Metal Reviews

I'm still pissed that although Bush went after Iraq and is threatening Iran, he doesn't give a shit about NKorea, whom we know have "nucular" weapons.

Seriously, shut up. That little cherry bomb that North Korea tested was a failure, and they are far from having a functional Nuke. Also if you paid attention to anything, Japan and China both stood up and told Kim Jong to cut the shit. There was no need for U.S .intervention, I'm sure those two can handle it on their own. The last thing North Korea wants is to raise China's ire.

Good point, people on here should read up on what the Allied forces under Churchill and FDR did to Dresden when the war was clearly lost. It was much worse then the Atomic bombs in Japan IMO if you really read up on it.

That said, they probably deserved it.

Rape of Nanking? Still, no excuse.

Actually that wouldn't be so bad. Althought the last 50 years or so of Chinese history have been majorly fucked (to say the least), contemporary China seems to really be getting its shit together. The industrial side of it is still pretty scary especially if you are a miner, but they seem to be cramming in their version of our 300 year industrial progress into 20 years. And bear in mind that "modern" China has never made a militarily aggressive move outside of its borders (Tibet being part of the percieved border).

Once China is up to speed, living in a Confucianist super power seems a lot more attractive than the gimme gimme gimme bullshit of our decadent western culture. One that would rather work things out than blow shit up.

Not just dresden but every major german city got fire bombed, which is just as bad initialy as the Abombs were. (not counting countless others who died from radiation disease). The cities were sweeped by fire , killign way more innocent than the battle of britain ever did. But you hear about the terrible night raids on London that started some fires. And the terrible V weapons that killed up to a thousand people.
The number of civilians that died from allied assaults is incredible by comparison. Not to mention they left the country shattered too the stone age, and then gave half of it to Stalin to further torment.

All of the leaders durring WW2 deserveddeath. Because, for the first time in history, it meant more to destroy a countries very fabric and incinerate the population. The holocaust, shoudkl just be the name of that war because several million jews may have died ( i don't know the number) But at the very least double that number of civilians died through bombing and starvation.


I view the pacific theater to be a totaly different war in this case though. Since we were the only nation in both theaters. i amnot knowledgable enoguh to really address it.

The USA dropped the nukes on Japan when it knew that it was considering surrender. Other bombings you mentioned were during war, and whilst I'm not saying that bombing is ok, nuking civilians is cold blood is worse.

And surely the USA wasn't the only one fighting in both east and west? England, Australia, Canada...?

Yes, Britain and our then empire were heavily involved in the Pacific as well.

But WW2 is indeed tragically notable for taking the deliberate targeting of civillians up several levels.

idk, i thought australia only fought in the pacific, england after the prolonged conlfict with germany , i don't see how they could have fought in the pacific campaign. I have no idea whether or not canada was in the pacific.

Idk, i never really got why it was all called ww2, other than it was happening simultaneuosly. I know japan had a loose wierd alliance of sorts with Germany, but niether helped eachother, or really played a role i the others affairs. I just stands as two disticntly different conflicts to me

The weapons that are used don't really matter to me. Its the amount of destruction, Whether its a thousand conventional weaons or two atomic. I would say that civilians are equally cold bloodedly murdered, no matter what the government is considering, when you unleashe mass destruction on the population.

Well, I'm no expert either...

Personally, nuclear weapons horrify me in a way no normal bombs do. There's a big debate here at the moment over the gov' renewing its fleet of nuclear submarines, which will cost lots and be pretty useless. Sure, civilians get killed either way, but nuclear bombs are scarier...

Australia fought pretty much wherever Britain did.

you either approve or disapprove of the death penalty... there can't be half measures on that concern...

I totally disapprove even if it's Saddam. death penalty is simply barbaric whoever the person.

Yeah, come on, Charles. No moral slips allowed!

you know very well that people like Saddam simply cannot redeem themselves. to have them sitting around talking to the press and saying shit only helps them further fuel their followers.

killers and rapists and criminals in general should do forced labour, but genocidal dictators like Saddam have no place on this earth. it's a very extreme case of course, and it takes extreme measures.

Iraq is fucked, pure and simple. It makes no difference whether Saddam's alive or dead, the followers would still fight either way.

consequences aside, do you think people like him deserve to keep on living?

EDIT: early runner for the 2007 darwin awards?

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/international ... 57,00.html

also, his uncle is an idiot. "oh, i didn't think he thought it was real" WELL IT'S YOUR JOB OR HIS PARENTS' TO EITHER MAKE SURE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT SOMEONE JUST DIED OR TO KEEP HIM FROM WATCHING THAT SHIT

GOD DAMMIT PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING STUPID THESE DAYS I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A TUMOR GROWING IN MY BRAIN EVERYTIME I SEE THEM ACTING AND TALKING LIKE THIS

edit 2 - now i wish the kid had seen someone "pretend to kill" his family so, you know, he'd kill is stupid family. idiots.

lol yes I guess you are right

The death penalty is barbaric...just like viking metal

actually... by now 3 kids have hanged themselves... two boys (one of them is the one you just posted) who wanted to try it out without knowing the consequence and a 15-year-old girl in India who got depressed about Hussain getting hanged.


but i don't blame the small kids.. when i was 7 years or so i watched fotages of the golf war showing dead Iraqis, skulls etc... i didn't understood what it meant, i though it was cool and funny. I don't think i understood the concept of death by then, even when my mother told me that all ppl die sooner or later when i was about that age, i laughted, cuz that seemed rather silly back then. I though i had all the time in the world, cuz i though i was going to live forever.... so... it's probably a good thing i didn't watch Sadam getting hanged back then