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Not seen those films you mention. I like Asian films in that vein, but recently my watching habits have tended towards Italian horror films- Argento, Fulci etc. Just picked up the latter's "A Cat in the Brain" 8)


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liked it. 7,5/10


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that's a nice movie, but the size of the book meant some bits had to be skipped.

that's gonna suck now too, many bits will have to be skipped in future movies unless they go all LoTR on you :/

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Not seen those films you mention. I like Asian films in that vein, but recently my watching habits have tended towards Italian horror films- Argento, Fulci etc. Just picked up the latter's "A Cat in the Brain" 8)


Yeah I don't like Argento or Italian fims in general. Suspira is ok, but the rest bore me. But he certainly knows cinematography and Goblin rule for a soundtrack.


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The People VS. Larry Flynt

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Freddy Got Fingered

Two movies that seem strangely related to me. Both classic for different reasons.


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Not seen those films you mention. I like Asian films in that vein, but recently my watching habits have tended towards Italian horror films- Argento, Fulci etc. Just picked up the latter's "A Cat in the Brain" 8)


Yeah I don't like Argento or Italian fims in general. Suspira is ok, but the rest bore me. But he certainly knows cinematography and Goblin rule for a soundtrack.


Hmm, IMO Suspiria is the greatest of all horror films.

Watched recently: Dario's Sleepless. It was pretty cool, but not one of his best. Brutal, but will need another watch or so before it sinks in. I was pretty tired when I watched it.


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American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?


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following the reaper wrote:
American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?

Worst ending ever.


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Radagast wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?

Worst ending ever.


I haven't seen the movie but in the book he says "this is all a dream anyway". And after Pat kills Paul Owen (or is it Allen?) somebody tells him he saw Paul in London.

There are many hints like this, it is kind of confusing and not clear, but I think I'm sure he doesn't actually kill anyone.


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following the reaper wrote:
American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?


That is the major what if between people that love to discuss the book, the movie makes it in that favor, the book not as much at times. I think that is the point, to amke you wonder. Have you read the book?


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Bought this today for ten bucks. Very cool movie.


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Kathaarian wrote:
Radagast wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?

Worst ending ever.


I haven't seen the movie but in the book he says "this is all a dream anyway". And after Pat kills Paul Owen (or is it Allen?) somebody tells him he saw Paul in London.

There are many hints like this, it is kind of confusing and not clear, but I think I'm sure he doesn't actually kill anyone.


I don't agree at all Man.

Paul in London is the same as nobody ever knowing Bateman and always calling him different names. Hell even after the confession he gave on the phone, the guy he gave it to didn't even know Bateman was talking to him. Is all just Satire on image.

He knows it isn't a dream, but is just like a dream because he is outside himself when doing all of this with brief flashes of being sane.

The movie tough does really push that point big time though I think to take the edge off of what is really sick and fucked up.

A lot of people think the sex is dillusional too but all is real I think just with Batemans already fucked mind make it surreal.


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leee wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
Radagast wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?

Worst ending ever.


I haven't seen the movie but in the book he says "this is all a dream anyway". And after Pat kills Paul Owen (or is it Allen?) somebody tells him he saw Paul in London.

There are many hints like this, it is kind of confusing and not clear, but I think I'm sure he doesn't actually kill anyone.


I don't agree at all Man.

Paul in London is the same as nobody ever knowing Bateman and always calling him different names. Hell even after the confession he gave on the phone, the guy he gave it to didn't even know Bateman was talking to him. Is all just Satire on image.

He knows it isn't a dream, but is just like a dream because he is outside himself when doing all of this with brief flashes of being sane.

The movie tough does really push that point big time though I think to take the edge off of what is really sick and fucked up.

A lot of people think the sex is dillusional too but all is real I think just with Batemans already fucked mind make it surreal.


But the Paul Owen thing is only one example of this, there are plenty others which show that he might be dreaming all this. I'm saying "might be" because the writer dude says it's up to the reader to decide what to interpret from the book.

I say he didn't do them because he despises fags, but doesn't kill Luis Carruthers, and also doesn't kill his secretary and Evelyn because he knows they love him. Is that what an insane murderer would do? Kill everyone he sees but not who loves him? I don't think so. Plus he never gets caught, they don't recognize blood all over him is real at the party he goes to, the chinese dry cleaners keep cleaning his blood soaked suits and whatnot. Somebody has to recognize something. That's why I think he's dreaming them.


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Over the Top. A movie about a man trying to reconnect to the son he abandoned, while on a cross-country truck driving trip.

But that's not important, for it's really all about winning arm wrestling contests, and going OVER THE TOP!!!!!!!!!!!


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Kathaarian wrote:
leee wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
Radagast wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?

Worst ending ever.


I haven't seen the movie but in the book he says "this is all a dream anyway". And after Pat kills Paul Owen (or is it Allen?) somebody tells him he saw Paul in London.

