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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:10 am 
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well i do not feel very bad for you either...everybody knows the dangers of smoking, but they start it anyway... good luck quitting though;)


It's most likely resulting from prior lung problems. For that to develop in eight years is ridiculously unlikely. You might as well say that you do not feel sorry for someone who died skydiving. We all take risks in our lives, so stop being such a judgmental cunt.
Dude, from your arguments I have seen concerning religion and hte existence of god, you seem to the most straightforward, logical person on the board. You know smoking is bad for you. Even if it is not his fault for having weak lungs, it is his fault for choosing to smoke. It all catches up with you sooer or later, and it looks like it happened with hellraiser sooner.

I just don't really see how a logical person can defend smoking. At all.


It's better to view it as an individual choice, rather than a general choice. I only can defend why it is I smoke. For me it is a comfort--it calms, relaxes, and so forth. I started it as a sort of antidepressant, and I continue for the same reason. I suffer from depression (I should be on drugs, but I think my depression has induced too much apathy for me to actually arrange that).

It's hard for me to find anything that is enjoyable, or at the very least, relaxing. And right now, I'm in no place to let any of them go. I also really enjoy smoking for writing and philosophy.

You have to keep in mind that people have different priorities. For me, right now, keeping my sanity is more important than worrying about longterm consequences of smoking -- and I've only been smoking a year.

I don't know why everyone starts or continues to smoke, so I don't judge (and I tend not to judge people for actions that only affects the person in question).

But essentially, my point is this: we all take risks every day. Driving is a risk; many people die from car accidents. Eating unhealthy is a risk, and I could name countless other things. But we take them because life without risks would hardly be worth living. It seems naive to me to be judging people so harshly, when we all, in fact, take risks (and often, make mistakes). I used to be in the mindset that metal_xxx is in, but I dropped it a while ago: that mindset that gives no room for people to be imperfect. It reminds me of the same mindset that encourages apathy toward suicide. It is impossible to put oneself in the shoes of another--we function too differently.

The only time I think it may be more appropriate to refrain sympathy is in cases where that person is harming other people.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:42 am 
just smoke weed


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It's rather worrying that you picked it up after just 8 years. Were then any other lung probleems you had which it may have aggravated?


Well I did have mild asthma when I was very young. But it cleared off even before I was 8 years old. Then at 15 I started smoking, not heavily though. But I became a heavy smoker when I joined college, cos it was total freedom, no nagging parents, and cigarettes are easily accessible.

But I have to admit that the main reason my lungs grew weaker is because of the cigarettes PLUS my lack of exercising. The first two years of college was insane. Our hostels did not have any sports facilities, and I didnt have a transport of my own to drive myself to the nearest football field. And within those two years, I was a chimney.

It's only now in my final year (and final semester), I've moved into my own apartment and my dad loaned me his car for transport. Me and my buddies have made it a point to hit the field once a week but I think I really need more than that, to strengthen my lungs.

And Jaden, about going cold turkey, that's a big NO for me. Tried it once, hands started shivering, felt light headed and nearly passed out during my networking class. The only way is to slow down gradually. But I cant deny I have a weak will power. Sometimes I'll smoke so little on that day, and the next day, I'm smoking twice as much as I normally do.

My biggest problem is, I get bored of a certain cigarette very easily. I keep needing something stronger. I started off with Marlboro, then moved to a little heavier Dunhill, from there I hopped to Mild Seven and I ended up with Winston Lights now (don't let the 'Lights' fool you, its fucking heavy).

Thanks, guys, for all your advice, comments, and err....criticism? Haha! Appreciate it. It's a fuckin mountain to climb, but I'm gonna try hard. I wouldn't assure you guys I would quite smoking, but at least I'll cut down on it, and work out more. I need more football and swimming. That should do the trick. Now.....where on earth did I keep my Diadora boots?


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just smoke weed

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Haha! I do weed occasionally only. But I'm never hooked on it. Another reason I don't do it often cos it's illegal over here and the rules are pretty strict. If you're caught, you end up straight behind bars, or worse.....drug rehab. A cousin of mine got busted but he escaped cos my uncles bailed him out, by bribing the cops.


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 Post subject: Re: So I'm utterly screwed......so much for smoking
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:25 pm 
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Im kinda regretting picking up the habit 8 years ago. SHouldn't have done it, and should have quit long ago. But I guess it's not too late. Don't dare telling my folks or I'll risk getting nuked by my mum. My brother, a smoker as well, yelled the shit out me. And I haven't told anything to my girlfriend, who's studyin at a different college some 400KM away. I'll break the news when I wish her for her birthday, this coming Thursday. Not a nice present, eh?


really?!? Are u going to get nuked because quitting is st0pid or because " i told u sooo!"


good luck anywho


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Haha! I do weed occasionally only. But I'm never hooked on it. Another reason I don't do it often cos it's illegal over here and the rules are pretty strict. If you're caught, you end up straight behind bars, or worse.....drug rehab. A cousin of mine got busted but he escaped cos my uncles bailed him out, by bribing the cops.


do it everyday.


