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Ive just watched "Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma", the most disturbing film ive ever seen, that whole "circle of shit" part its so fucking disgusting, i felt like i was going to puke, that friggin Pasolini was mad as a cow.
is that movie worth watching?

i've heard of it before but no one i've talked to has seen it. it's generally thrown out in 'most disturbing movie' threads but usually no one has seen it.


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Ive just watched "Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma", the most disturbing film ive ever seen, that whole "circle of shit" part its so fucking disgusting, i felt like i was going to puke, that friggin Pasolini was mad as a cow.
is that movie worth watching?

i've heard of it before but no one i've talked to has seen it. it's generally thrown out in 'most disturbing movie' threads but usually no one has seen it.


It is explotation masquerading as art. Actually I found it rather boring for super long streches and not that "shocking" or anything. Hardy the most disturbing film ever. Hell vito jr took a shit on the Sopranos last week.

But yeah if you have a weak stomach for corprophilla fast forward during that one part.

I have a copy on some DVD I bought in China called "10 most shocking/band movies ever". If you can find it cheap/used or downloaded watch it. Don't pay stupid prices for on ebay, etc, it isn't worth it. In reality without the "art" pretences it isn't any more extreme then stuff like Sadomania from Franco.....


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I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...


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I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...
What the hell is up with that movie? It always gets mentioned as one of the goriest, most terrifying movies ever. Is it really that bad? Is it actually a movie, or a series of gruesome image after grusome image?


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The Ring (japanese version)


wow :blink: .. this is one of the worst movies i have ever seen :lame:

i do admit, however, horror movies is not my thing and i did pay an awful lot of attention to the oh-so-scary ambient background music/noice. I did get excited once around the beginning, though, but after that i just got too damn bored and frustrated with the cheasy scritp. Why this movie got so much attention is beyond me.


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The Ring (japanese version)


wow :blink: .. this is one of the worst movies i have ever seen :lame:

i do admit, however, horror movies is not my thing and i did pay an awful lot of attention to the oh-so-scary ambient background music/noice. I did get excited once around the beginning, though, but after that i just got too damn bored and frustrated with the cheasy scritp. Why this movie got so much attention is beyond me.


Because it deviated in style from the others that were comign out up untill it. movies rippign on i know what you did last summer and scream were still ridding out there resurgance when this appeared. As opposed to shitty slasher movies this was a creative and different looking film.
It has enough creep factor but is in no way hard to understand = teenage glue sniffers can love it.

I don't like it at all but it makes sense that it made waves


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Pan's Labyrinth was fantastic.

Q: I saw the movie at a really crappy theater so I was wondering was the movie very dark? I could barely see the Captain bludgeon the guy's face and I was wondering if that was just because it was so dark or if it was meant to be like that.

Nah, it was pretty obscured. Still made me wince like heck, though. Poor face. :sad:

Fracture. Pretty good, but very standard. Funny though. "My dick's good." :lol: What is it about Ryan Gosling? I can recognise that he is a fine actor, yet he still strikes me as a smug, annoying bastard. Hmmm.

Brahm, for a man who thought Spider Man was ok for what it was, and Spider Man 2 was a nonsensical clusterfuck of a bunch of stupid shit happening for no reason tied together with the most lolzable dialogue of all time, how will 3 go for me?


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Brahm, for a man who thought Spider Man was ok for what it was, and Spider Man 2 was a nonsensical clusterfuck of a bunch of stupid shit happening for no reason tied together with the most lolzable dialogue of all time, how will 3 go for me?


I too think Spiderman 1 was only okay (basically, I liked the movie until the Green Goblin started getting screentime and the dialogue got more horrible). Spiderman 2 I too thought was okay... But I quite liked the third one. Now, there's still some horribly written dialogue, and at times the sentimentality gets to be too much. However, countering that is a much needed sense of humour, some good villains (as opposed to Goblin, who was done horribly, and Octopus who was in the movie for all of 10 minutes)- plus its fun to see Peter finally act like a dick. Its not an amazing movie, but I think you might enjoy it, as I did.


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Misha wrote:
I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...
What the hell is up with that movie? It always gets mentioned as one of the goriest, most terrifying movies ever. Is it really that bad? Is it actually a movie, or a series of gruesome image after grusome image?