There are many hints like this, it is kind of confusing and not clear, but I think I'm sure he doesn't actually kill anyone.


I don't agree at all Man.

Paul in London is the same as nobody ever knowing Bateman and always calling him different names. Hell even after the confession he gave on the phone, the guy he gave it to didn't even know Bateman was talking to him. Is all just Satire on image.

He knows it isn't a dream, but is just like a dream because he is outside himself when doing all of this with brief flashes of being sane.

The movie tough does really push that point big time though I think to take the edge off of what is really sick and fucked up.

A lot of people think the sex is dillusional too but all is real I think just with Batemans already fucked mind make it surreal.


But the Paul Owen thing is only one example of this, there are plenty others which show that he might be dreaming all this. I'm saying "might be" because the writer dude says it's up to the reader to decide what to interpret from the book.

I say he didn't do them because he despises fags, but doesn't kill Luis Carruthers, and also doesn't kill his secretary and Evelyn because he knows they love him. Is that what an insane murderer would do? Kill everyone he sees but not who loves him? I don't think so. Plus he never gets caught, they don't recognize blood all over him is real at the party he goes to, the chinese dry cleaners keep cleaning his blood soaked suits and whatnot. Somebody has to recognize something. That's why I think he's dreaming them.



Simple. Bateman is insane, and his fantasies have overtaken his reality. To him, the stuff going on in his mind is real, but it's really all in his mind.


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Kathaarian wrote:
leee wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
Radagast wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
American Psycho. It was good, but im confused. Did he kill anyone at all? :?

Worst ending ever.


I haven't seen the movie but in the book he says "this is all a dream anyway". And after Pat kills Paul Owen (or is it Allen?) somebody tells him he saw Paul in London.

There are many hints like this, it is kind of confusing and not clear, but I think I'm sure he doesn't actually kill anyone.


I don't agree at all Man.

Paul in London is the same as nobody ever knowing Bateman and always calling him different names. Hell even after the confession he gave on the phone, the guy he gave it to didn't even know Bateman was talking to him. Is all just Satire on image.

He knows it isn't a dream, but is just like a dream because he is outside himself when doing all of this with brief flashes of being sane.

The movie tough does really push that point big time though I think to take the edge off of what is really sick and fucked up.

A lot of people think the sex is dillusional too but all is real I think just with Batemans already fucked mind make it surreal.


But the Paul Owen thing is only one example of this, there are plenty others which show that he might be dreaming all this. I'm saying "might be" because the writer dude says it's up to the reader to decide what to interpret from the book.

I say he didn't do them because he despises fags, but doesn't kill Luis Carruthers, and also doesn't kill his secretary and Evelyn because he knows they love him. Is that what an insane murderer would do? Kill everyone he sees but not who loves him? I don't think so. Plus he never gets caught, they don't recognize blood all over him is real at the party he goes to, the chinese dry cleaners keep cleaning his blood soaked suits and whatnot. Somebody has to recognize something. That's why I think he's dreaming them.


I think it makes more the point that basically nobody gave a shit he was a mass murderer or cared to pay attention as long as they were making money and having fun. Living the dream.

Janette he loved, but he was also fucked up enough to make her get an abortion and send her a bunch of baby shit too before he went to Aspen.

He destroyed that other chick he dated before and he still loved her but couldn't take she was dating the chef and the one resturaunt he couldn't get into.

Anyways, it is a cool book and cool because can interpet it so many different ways. I have read it like 3 or 4 times and get more and more out ofit. Although I like Less then Zero and Rules of Attraction better.


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Well, in the movie he fucks the two hookers, but then goes to sleep and wakes up and cuts them. That says to me that the second part of his interaction with the girls is a dream.

And he says, whats inside doesnt matter - as in, what he's like inside is sick, but its irrelevant, as his lawyer didnt even know who he was, and said Bateman was a dork. So all that matters is appearance.


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Well, in the movie he fucks the two hookers, but then goes to sleep and wakes up and cuts them. That says to me that the second part of his interaction with the girls is a dream.

And he says, whats inside doesnt matter - as in, what he's like inside is sick, but its irrelevant, as his lawyer didnt even know who he was, and said Bateman was a dork. So all that matters is appearance.


Book is the same. He fucks them, then wakes up, still hard, goes to the closet, brings out a coat hanger, etc and clears his throat and says "We aren't done yet" He didn't kill them that time in the book (left them paid well, but sore, crying and a black eye), but the second time..........

sounds like the movie spliced togather different chapters of the book to give it a dream quality. In the book it starts out slow and the rage and loss of control builds into mayhem which makes it more believable...

...This is not an exit.......

....How about the cop? A figment of his imagination?

....I guess we need to start a topic just for AP discussion...

I guess i need to re-watch the movie and not be shit faced and pass out from boredom because I thought the book was so much better. At least not the travesty the movie Less then Zero is vs the book or at least what I remember.

Anyone seen the rules of Attraction, the movie?


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