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funny ! in the Hard Core scene Trivium are considered to be a metal band... in the metal scene they're considered Hard Core (well, metalcore)...

same goes with Mastodon I bet.... :roll:

Based on the review the score seems kinda low unless you're penalizing them VERY severly for the vocal flaws!

Vocal flaws, uncecessary hardcore elements, average song structure and a few filler tracks.

Only track I've heard is 'Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr', and if that is one of the better tracks, whole album must be pretty shit. Might check out 'Ember To Inferno', though, anyone taken the plunge?

I would disagree with all of you... I recently got this album in a second-hand record store.... glad I didn't listen to you guys !
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so what have we here ? METAL ! it mixes elements of thrash, classic heavy, nu & metalcore (metal being the main thing here) and does it pretty well...

the songs are good, guitar work is way above average, the rythm section is pretty good too and, honestly, I don't hear any huge vocal flaw except if you consider putting Nu & Hardcore elements in the vocals is a flaw... which I don't

Trivium is a good, honest hard working band and Ascendancy is a reflection of that... I'll give it 85/100 (as Ember to Inferno was a bit better, 90/100 for me)... :twisted:

I think what most people ( me esp.) dislike about it is the hardcore vocals and the repetetive bits. Is 'Ascendancy' like that all the way through or is there more variation? And the fact that they are getting a big advertising push in the magz at the moment doesn't help their undergorund image.
They are quite skillful, I'll concede that.

vocals are a mix of Nu melodic (think melodic parts in Killswitch Engage), Hard core shouting (not the best I've heard but okay) & classic metal growls (ie early In Flames/At The Gates)...

the music is like 75% metal (combining thrash & heavy), 20% Metalcore (the groove of it) & 5% Nu (not too much, just to spice it up a bit)

of the 12 songs (track 1 being a very nice metal intro), I find 8 to be very nice, 3 to be okay & 1 quite shitty (Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr is indeed the weakest track on it)...

so that makes a good album for me... (I listened to it about 5 times now...)

Maybe I'll try it after all. 'Ember To Inferno' is better, you say?

yeah, that's what I said.. though, this new album is growing on me.... but Ember to Inferno is a solid effort...

I really like this album personally. I know Metalreview.com gave it all 6's (which is perfect for those of you who have never been there).

I don't know how much you should penalize a band for "uncecessary hardcore elements". That seems more like a personal distaste than a flaw to me.

Trivium is a very young and talented band, as stated in Jay’s well-written review. On a few tracks, namely Dying In Your Arms, the vocals do have an “emoish” undertone, which may turn off some metal or metalcore listeners. Personally, I do not necessarily favor one ‘genre’ over the other because I believe that a genre is just a way to categorize bands with similar sounds, while it is difficult to label all of their musical influences or elements on each of their albums or songs. Trivium is one of the bands that I see for their music, rather than pick out their ‘unnecessary’ elements because they may be labeled ‘hardcore.’ Some may find it hard to see past, but if Trivium did not borrow hardcore elements or adopt some emo or whining clean vocals, the band could end up sounding painfully akin to the other musicians out there.

Because of what you said here...


...Trivium have done exactly what you suggested they avoided here.

Trivium are nothing original! They play well, but if had to buy one CD, a Trivium CD or any of the million other metalcore bands out there, the deciding factor would be "which is cheaper?" They're nothing special, and vocally (the screaming) they're pretty bad.

Yeah, the vocals are awful. Completely awful.

Excellent drumming and good (if repetitive) lead playing does not good songs make.

Have you seen the drummer? Scary. And yeah, shitty vocals.

Are any of you singers? Have any of you had a cold and tried to scream? That's what the guy from Trivium sounds like! It's like he has a cold or something.

Well, when I try to growl I just end up coughing a lot. And I only scream when I hurt myself. So, give credit where it's due, he can at least shout in a vaguely growly manner.

Ember To Inferno was cool, but this album is just too 'corey for me.

He just has more "yelling" in his screaming than most.

The vocals are crap and the music is mediocre.

My 14 year old brother sound better on vocals than this jerk.