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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:00 pm 
the sideline thing happens to both me and the other teams. Most throw ins are actually due to this. And yeah, it is partly because of the speed, but honestly, no players need 4-5 meters to make a turn. It's because the ball either gets kicked 2 meters a head of the player as they make contact with it or because the ball keeps bouncing up into their knees.

I forgot to mention rating system.. this time around it's really fucked up. Unless you make an assist or a goal, your player will get 5.5 or 6.0 no matter how hard he worked (dribblings, passes, distance etc) - only for the attackers of course... though, my poor Ribéry whom I use as a SM always gets either 5.0 or 5.5 despite making lots of interceptions and passes. It does happen from time to time that a hard working striker scores two goals and make an assist but still only manage to get rated 6.5.
This is ofcourse only annoying when you're trying to develope your players since the amount of growth is partly determed by those ratings.

The highest rating I have ever got was 10, back in PeS3. So far i have only managed to get 8.5 - a player who scored 5 goals in a match.

My version of Pes2008 is the ps2, btw.



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"Dude, what the fuck is this crap? This is Bullshit! Why isn't he fuckin' jumping!" etc.


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- a semi-angry game nerd

"Dude, what the fuck is this crap? This is Bullshit! Why isn't he fuckin' jumping!" etc.


ha ha... yeh :lol: exactly.. I certainly yell alot when i'm playing PES...
I'll add: " What the fuck are doing, you fucking idiot!" (except if it is Messi), " Un-fucking-believable, are you fucking blind?!?", " Shoot!! SHOOOOT! AaarghnooooooOOOOO!!!", " This game is so fucking shitty!!!"

funny enough it is one of the games I play the most, i've already spend 60 hours. I probably spend more than 300 hours on the previous game :lol:


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I just bought a Dreamcast :dio: :dio: :dio: :dio: cuz i iz a hardcore playa


A friend of mine just bought one.


Allright, good for him. I can't wait till it arrives in the mail. Do you know any Dreamcast games i should check out? I will probably get Sonic Adventure 1 and i got my eye on a Street Fighter III: Third Strike game on ebay.


I had one back in the day. I had some good games for it, if you can find it get any and all Powerstone games. They are classic. Plus Soul Calibur.


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The Necrodude wrote:
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I just bought a Dreamcast :dio: :dio: :dio: :dio: cuz i iz a hardcore playa


A friend of mine just bought one.


Allright, good for him. I can't wait till it arrives in the mail. Do you know any Dreamcast games i should check out? I will probably get Sonic Adventure 1 and i got my eye on a Street Fighter III: Third Strike game on ebay.


I had one back in the day. I had some good games for it, if you can find it get any and all Powerstone games. They are classic. Plus Soul Calibur.


Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia are a must if you like rpgs at all. I like the original Shenmue as well. Other than those I played 2 other games: Illbleed and Berserk which were pretty ok, Illbleed is a survival horror game and Berserk is just you destroying endlessly with a sword.

Dreamcast was pretty cool, but the games seemed to really be lacking. Sega was always so far ahead of the competition in ideas but could never seem to win. I wish they would fuck off and at least make a good Sonic game though. Classic Sonic assrapes Mario anyday, its sick that Sonic sucks this much now.


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errr...don't take this the wrong way. But if 9 times out of 10 your missing open goals it coz your a bit shit. I'm not saying that players sometimes don't miss em. but its more like 1 in 10.

Scoring headers is pretty easy, you just got to make sure your doing the right kind of cross and the player is in some space. One tap for back post two taps for front post. If you put the bar just under half and aim in the right direction they go in pretty much every time provided they've not got much pressure on them and they have decent heading stats. If your player is doing overhead kicks its coz your pressing shoot a bit to late, like if the ball come to you on the volley and your player heads it, thats coz you have pressed shoot to early.

The sideline thing?? Not sure i quite get you there. Do you mean when a player is chasing the ball and he puts it out for a throw when you don't want him to? Coz if it is then you just use super cancel to stop from doing it. Or is it when sometimes players take a strong touch and put it out? If its that, usually its because your holding sprint when you control the ball, but sometimes they just fuck it up lol. But that doesn't happen very often.

Not saying this game isn't without its flaws, i mean whats with that shitty new turn that players like henry do when you hold R2? That fucks me off coz its so slow. But i've not noticed any of the problems you guys have mentioned.

Lol, but yeah the rating system has always been fucked up.


