Metal Reviews

Newest and Best Metal Reviews!
FAQ :: Search :: Members :: Groups :: Register
Login
It is currently Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:26 pm



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 65 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next   

Hit or miss : Megadeth - Cryptic Writings
Hit 50%  50%  [ 13 ]
Miss 50%  50%  [ 13 ]
Total votes : 26
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:56 am 
Offline
Einherjar

Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:10 am
Posts: 1763
Location: USA and Asia
Limp Bizkit is not, and never were, in any shape or form a Heavy Metal band so it is impossible they "hurt" metal.......off topic sorry.

On topic, I have said this a 1000x Load is a very good album. I like it better then And Justice and the Black Album because at least they tried and succeded to go another direction. Risk is horrible with Dave pretending he is in Matchbox 20 or something. Breadline..........shudders.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:29 am 
leee wrote:
Limp Bizkit is not, and never were, in any shape or form a Heavy Metal band so it is impossible they "hurt" metal.......off topic sorry.

I never said they were heavy metal. :rolleyes:


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:17 pm 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:04 am
Posts: 1212
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Off topic again....

Limp Bizkit are so fucking shit, that they cant even be considered good nu-metal. Fuck i hate that terrible band with a passion.

Kind of off topic...

I like the Load's too, but liking it for going in a new direction or whatever is fine, but nothing....NOTHING will ever be as awesomly fantastic as ...And Justice For All. Yes...even Puppets.

Back on topic....

No, thats pretty much it. I already said that I like Risk and I'm still sticking to that


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:08 pm 
Offline
Metal Lord
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am
Posts: 731
I agree about Load being better than the Black Album, and as much as I think Justice has several good songs damaged by hideous production values, I still find myself listening to it more than Load.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:07 pm 
derncare wrote:
I agree about Load being better than the Black Album, and as much as I think Justice has several good songs damaged by hideous production values, I still find myself listening to it more than Load.

I love Justice! I think it sounds awesome even with the lack of bass, the bottom end is still there. Who needs Newsted? =) And the drum tone is great! That's one of the best kick drum tones I've ever heard!


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:14 pm 
Offline
Metal Lord
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am
Posts: 731
I like that the kick drum is more audible than on previous releases, but the snare sounds like a kid's toy drum set, and the bottom end comes from horridly produced guitars, so I don't know if that's really a good thing or not :P

James himself has denounced Justice as one of the worst productions he's ever heard, so who am I to argue? Although, I think in a few years, he'll be saying that about St. Anger instead :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:58 pm 
derncare wrote:
I like that the kick drum is more audible than on previous releases, but the snare sounds like a kid's toy drum set, and the bottom end comes from horridly produced guitars, so I don't know if that's really a good thing or not :P

James himself has denounced Justice as one of the worst productions he's ever heard, so who am I to argue? Although, I think in a few years, he'll be saying that about St. Anger instead :lol:

Yeah, people seem to hate the production on Justice, but I like it. Sonically I think it kicks ass, especially when you crank it! =)


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:39 pm 
Offline
Metal Lord
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am
Posts: 731
On most systems I cranked it on, it made my speakers buzz :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:34 am 
Offline
Metal King
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:04 am
Posts: 1212
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Quote:
Yeah, people seem to hate the production on Justice, but I like it. Sonically I think it kicks ass, especially when you crank it! =)


I find no problems at all with the production. Its pretty much perfect IMO, and i love it. I just wish they recorded it louder so i can play it even louder than i do....and thats as loud as it gets


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:40 pm 
Offline
Ist Krieg
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:37 pm
Posts: 7932
Location: Glasgow
Metallica's dums have never been well produced, and Justice has the second worst example of it. Too damn clicky!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:51 pm 
Offline
Metal Lord
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am
Posts: 731
Example of a Justice drum track:

Click Clickety Cklickety Clack Clickety Clickety Clack Clack
Click Clickety Cklickety Clack Doomp Doomp Clickety Clack


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:40 pm 
Radagast wrote:
Metallica's dums have never been well produced, and Justice has the second worst example of it. Too damn clicky!

Clicky? No offense, I know a lot of people like to hate on Lars, but his drumming on Justice is some of the best, most technically sound drumming you'll ever hear on a metal album.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:18 pm 
Offline
Metal Lord
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am
Posts: 731
No, it isn't. People around at the time have even said he overdubbed alot of stuff on it, particularly the cymbals, and he's never properly recreated any of those songs live. Some songs like Dyer's Eve have never been played live because he admits he can't play it straight through.