Cannibal Holocaust is a protest on the mundo genre, while actually being a mundo film. In case you didn't know, a mundo film is a film shot in conflict areas by which the footage of real people dying is used to make a movie. Mundo is said only to portray the truth, yet mundo film makes weren't too scared to pay people to execute others, or to do things themselves to make the footage some more interesting. These movies often use disgusting animal torture as a method to add realism. Cannibal Holocaust portays the story of Mundo film makers, who were lost in the jungle when making a film about cannibals. Their rescuers came too late, but their footage has been found. The movie begins with the rescue crew and their journey, thereafter comes the prime character's attempt to convince the company that wants to make some money on the tapes not to sell them, by showing the uncut tapes. The tapes show that the mundo film makers are actually the monsters, and not the cannibals. Although no bushmen were hurt in this film (they are all actors), it is quite ironic that a handful of animals has come to a very unpleasant end in Cannibal Holocaust. There is also some footage from "other" mundo films used in the movie, that shows real people dying. The Cannibal Holocaust moviemakers stain their own hands in their protest towards mundo filmmakers.

I never saw any other mundo film by the way, maybe someone else knows more about the the genre...
If you've seen The Blair Witch Project, the footage from the mundo filmmakers that went into the jungle in Cannibal Holocaust is shot in the same way, but in contradiction to The Blair Witch Project, which is inspired by Cannibal Holocaust, A LOT of gruesome stuff happens.


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Brahm, for a man who thought Spider Man was ok for what it was, and Spider Man 2 was a nonsensical clusterfuck of a bunch of stupid shit happening for no reason tied together with the most lolzable dialogue of all time, how will 3 go for me?


I too think Spiderman 1 was only okay (basically, I liked the movie until the Green Goblin started getting screentime and the dialogue got more horrible). Spiderman 2 I too thought was okay... But I quite liked the third one. Now, there's still some horribly written dialogue, and at times the sentimentality gets to be too much. However, countering that is a much needed sense of humour, some good villains (as opposed to Goblin, who was done horribly, and Octopus who was in the movie for all of 10 minutes)- plus its fun to see Peter finally act like a dick. Its not an amazing movie, but I think you might enjoy it, as I did.

Yeah I enjoyed the first too until Willem Defoe put on his Power Rangers costume and starting finding a lot of stuff funny.

Same with the second one. Everything was actually going well until
"and for this highly unpredictable and potentially dangerous experiment which I will be "conducting in a studio apartment surrounded by innocent bystanders rather than the more traditional sealed lab complex I will be grafting artificially intelligent arms onto my spine, but don't worry, as I have this tiny little unprotected inhibitor chip that will prevent them from sending me mad....
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....ow! My inhibitor chip! Shit! This unguarded ball of fusion is proving dangerous to the unshielded humans! Oh well, time to go apeshit."


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but in contradiction to The Blair Witch Project, which is inspired by Cannibal Holocaust, A LOT of gruesome stuff happens.

Penis trauma. :sad:


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Misha wrote:
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Misha wrote:
I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...
What the hell is up with that movie? It always gets mentioned as one of the goriest, most terrifying movies ever. Is it really that bad? Is it actually a movie, or a series of gruesome image after grusome image?

Cannibal Holocaust is a protest on the mundo genre, while actually being a mundo film. In case you didn't know, a mundo film is a film shot in conflict areas by which the footage of real people dying is used to make a movie. Mundo is said only to portray the truth, yet mundo film makes weren't too scared to pay people to execute others, or to do things themselves to make the footage some more interesting. These movies often use disgusting animal torture as a method to add realism. Cannibal Holocaust portays the story of Mundo film makers, who were lost in the jungle when making a film about cannibals. Their rescuers came too late, but their footage has been found. The movie begins with the rescue crew and their journey, thereafter comes the prime character's attempt to convince the company that wants to make some money on the tapes not to sell them, by showing the uncut tapes. The tapes show that the mundo film makers are actually the monsters, and not the cannibals. Although no bushmen were hurt in this film (they are all actors), it is quite ironic that a handful of animals has come to a very unpleasant end in Cannibal Holocaust. There is also some footage from "other" mundo films used in the movie, that shows real people dying. The Cannibal Holocaust moviemakers stain their own hands in their protest towards mundo filmmakers.

I never saw any other mundo film by the way, maybe someone else knows more about the the genre...
If you've seen The Blair Witch Project, the footage from the mundo filmmakers that went into the jungle in Cannibal Holocaust is shot in the same way, but in contradiction to The Blair Witch Project, which is inspired by Cannibal Holocaust, A LOT of gruesome stuff happens.
Hmm...is there a difference between a mundo film and a snuff film? They sound pretty similar.


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Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:
Misha wrote:
I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...
What the hell is up with that movie? It always gets mentioned as one of the goriest, most terrifying movies ever. Is it really that bad? Is it actually a movie, or a series of gruesome image after grusome image?


It is a movie. Influenced a lot by Last House on the Left. It is also filmed as psuedo documentary but isn't one. Very good, influential movie IMO. You have to remember though that it was made in 80 so it might not seem that shocking these days. Stay away from Cannibal Ferox though, it is a pale imitation.