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The Necrodude wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
The Necrodude wrote:
I just bought a Dreamcast :dio: :dio: :dio: :dio: cuz i iz a hardcore playa


A friend of mine just bought one.


Allright, good for him. I can't wait till it arrives in the mail. Do you know any Dreamcast games i should check out? I will probably get Sonic Adventure 1 and i got my eye on a Street Fighter III: Third Strike game on ebay.


I had one back in the day. I had some good games for it, if you can find it get any and all Powerstone games. They are classic. Plus Soul Calibur.


Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia are a must if you like rpgs at all. I like the original Shenmue as well. Other than those I played 2 other games: Illbleed and Berserk which were pretty ok, Illbleed is a survival horror game and Berserk is just you destroying endlessly with a sword.

Dreamcast was pretty cool, but the games seemed to really be lacking. Sega was always so far ahead of the competition in ideas but could never seem to win. I wish they would fuck off and at least make a good Sonic game though. Classic Sonic assrapes Mario anyday, its sick that Sonic sucks this much now.


Devoted: I will at least get Soul Calibur for sure

Silentman: I will probably get Grandia and Skies of Arcadia, maybe Shenmue as well if i can get a hold a copy for a decent prize. btw Dreamcast had a lot good games i think. It was a console for the Vertical Shooter and 2D/3d fighting fan. Which is why i got DC in the first place. Hell, there are still games coming out for it in Japan. The last being Karous released in 2007 and there is some puzzle game coming out for it in Q1 2008. So the DC still lives on!!!


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i am pretty shit, but open goals shouldn't require more than minimal aiming. you'd be amazed on just how many open goal occasions i get (and miss).

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The Necrodude wrote:
The Silent Man wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
The Necrodude wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
The Necrodude wrote:
I just bought a Dreamcast :dio: :dio: :dio: :dio: cuz i iz a hardcore playa


A friend of mine just bought one.


Allright, good for him. I can't wait till it arrives in the mail. Do you know any Dreamcast games i should check out? I will probably get Sonic Adventure 1 and i got my eye on a Street Fighter III: Third Strike game on ebay.


I had one back in the day. I had some good games for it, if you can find it get any and all Powerstone games. They are classic. Plus Soul Calibur.


Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia are a must if you like rpgs at all. I like the original Shenmue as well. Other than those I played 2 other games: Illbleed and Berserk which were pretty ok, Illbleed is a survival horror game and Berserk is just you destroying endlessly with a sword.

Dreamcast was pretty cool, but the games seemed to really be lacking. Sega was always so far ahead of the competition in ideas but could never seem to win. I wish they would fuck off and at least make a good Sonic game though. Classic Sonic assrapes Mario anyday, its sick that Sonic sucks this much now.


Devoted: I will at least get Soul Calibur for sure

Silentman: I will probably get Grandia and Skies of Arcadia, maybe Shenmue as well if i can get a hold a copy for a decent prize. btw Dreamcast had a lot good games i think. It was a console for the Vertical Shooter and 2D/3d fighting fan. Which is why i got DC in the first place. Hell, there are still games coming out for it in Japan. The last being Karous released in 2007 and there is some puzzle game coming out for it in Q1 2008. So the DC still lives on!!!


You can call me Walnut. And I am serious about Powerstone, those games are very very good. There is one other game that I use to play a lot. It was an action/fighting/3d/side scrolling type game about cops. It was tuns of fun. if only I could remember the name.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
The Necrodude wrote:
The Silent Man wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
The Necrodude wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
The Necrodude wrote:
I just bought a Dreamcast :dio: :dio: :dio: :dio: cuz i iz a hardcore playa


A friend of mine just bought one.


Allright, good for him. I can't wait till it arrives in the mail. Do you know any Dreamcast games i should check out? I will probably get Sonic Adventure 1 and i got my eye on a Street Fighter III: Third Strike game on ebay.


I had one back in the day. I had some good games for it, if you can find it get any and all Powerstone games. They are classic. Plus Soul Calibur.


Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia are a must if you like rpgs at all. I like the original Shenmue as well. Other than those I played 2 other games: Illbleed and Berserk which were pretty ok, Illbleed is a survival horror game and Berserk is just you destroying endlessly with a sword.

Dreamcast was pretty cool, but the games seemed to really be lacking. Sega was always so far ahead of the competition in ideas but could never seem to win. I wish they would fuck off and at least make a good Sonic game though. Classic Sonic assrapes Mario anyday, its sick that Sonic sucks this much now.


