The Football thread

rio · **Posted:** Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:51 pm

Kathaarian wrote:

Azrael wrote:

rio - Chelsea's transfers don't even come close to Real Madrids, besides, they already had Abramovich's money before, but it took Mourinho to finally get some titles.

though, it's true about the diving and the whining. the diving was probably Mourinho's influence from his days in FC Porto.

Yes, and besides Man Utd has been the richest club for so many years but still they went down, and Real Madrid too. It's all about Mourinho.

Indeed, but when United were the richest club they built a great team around a core of players that had been at the club all their playing lives (Beckham, Scholes, Neville, Giggs etc). Chelsea have done nothing but throw money at players and a manager. That's why their time at the top will not be long, and it's why the team they've built couldn't compete with the best Arsenal or United teams of recent years. The reason they're dominant right now is because Arsenal have fallen apart, and United have lost their best players.

Arsenal are the future of English football. A solid core of young players that are only going to get better and better.

Azrael · **Posted:** Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:04 pm

how many Arsenal players were "born and bred" there? they may be young, but most of them aren't english or trained at Arsenal.

rio · **Posted:** Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:14 pm

Azrael wrote:

how many Arsenal players were "born and bred" there? they may be young, but most of them aren't english or trained at Arsenal.

No, but they've all arrived there earlier in their career, and hopefully will remain.

It's different from United, where all their players came up through their own youth system. But still it's a young team that will hopefully remain together and progress.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:12 pm

rio wrote:

Azrael wrote:

how many Arsenal players were "born and bred" there? they may be young, but most of them aren't english or trained at Arsenal.

No, but they've all arrived there earlier in their career, and hopefully will remain.

It's different from United, where all their players came up through their own youth system. But still it's a young team that will hopefully remain together and progress.

Arsenal does have a lot of good young players but now that Henry is going I don't think Arsenal will be able to fill his position and will probably be worse next year without him. The future seems bright though.

stuartn15ted · **Posted:** Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:30 pm

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! ROONEY AND OWEN!!!!! GOD, YOU BASTARD!!!!!!

I'm so fucking gutted!

rio · **Posted:** Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:35 pm

stuartn15ted wrote:

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! ROONEY AND OWEN!!!!! GOD, YOU BASTARD!!!!!!

I'm so fucking gutted!

Yep. For England the World Cup is over before it has begun. Now our first choice striking partnership is Peter Crouch and what's-his-name Bent.

Azrael · **Posted:** Mon May 01, 2006 12:35 am

what about Darius Vassel? he's decent..

Portugal's has a grand total of 0 (zero) really good strikers, didn't stop us from doing fairly well. out star-studded midfield usually solves the problem.

and Rooney, if i'm not mistaken, will only be out 6 weeks, isn't that just enough to still be able to make the world cup?

rio · **Posted:** Mon May 01, 2006 1:11 am

Azrael wrote:

what about Darius Vassel? he's decent..

Portugal's has a grand total of 0 (zero) really good strikers, didn't stop us from doing fairly well. out star-studded midfield usually solves the problem.

and Rooney, if i'm not mistaken, will only be out 6 weeks, isn't that just enough to still be able to make the world cup?

It'll be touch and go, but he should be back by the first knock out round if all goes according to plan- maybe even sooner. The problem will be his lack of fitness and match practice. England and Portugal play in different ways, I think. We are totally reliant on having at least one powerful and dangerous striker.

Vassell hasn't played for England since he missed that penalty in Euro 2004, I don't think. I don't know what's happend to him- he just dropped right off the radar. But he was never a world class player- which Rooney and Owen both are.

Radagast · **Posted:** Tue May 02, 2006 12:04 pm

rio wrote:

Fuck Chelsea. Anyone could win the league with that amount of money behind them.

As a Blackburn fan, it is my duty to tell you that is nonsense. Wouldn't Chelsea have won the title under Ranieri when he spent £100m in his final season?

rio · **Posted:** Tue May 02, 2006 1:46 pm

Radagast wrote:

rio wrote:

Fuck Chelsea. Anyone could win the league with that amount of money behind them.

As a Blackburn fan, it is my duty to tell you that is nonsense. Wouldn't Chelsea have won the title under Ranieri when he spent £100m in his final season?

You're a Blackburn fan?

I admit I was guilty of exaggerating. My retort is to dismiss Ranieri as a big lame-o

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The reason Chelsea have the success they do is because some corrupt oligarch pointed at them and said "I want that one". So then he just threw money at them until they eventually started to function well.

At least when Manchester United ruled the world they made all their money as a result of their success, not as the prerequisite to it.

Azrael · **Posted:** Tue May 02, 2006 2:13 pm

surely having the guy who owns Sky backing the club also helps...

rio · **Posted:** Tue May 02, 2006 2:15 pm

I just hate all rich and successful football clubs except for Arsenal.

Radagast · **Posted:** Tue May 02, 2006 2:21 pm

rio wrote:

Radagast wrote:

rio wrote:

Fuck Chelsea. Anyone could win the league with that amount of money behind them.

As a Blackburn fan, it is my duty to tell you that is nonsense. Wouldn't Chelsea have won the title under Ranieri when he spent £100m in his final season?

You're a Blackburn fan?

Indeed. 8) Rangers+Rovers = winning combination. Although the two never seem to have a simultaneously succesful season. :?

Azrael · **Posted:** Tue May 02, 2006 2:35 pm

rio wrote:

I just hate all rich and successful football clubs except for Arsenal.

Fingon · **Joined:** Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:11 pm **Posts:** 3207

anyone seen the womans Cup final of England(Arsenal-Leeds)? 't was impressing!

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Wed May 03, 2006 9:55 pm

Barcelona are the champions! Holllelleeeyyy!!!

Azrael · **Posted:** Wed May 03, 2006 9:56 pm

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!

first Scolari denies any move to England, and then the Portuguese FA president announces plans to extend his contract.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK! SCOLARI IS AN INCOMPETENT, STUBBORN AND STUPID PIECE OF SHIT WHO REFUSES TO REMOVE HIS HOLY COWS FROM THE TEAM NO MATTER HOW BADLY THEY PLAY!!

FUCK SCOLARI AND FUCK PAULETA AND COSTINHA AND ALL THE OTHER COCKSUCKERS WHO DON'T DESERVE TO WEAR THE PORTUGUESE SHIRT!

Radagast · **Posted:** Thu May 04, 2006 9:46 am

Bastard Hearts beating Rangers to the bastard Champions Legaue spot thanks to bastard Celtic lying down and playing to lose on bastard Sunday. :x

In other news: Blackburn 1-0 Chelsea. UEFA Cup for Rovers.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Thu May 04, 2006 12:06 pm

Tugay ist krieg.

rio · **Posted:** Thu May 04, 2006 4:05 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIUp19bBoA

roflpops.

The blonde guy is Boris Johnson, Britains comedy MP.

edit: what in gods name he's doing on a football pitch I can only imagine.

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