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Misha wrote:
Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:
Misha wrote:
I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...
What the hell is up with that movie? It always gets mentioned as one of the goriest, most terrifying movies ever. Is it really that bad? Is it actually a movie, or a series of gruesome image after grusome image?

Cannibal Holocaust is a protest on the mundo genre, while actually being a mundo film. In case you didn't know, a mundo film is a film shot in conflict areas by which the footage of real people dying is used to make a movie. Mundo is said only to portray the truth, yet mundo film makes weren't too scared to pay people to execute others, or to do things themselves to make the footage some more interesting. These movies often use disgusting animal torture as a method to add realism. Cannibal Holocaust portays the story of Mundo film makers, who were lost in the jungle when making a film about cannibals. Their rescuers came too late, but their footage has been found. The movie begins with the rescue crew and their journey, thereafter comes the prime character's attempt to convince the company that wants to make some money on the tapes not to sell them, by showing the uncut tapes. The tapes show that the mundo film makers are actually the monsters, and not the cannibals. Although no bushmen were hurt in this film (they are all actors), it is quite ironic that a handful of animals has come to a very unpleasant end in Cannibal Holocaust. There is also some footage from "other" mundo films used in the movie, that shows real people dying. The Cannibal Holocaust moviemakers stain their own hands in their protest towards mundo filmmakers.

I never saw any other mundo film by the way, maybe someone else knows more about the the genre...
If you've seen The Blair Witch Project, the footage from the mundo filmmakers that went into the jungle in Cannibal Holocaust is shot in the same way, but in contradiction to The Blair Witch Project, which is inspired by Cannibal Holocaust, A LOT of gruesome stuff happens.


I have jsut seen stuff like Faces of Death and Mondo Asia, Shocking Asia etc. They were almost all faked films (like the Monkey stuff in Faces of Death). The animal stuff in CH is real though and dude was arrested for making the film and had to bring in the actors to prove they were not really killed.

Nice analogy of the film btw once I read it all. I highly recommend getting the Grindhouse special addition.


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The Ring (japanese version)


wow :blink: .. this is one of the worst movies i have ever seen :lame:

i do admit, however, horror movies is not my thing and i did pay an awful lot of attention to the oh-so-scary ambient background music/noice. I did get excited once around the beginning, though, but after that i just got too damn bored and frustrated with the cheasy scritp. Why this movie got so much attention is beyond me.


Because it deviated in style from the others that were comign out up untill it. movies rippign on i know what you did last summer and scream were still ridding out there resurgance when this appeared. As opposed to shitty slasher movies this was a creative and different looking film.
It has enough creep factor but is in no way hard to understand = teenage glue sniffers can love it.

I don't like it at all but it makes sense that it made waves


ah, though it was a younger movie, from around 2001 or so.. from 98 actuallly... the fuzz must have been when the american version was launched. Movies like The Eye and Black Water (japanse versions) follow the same pattern as The Ring.. but i don't really like em either.. The Eye is prolly the best of them, imo - the only movie that has scared me just a little the last 10 years or so, but in the end it just gets "meh"
Is it that wave you speak of?

anywho, it always better than those crappy high school horror movies that are based on the "...booh!!"-effect or the "run all you can little girl"-effect in order to scare ppl.


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The Puffy Chair - nice indie relationship type movie. the main character was a dick though.


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Astaroth wrote:
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Astaroth wrote:
The Ring (japanese version)


wow :blink: .. this is one of the worst movies i have ever seen :lame:

i do admit, however, horror movies is not my thing and i did pay an awful lot of attention to the oh-so-scary ambient background music/noice. I did get excited once around the beginning, though, but after that i just got too damn bored and frustrated with the cheasy scritp. Why this movie got so much attention is beyond me.


Because it deviated in style from the others that were comign out up untill it. movies rippign on i know what you did last summer and scream were still ridding out there resurgance when this appeared. As opposed to shitty slasher movies this was a creative and different looking film.
It has enough creep factor but is in no way hard to understand = teenage glue sniffers can love it.

I don't like it at all but it makes sense that it made waves


ah, though it was a younger movie, from around 2001 or so.. from 98 actuallly... the fuzz must have been when the american version was launched. Movies like The Eye and Black Water (japanse versions) follow the same pattern as The Ring.. but i don't really like em either.. The Eye is prolly the best of them, imo - the only movie that has scared me just a little the last 10 years or so, but in the end it just gets "meh"
Is it that wave you speak of?

anywho, it always better than those crappy high school horror movies that are based on the "...booh!!"-effect or the "run all you can little girl"-effect in order to scare ppl.


It just depends on your taste. Personally I love all of those movies and find the Eye to be the weakest and most Generic. There just different and they are slow, I think mabye if you watch them in 10 years you will enjoy them more, they just are not horror movies made for kids.....


