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The most disturbing movie is by far Pokemon: The Movie. Wierd shit from Japan.

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Those Japanese "Guinea Pig" flims sound disturbing as fuck. fake snuff movies with people getting tortured to death and the like.


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Those Japanese "Guinea Pig" flims sound disturbing as fuck. fake snuff movies with people getting tortured to death and the like.


I've been trying to find those films in Finland for some time. A friend who was big time into snuff in his high school years said he's seen worse though.

I haven't got Cannibal Holocaust yet either, but am going to buy it.

Other very disturbing movies (real movies though, not mondo/snuff): Audition and Last House on the Left. Audition actually made me feel ill.


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Those Japanese "Guinea Pig" flims sound disturbing as fuck. fake snuff movies with people getting tortured to death and the like.


Only two are like that, Flowers of Flesh and Blood (which you can stream online). http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=Flowers+of+Blood

First link and Devils Experiments. Mermaid in a Manhole is just plain weird and disgusting and touching. The others are kind of sicko comedy/horry (He never Dies)


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Those Japanese "Guinea Pig" flims sound disturbing as fuck. fake snuff movies with people getting tortured to death and the like.


I've been trying to find those films in Finland for some time. A friend who was big time into snuff in his high school years said he's seen worse though.

I haven't got Cannibal Holocaust yet either, but am going to buy it.

Other very disturbing movies (real movies though, not mondo/snuff): Audition and Last House on the Left. Audition actually made me feel ill.


Follow my link and you can finally see it. Also you can buy the box set from Amazon but I don't know if you can do that in Finland or go to the Unearthed Films website. I would say only 3 out of the 6 are really worth watching and they are short as well like 60 minutes, so beware.


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The Ring (japanese version)


wow :blink: .. this is one of the worst movies i have ever seen :lame:

i do admit, however, horror movies is not my thing and i did pay an awful lot of attention to the oh-so-scary ambient background music/noice. I did get excited once around the beginning, though, but after that i just got too damn bored and frustrated with the cheasy scritp. Why this movie got so much attention is beyond me.


Because it deviated in style from the others that were comign out up untill it. movies rippign on i know what you did last summer and scream were still ridding out there resurgance when this appeared. As opposed to shitty slasher movies this was a creative and different looking film.
It has enough creep factor but is in no way hard to understand = teenage glue sniffers can love it.

I don't like it at all but it makes sense that it made waves


ah, though it was a younger movie, from around 2001 or so.. from 98 actuallly... the fuzz must have been when the american version was launched. Movies like The Eye and Black Water (japanse versions) follow the same pattern as The Ring.. but i don't really like em either.. The Eye is prolly the best of them, imo - the only movie that has scared me just a little the last 10 years or so, but in the end it just gets "meh"
Is it that wave you speak of?

anywho, it always better than those crappy high school horror movies that are based on the "...booh!!"-effect or the "run all you can little girl"-effect in order to scare ppl.


It just depends on your taste. Personally I love all of those movies and find the Eye to be the weakest and most Generic. There just different and they are slow, I think mabye if you watch them in 10 years you will enjoy them more, they just are not horror movies made for kids.....


thanks for calling me a kid :lame: i'm 23... i really don't think another 10 years would help at all. Compared to horror movies like Scream these japanese movies have a big weak spot; if you don't believe in supernatural stuff at all, you'll have a harder time to get into it especielly near the end when they tries to explain the mysterius happenings. Furthermore, the cheasy script didn't make The Ring any better.


lol, sorry bro, for some reason I always lump you into the Sonata Arctica guy and that Fingon dude age group..... Like I said, is all taste, you can't even appreciate what they were trying to do with mood and making you work for it...? You should maybe check out "Cure" you might like that one.


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I watched Cannibal Holocaust a while ago, it was quite disturbing...
I suppose there is more disturbing Mundo going around...
What the hell is up with that movie? It always gets mentioned as one of the goriest, most terrifying movies ever. Is it really that bad? Is it actually a movie, or a series of gruesome image after grusome image?

Cannibal Holocaust is a protest on the mundo genre, while actually being a mundo film. In case you didn't know, a mundo film is a film shot in conflict areas by which the footage of real people dying is used to make a movie. Mundo is said only to portray the truth, yet mundo film makes weren't too scared to pay people to execute others, or to do things themselves to make the footage some more interesting. These movies often use disgusting animal torture as a method to add realism. Cannibal Holocaust portays the story of Mundo film makers, who were lost in the jungle when making a film about cannibals. Their rescuers came too late, but their footage has been found. The movie begins with the rescue crew and their journey, thereafter comes the prime character's attempt to convince the company that wants to make some money on the tapes not to sell them, by showing the uncut tapes. The tapes show that the mundo film makers are actually the monsters, and not the cannibals. Although no bushmen were hurt in this film (they are all actors), it is quite ironic that a handful of animals has come to a very unpleasant end in Cannibal Holocaust. There is also some footage from "other" mundo films used in the movie, that shows real people dying. The Cannibal Holocaust moviemakers stain their own hands in their protest towards mundo filmmakers.

I never saw any other mundo film by the way, maybe someone else knows more about the the genre...
If you've seen The Blair Witch Project, the footage from the mundo filmmakers that went into the jungle in Cannibal Holocaust is shot in the same way, but in contradiction to The Blair Witch Project, which is inspired by Cannibal Holocaust, A LOT of gruesome stuff happens.


I have jsut seen stuff like Faces of Death and Mondo Asia, Shocking Asia etc. They were almost all faked films (like the Monkey stuff in Faces of Death). The animal stuff in CH is real though and dude was arrested for making the film and had to bring in the actors to prove they were not really killed.

Nice analogy of the film btw once I read it all. I highly recommend getting the Grindhouse special addition.