Devoted: I will at least get Soul Calibur for sure

Silentman: I will probably get Grandia and Skies of Arcadia, maybe Shenmue as well if i can get a hold a copy for a decent prize. btw Dreamcast had a lot good games i think. It was a console for the Vertical Shooter and 2D/3d fighting fan. Which is why i got DC in the first place. Hell, there are still games coming out for it in Japan. The last being Karous released in 2007 and there is some puzzle game coming out for it in Q1 2008. So the DC still lives on!!!


You can call me Walnut. And I am serious about Powerstone, those games are very very good. There is one other game that I use to play a lot. It was an action/fighting/3d/side scrolling type game about cops. It was tuns of fun. if only I could remember the name.


Dynamite Cop? That game looked insanely over the top and loads of fun!


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3c2aW4ayUc

i've never played it but found this on Youtube after your comments. indeed, it looks awesome.

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Microsoft is giving away Undertow for free next week on XBLA. Is it worth picking up?


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Microsoft is giving away Undertow for free next week on XBLA. Is it worth picking up?


Supposedly it's one of the best multiplayer XBL arcade games. Unfortunately I've heard the singleplayer isn't that good, but it's free so why not.

Out of all the arcade games that I've played Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is the best, actually I would say it's one of the best games ever.


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Scoring headers is pretty easy, you just got to make sure your doing the right kind of cross and the player is in some space. One tap for back post two taps for front post. If you put the bar just under half and aim in the right direction they go in pretty much every time provided they've not got much pressure on them and they have decent heading stats. If your player is doing overhead kicks its coz your pressing shoot a bit to late, like if the ball come to you on the volley and your player heads it, thats coz you have pressed shoot to early.

The sideline thing?? Not sure i quite get you there. Do you mean when a player is chasing the ball and he puts it out for a throw when you don't want him to? Coz if it is then you just use super cancel to stop from doing it. Or is it when sometimes players take a strong touch and put it out? If its that, usually its because your holding sprint when you control the ball, but sometimes they just fuck it up lol. But that doesn't happen very often.

Not saying this game isn't without its flaws, i mean whats with that shitty new turn that players like henry do when you hold R2? That fucks me off coz its so slow. But i've not noticed any of the problems you guys have mentioned.


i know the controls pretty well :wink: I do know how to cross the ball, but it is not without complications already mentioned regarding the position of the players. And my heading still suck when it comes to heading at the goal - they often head with their shoulders.

I use the "super cancel" all the time, but it doesn't help much if already touched the ball and are trying to get it under control - for some reason something that can takes as much as 4-5 meters even though the ball is right at their feet. However, it get worse if your player is under pressure from another player, then he just keeps running straight forward, super cancel wont help much in that particular situation either. And no, i'm not talking about trying to make a dribbling at high speed, or accelerating very fast while making a turn.

But yeah, the turning can be quite bothersome at time. The players sometimes takes forever to make a turn. But the R2 turn have been a part of the PES series since PES5 i think, not entirely sure. Also, the pass system and general positioning system seems more buggy this year than last yeah, but i wont get too much into that. I also think they should re-design the free kicks, they are so fustrating to take, often it a punishment cuz your player like to hide behind the opponent, also shot on goal from freekicks seems rather impossible, i kept scoring in the previous games from freekick, but now it seems as if the player either shoot 1 meter to the left or to the right of what you really aimed at.

One last thing... offside is a pain in the ass, especielly when the game wants to show you the referee on the sideline waving the yellow flag.. it's so fucking stupid, it takes about 5-10 seconds to load him and the replay, while the players on the field keep playing as if they didn't hear the wistle - happens all the time. Why not just skip him and skip the offside replay - what's the point? The referee is never mistaking anyway


Anywho... I would like to remind you, I am the best PES player ever to grace this forum. If you don't believe come visit me and i'll show you who's the better man!... I'm so lonely :sad:


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Scoring headers is pretty easy, you just got to make sure your doing the right kind of cross and the player is in some space. One tap for back post two taps for front post. If you put the bar just under half and aim in the right direction they go in pretty much every time provided they've not got much pressure on them and they have decent heading stats. If your player is doing overhead kicks its coz your pressing shoot a bit to late, like if the ball come to you on the volley and your player heads it, thats coz you have pressed shoot to early.