And the drum production on that album has been noted as "clicky" by many a professional over the years, so it's not like people are just now saying it. They were one of the bands that started the bass = click style of metal drum mixing that completely eliminates what the bass drum is for in the first place.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:23 pm 
I have never heard any complaints about Lars until the Napster issue. Now it's cool to hate him.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:15 pm 
Offline
Metal Lord
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am
Posts: 731
I never disliked him as a person before the Napster issue, but I never cared much for him either. You notice that James was also highly involved in the Napster case, but he doesn't get as much hatred. Lars' attitude has always been a problem, but if you like the band, you can ignore it. Now that people aren't into the music either, he's under assault for things that were previously ignored by alot of fans because he's not under the old Metallica blanket of protection. For some it's just cool to hate him now, but that's not the case with everybody. I never buy genralizations like that because they come from one group while there's always other groups with different reasons for their ideas.

That being said, my friends and I were complaining about the mix on Justice 15 years ago. That isn't new. I had a progressive drummer friend who used to try and make us hate Metallica and used to point out all of the reasons in detail why Lars was never very good and why the drum mix on Justice was so terrible. We were just teenage metalheads then, so we didn't care as long as we liked the songs (which I still do like many of them), but when the speaker buzzed on a muted E5 because of the poor production values, we'd laugh about it even then.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:18 pm 
Offline
Karma Whore
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:24 pm
Posts: 3233
Location: America
Eyesore wrote:
I have never heard any complaints about Lars until the Napster issue. Now it's cool to hate him.


What the hell, he's not a very good drummer. That has nothing to do with whatever kind of person he is. He's just not a very good drummer. As far as the most techincally proficent drumming ever heard on a Metal album, you must have blocked Gene Hoglan's excellent work with Dark Angel and Strapping Young Lad out of your mind, and you've obviuosly never heard Matte Modine or King Fowley.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:35 pm 
Offline
Einherjar

Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:10 am
Posts: 1763
Location: USA and Asia
Eyesore wrote:
I have never heard any complaints about Lars until the Napster issue. Now it's cool to hate him.


ha ha, that is kinda true, I never knew Lars was such a shit drummer until I started reading it on the 'net.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:37 pm 
Offline
Einherjar

Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:10 am
Posts: 1763
Location: USA and Asia
Eternal Idol wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
I have never heard any complaints about Lars until the Napster issue. Now it's cool to hate him.


What the hell, he's not a very good drummer. That has nothing to do with whatever kind of person he is. He's just not a very good drummer. As far as the most techincally proficent drumming ever heard on a Metal album, you must have blocked Gene Hoglan's excellent work with Dark Angel and Strapping Young Lad out of your mind, and you've obviuosly never heard Matte Modine or King Fowley.


I have Deceasced albums and dig them a lot but why is Foley's drumming so great? I don't know, I don't have an ear for musical greatness anyways so things like that are lost on me. Lars was good enough for what he was doing when Metallica mattered.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:40 pm 
Offline
Einherjar

Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:10 am
Posts: 1763
Location: USA and Asia
Eternal Idol wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
I have never heard any complaints about Lars until the Napster issue. Now it's cool to hate him.


What the hell, he's not a very good drummer. That has nothing to do with whatever kind of person he is. He's just not a very good drummer. As far as the most techincally proficent drumming ever heard on a Metal album, you must have blocked Gene Hoglan's excellent work with Dark Angel and Strapping Young Lad out of your mind, and you've obviuosly never heard Matte Modine or King Fowley.


I have Deceasced albums and dig them a lot but why is Foley's drumming so great? I don't know, I don't have an ear for musical greatness anyways so things like that are lost on me. Lars was good enough for what he was doing when Metallica mattered.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:48 pm 
Offline
Metal Lord
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:40 am
Posts: 731
Isn't it funny how no Megadeth discussion can avoid Metallica? :lol:

Honestly, I think Lars was good for what he did, and I do believe he reached his "creative" peak with Justice, but to me, it seems that was all he had technically and artistically unloaded everything he had in that album. St. Anger just proves what Jason said about Lars not practicing for years and losing the art.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 65 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next   


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group