Uhm, a lot of the stuff in Africa Addio is real, it's used in Cannibal Holocaust as well. Jacopetti and Prosperi were known to have an influence in the docs they were shooting, although a lot of it is indeed fake. More recent Mundo (or Death) films like Traces Of Death are actually made up entirely from real footage.


Some, but the vast majority was totally faked especially faces of death. All the people and experts were hired actors, etc. You can read about it, I just read a huge article on it not too long ago. I know what your talking about with Africa . If you get the Grindhouse SE release of CH it has it included as well as all of the animal stuff (but you can watch a version of it without)

You guys get a lot of great movies in Holland. Tokyo Shock is from there and there seems to be a lot of extreme film versions that are Dutch releases.


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Movie genius! Cheesy as hell and also funny.


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Watching Guinea Pig 2 - Flowers of Flesh and Blood. (Thanks for the link leee!)

The gore scenes are pretty ordinary by todays standards, but the general atmosphere is pretty sick. The psychopath in the samurai helmet is fucking creepy. I got shivers when he turned to the camera for the first time.


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I though The Last House on the Left was boring, stupid shit and it basically turned into Home Alone towards the end when the parents were setting traps.

But the bit where they made the girl pee herself was a bit "oooooooh......not nice......"


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Last House on the Left is easily one of Craven's best films for me... in fact, I'm sure it's his best. I love the hippyish soundtrack, especially the way it actually narrates what is going on some of the time. The film itself feels really real and unpleasant, a true video nasty, yet at the same time it has this wacky humour running through it. Trying to fit those two sides of it together is hard, sometimes.

It also earns points for the cast commentary, where we get to hear one of the actors who since becae a xxx pornstar talk about how shameful and immoral this film is.


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Ooh talking of Japanese horror, did anyone see Takashi Miike's episode on Masters of Horror? The best I've seen so far of that series, and actually one of the only times I've found a scene really hard to watch. I really, REALLY wanted to look away during the fingernail scene.


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The greatest movie of all time is officially Samuel L. Jackson's Formula 51. This is the movie that Snakes on a Plane was supposed to be.


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The greatest movie of all time is officially Samuel L. Jackson's Formula 51. This is the movie that Snakes on a Plane was supposed to be.

Is that the one with Bobby Carlisle as the Liverpool fan? Its called The 51st State over here.

Speaking of Bobby - 28 Weeks Later next, er, week. :dio: Please don't suck. :dio:


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Just watched Threads. A 1984 English docudrama about the effects of a nuclear fallout. Very dark stuff.

Enough disturbing movies for one day...


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The greatest movie of all time is officially Samuel L. Jackson's Formula 51. This is the movie that Snakes on a Plane was supposed to be.

Is that the one with Bobby Carlisle as the Liverpool fan? Its called The 51st State over here.



Yep, and Meatloaf as a gangster. The movie is a sublime work of genius.


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Movie genius! Cheesy as hell and also funny.

haha that was a great movie


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lol, sorry bro, for some reason I always lump you into the Sonata Arctica guy and that Fingon dude age group..... Like I said, is all taste, you can't even appreciate what they were trying to do with mood and making you work for it...? You should maybe check out "Cure" you might like that one.


well, my behaviour confuse ppl i guess :lol:

i do appreciate the some of the stuff, the bizarre images. And i also appreaciate that they used ambient background noice instead of the classical american scary-scary-stab-stab!-aargh! music.

but i didn't appreciate this:

" We have to find her and dig up her body " ... why exactly is that?
" This video tape is not of this world." ... wha'?!? .. a ghost tape?! wtf?
After they removed the top of the well, the ghost crawl out on the tape and out into the living room. Then she stares at the ex-husband with her evil eye and he dies with a frozen facial expression... but ehm... why did the other ppl die with such expression when the ghost was trapped in the well at the time?.. me not understand.
Then there's the tempo in the movie. I do understand that the main-characters deadline is a fear-factor on it's own, but i dunno. Imo it was too slow. And when the ex-husband reveal his secret powers it is merely a footnote in the dialogue.. Bad.

This prolly doesn't spoil the movie for you, i hope not. To others it might seem silly. Had it been an action movie i would have been dissapointed not to have found cheasyness. Most of my dvd movies are cheasy :D .. but with a horror movie it different. But you're right, it's a matter of taste. Many ppl find the exorcist scary too, i even heard that back when it was released ppl were given vomit bag in the theaters. But i was rather dissapointed when i saw that.

If i had to direct a horror movie it would be more like the Silent Hill games with its bizare creatures and muddy graphics - the modern horror movies are too clean. It should be raw and dirty- black metal style. And then some inspiration from some scary "dreams" i have had. Wouldn't catagorize them as nightmares since they only last 1-30 seconds and contains mostly voice ambient noice stuff, blurred vision but always with alot of emotions; being freaking scared - total freezing coldness, and one time i litterally felt like being strangled while having no vision at all - it just came suddenly, i did wake up, but first inside dream where i was getting choked by my sister who had a hysterical grin on her face. Another time i just woke with fast beating heart due to the sound of a hideous scream only to be found inside the mind, and i wasn't even dreaming when it happened.. weird... So it's not like i can't get scared. But then again, i don't think ppl get scared of the same things.


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Movie genius! Cheesy as hell and also funny.

haha that was a great movie


It was ok, but not that great. The 51st State's a lot better...

Snuff films? Weirdos. :rolleyes:

Art School Confidential - Not bad at all, with bonuses in the form of a great part from Jim Broadbent, and Steve Buscemi doing his thang.


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Hot Fuzz

Wow, best fucking movie of the year. I was laughing my ass off through the entire damn thing.

And now that I'm 17, no wrinkly old hag can stop me going into a rated R movie. Take that system!


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