The sideline thing?? Not sure i quite get you there. Do you mean when a player is chasing the ball and he puts it out for a throw when you don't want him to? Coz if it is then you just use super cancel to stop from doing it. Or is it when sometimes players take a strong touch and put it out? If its that, usually its because your holding sprint when you control the ball, but sometimes they just fuck it up lol. But that doesn't happen very often.

Not saying this game isn't without its flaws, i mean whats with that shitty new turn that players like henry do when you hold R2? That fucks me off coz its so slow. But i've not noticed any of the problems you guys have mentioned.


i know the controls pretty well :wink: I do know how to cross the ball, but it is not without complications already mentioned regarding the position of the players. And my heading still suck when it comes to heading at the goal - they often head with their shoulders.

I use the "super cancel" all the time, but it doesn't help much if already touched the ball and are trying to get it under control - for some reason something that can takes as much as 4-5 meters even though the ball is right at their feet. However, it get worse if your player is under pressure from another player, then he just keeps running straight forward, super cancel wont help much in that particular situation either. And no, i'm not talking about trying to make a dribbling at high speed, or accelerating very fast while making a turn.

But yeah, the turning can be quite bothersome at time. The players sometimes takes forever to make a turn. But the R2 turn have been a part of the PES series since PES5 i think, not entirely sure. Also, the pass system and general positioning system seems more buggy this year than last yeah, but i wont get too much into that. I also think they should re-design the free kicks, they are so fustrating to take, often it a punishment cuz your player like to hide behind the opponent, also shot on goal from freekicks seems rather impossible, i kept scoring in the previous games from freekick, but now it seems as if the player either shoot 1 meter to the left or to the right of what you really aimed at.

One last thing... offside is a pain in the ass, especielly when the game wants to show you the referee on the sideline waving the yellow flag.. it's so fucking stupid, it takes about 5-10 seconds to load him and the replay, while the players on the field keep playing as if they didn't hear the wistle - happens all the time. Why not just skip him and skip the offside replay - what's the point? The referee is never mistaking anyway


Anywho... I would like to remind you, I am the best PES player ever to grace this forum. If you don't believe come visit me and i'll show you who's the better man!... I'm so lonely :sad:

Lol, you can't be that good if you can't score headers :wink: . Can you play online with your ps2 version? coz i'll happily kick your arse lol.

Bout the offside, i'm just happy that theres no blatantly onside goals being ruled off. In the last one, you could get goals ruled off side even when there was a man on the line :omfg: . wtf?

The r2 turn has been in it since the old iss days. Its just that new shit turn that henry does (and a few other players to). Its so slow! Gives the defender a great chance of getting back at you.

Still not sure what you mean bout the control, it happens every so often that they'll make a mess of it but not often enough to get me pissed off bout it. Maybe its coz i'm playing it on a ps3? not sure lol.

I think free kicks are easier on this one then the last! My first free kick was a saver lol, 32 metres out on the day i got it. was well cuffed. And i quite like that they made it a bit more difficult to do the free kicks in the middle of the park. Makes it feel more like your playing against a real player coz no one lets you pass it short. but i mostly play online (but haven't played for ages coz COD4 is amazing) so not to fimilar with playing against the computer. Played 60 games and lost 10. Only one of those loses was against some one where i thought 'fair enough, your clearly a lot better then me'. The others were games that could have gone either way.


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I've been playing alot of Rock band at some friends, which is seriously coool. On my own I've been playing alot of Zelda and Heroes of Mana.


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Finished playing Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow a week ago, amazing game. Now I'm half way through Circle of the Moon, which isn't as well made as AoS, but it's twice as hard, which is awesome because Castlevania games are usually very easy. After I'm done with CotM I'm going to finish Harmony of Dissonance, the worst of the three GBA Castlevania games.


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I've been playing alot of Rock band at some friends, which is seriously coool. On my own I've been playing alot of Zelda and Heroes of Mana.


Which Zelda have you been playing? Phantom Hourglass? Cuz that's a pretty good game.


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stuart - i have NEVER scored a free kick goal on any PES game, and in the last 2 games i've only ever seen about 5 goals.

i like to use the L1+square thing, to just give it a little touch. you carry it just a bit forward and then unleash a shot. i rarely score but at least i can find the goal, which is more than i can say for my free kicks :lol:

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Online Guitar Hero is fuuun- except for douchebags, who, when choosing the difficulty level, put their thing on hard so that you say "you know, I'll play fair and go on hard too", then change to easy and put on Through the Fire and the Flames. And the people who disconnect when they're losing.

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