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hellraiser_xes wrote:
Haha! I do weed occasionally only. But I'm never hooked on it. Another reason I don't do it often cos it's illegal over here and the rules are pretty strict. If you're caught, you end up straight behind bars, or worse.....drug rehab. A cousin of mine got busted but he escaped cos my uncles bailed him out, by bribing the cops.


I heard the laws were crazy on drugs over there. Shame as weed is certainly something I'd recommend to anyone, because misconception of the herb is in kin with propaganda - the government don't like it, they can't control it and they can't make money off it. May as well rope it in with heroin & coke eh?

Please note that weed is not addictive - the nicotine is the addictive thing in a joint. If you've ever smoked grass pure, believe me, there's nothing addictive about filling your lungs with that. Oh, and it doesn't lead you onto harder narcotics, that's a person's choice and sleight of hand tactics by your political powers in making a person believe they're all related.

Disclaimer time kiddies! This is my personal view and despite saying it, people have the right to choose what they do and I don't by any means insist that someone tries something that may get them into trouble.

Besides, I ain't smoked a reefer in an absolute age...

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I think the man has enough problems right now without getting the usual scolding by the fucking Morality Police that hang around here. It's called freedom of choice, some people to actually like to use it. Beyond that, do you really need to come into every goddamned thread that mentions smoking cigarettes and spout off the same old bullshit that every single person on the planet already knows? You don't smoke and you never will, fucking hurray for you. Go eat a cookie and shut up.


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I for one will never smoke, seeing that i saw my mother die of cancer. HOWEVER, i still believe everyone has to have a choice to do it or not. Honestly, when someone in a restaurant starts coughing like a retard hoping a smoker would stop, i want to hit the person coughing.


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Really sorry to hear that, hellraiser. Good luck with quitting, just remember that doctor's office visit when you feel a craving for a cigarette.

Though I admit to being angry at smokers in general right now, due to my downstairs neighbor being such a heavy chain smoker that it permeates my apartment. I'm allergic to it, plus I have weak lungs from getting walking pneumonia five times between the ages of 10 and 20, so breathing secondhand smoke is a little bit of an issue.


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 Post subject: Re: So I'm utterly screwed......so much for smoking
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:03 am 
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Im kinda regretting picking up the habit 8 years ago. SHouldn't have done it, and should have quit long ago. But I guess it's not too late. Don't dare telling my folks or I'll risk getting nuked by my mum. My brother, a smoker as well, yelled the shit out me. And I haven't told anything to my girlfriend, who's studyin at a different college some 400KM away. I'll break the news when I wish her for her birthday, this coming Thursday. Not a nice present, eh?


really?!? Are u going to get nuked because quitting is st0pid or because " i told u sooo!"


good luck anywho


I think her logic is bothways. Plus, her dad (which is my grandad) died of throat cancer and they suspect that his (grandad's) smokin habits in his early age was the primary cause. She's a little worried on that.

Carni, maybe you should just tick your neighbour off about smoking in the vicinity, since you have weak lungs. If the guy is rational, he wouldn't smoke near you anymore, I know I wouldn't. Speaking of secondary smokers, a fine example is a friend of mine. Two years ago he contracted dengue and was warded at the hospital. And the docs said he was extremely weak and will need loads of time to recover because is blood is 'poisoned' or simply said 'dirty'. They found his nicotine level in his blood extremely high, and he's not even a smoker!!! His dad has been smoking around him ever since he was a kid. I'm sure that man would have really regretted it, cos he nearly lost his son. My friend dengue condition was at the second worst stage. Thank god he survived.


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Never say never, cos that's what I said. Both to smoking and drinking.


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You should be happy you have a reason to quit. I don't, so I can't. And nobody say "lol your health". That's not good enough, then I'd have to stop drinking and so.


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You should be happy you have a reason to quit. I don't, so I can't. And nobody say "lol your health". That's not good enough, then I'd have to stop drinking and so.


yeah quitting before your lungs are shriveled and black is such a silly idea


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You should be happy you have a reason to quit. I don't, so I can't. And nobody say "lol your health". That's not good enough, then I'd have to stop drinking and so.


yeah quitting before your lungs are shriveled and black is such a silly idea


Eh, if you live in densely populated urban area that is going to be a likely outcome wether you smoke or not. Everytime I drive to Dallas I can see the black cloud hanging over it long before I even hit the Fort Worth city limits.


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Kathaarian wrote:
You should be happy you have a reason to quit. I don't, so I can't. And nobody say "lol your health". That's not good enough, then I'd have to stop drinking and so.


You don't have to stop drinking completely. I haven't, but I have cut down a lot, and not only am considerably saner, but feel better, and seem to have lost a bit of weight as well. Start with smoking, and never quit anything outright. Cut down slowly, one cig less a day, or every few days, until you're on so little that it's just a small step quitting completely. Took me two goes, but I managed it in the end, and it really is the kind of thing you want to stop doing sooner rather than later.


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I'm doing pretty good lately. Or maybe I shouldn't be too confident so soon. I used to smoke 1 and a half packets of 20's a day, I've cut it down to 1 packet of 14's a day. At the moment I'm smoking less than that, and at times I don't buy packets. That's a good thing about Malaysian restaurants. They sell loose ciggies for 60 cents each. So at times I just get 2 sticks and it last me couple of hours.


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