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I wouldn't class Cannibal Holocaust as a mondo movie, really. The violence in it that is actually real is only a tiny part that is edited out in almost all versions. Plus the fact that it's a real film with a real plotline and cast. To me mondo films refer to stuff like Faces of Death which are just compilations of people dying. (I think, I've never actually seen any of that series...)

Cannibal Ferox and all that crap are also not mondo for the same reasons as Holocaust, but they are a lot more gratuitous, so I've heard- ie they tore up little animals for laughs rather than just filming native tribespeople doing it. Not seen ferox either, although I don't really want to. I have a couple of Lenzi's other films and they are really terrible... scraping the barrel of Italian horror.


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Astaroth wrote:
unknownkadath666 wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
The Ring (japanese version)


wow :blink: .. this is one of the worst movies i have ever seen :lame:

i do admit, however, horror movies is not my thing and i did pay an awful lot of attention to the oh-so-scary ambient background music/noice. I did get excited once around the beginning, though, but after that i just got too damn bored and frustrated with the cheasy scritp. Why this movie got so much attention is beyond me.


Because it deviated in style from the others that were comign out up untill it. movies rippign on i know what you did last summer and scream were still ridding out there resurgance when this appeared. As opposed to shitty slasher movies this was a creative and different looking film.
It has enough creep factor but is in no way hard to understand = teenage glue sniffers can love it.

I don't like it at all but it makes sense that it made waves


ah, though it was a younger movie, from around 2001 or so.. from 98 actuallly... the fuzz must have been when the american version was launched. Movies like The Eye and Black Water (japanse versions) follow the same pattern as The Ring.. but i don't really like em either.. The Eye is prolly the best of them, imo - the only movie that has scared me just a little the last 10 years or so, but in the end it just gets "meh"
Is it that wave you speak of?

anywho, it always better than those crappy high school horror movies that are based on the "...booh!!"-effect or the "run all you can little girl"-effect in order to scare ppl.


It just depends on your taste. Personally I love all of those movies and find the Eye to be the weakest and most Generic. There just different and they are slow, I think mabye if you watch them in 10 years you will enjoy them more, they just are not horror movies made for kids.....


thanks for calling me a kid :lame: i'm 23... i really don't think another 10 years would help at all. Compared to horror movies like Scream these japanese movies have a big weak spot; if you don't believe in supernatural stuff at all, you'll have a harder time to get into it especielly near the end when they tries to explain the mysterius happenings. Furthermore, the cheasy script didn't make The Ring any better.


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leee wrote:
Misha wrote:
Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:
Misha wrote:
I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...
What the hell is up with that movie? It always gets mentioned as one of the goriest, most terrifying movies ever. Is it really that bad? Is it actually a movie, or a series of gruesome image after grusome image?

Cannibal Holocaust is a protest on the mundo genre, while actually being a mundo film. In case you didn't know, a mundo film is a film shot in conflict areas by which the footage of real people dying is used to make a movie. Mundo is said only to portray the truth, yet mundo film makes weren't too scared to pay people to execute others, or to do things themselves to make the footage some more interesting. These movies often use disgusting animal torture as a method to add realism. Cannibal Holocaust portays the story of Mundo film makers, who were lost in the jungle when making a film about cannibals. Their rescuers came too late, but their footage has been found. The movie begins with the rescue crew and their journey, thereafter comes the prime character's attempt to convince the company that wants to make some money on the tapes not to sell them, by showing the uncut tapes. The tapes show that the mundo film makers are actually the monsters, and not the cannibals. Although no bushmen were hurt in this film (they are all actors), it is quite ironic that a handful of animals has come to a very unpleasant end in Cannibal Holocaust. There is also some footage from "other" mundo films used in the movie, that shows real people dying. The Cannibal Holocaust moviemakers stain their own hands in their protest towards mundo filmmakers.

I never saw any other mundo film by the way, maybe someone else knows more about the the genre...
If you've seen The Blair Witch Project, the footage from the mundo filmmakers that went into the jungle in Cannibal Holocaust is shot in the same way, but in contradiction to The Blair Witch Project, which is inspired by Cannibal Holocaust, A LOT of gruesome stuff happens.


I have jsut seen stuff like Faces of Death and Mondo Asia, Shocking Asia etc. They were almost all faked films (like the Monkey stuff in Faces of Death). The animal stuff in CH is real though and dude was arrested for making the film and had to bring in the actors to prove they were not really killed.

Nice analogy of the film btw once I read it all. I highly recommend getting the Grindhouse special addition.

Uhm, a lot of the stuff in Africa Addio is real, it's used in Cannibal Holocaust as well. Jacopetti and Prosperi were known to have an influence in the docs they were shooting, although a lot of it is indeed fake. More recent Mundo (or Death) films like Traces Of Death are actually made up entirely from real footage.


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