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http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSCOL66909620080806?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Admit it, V: you guys are PHUQ'D


You guys, too...

"During the last 25 years, the rate of obesity has quadrupled in the UK. In England alone, 22 per cent of men and 23 per cent of women were classified as clinically obese in 2002, while 43 per cent of men and 34 per cent of women were overweight. This means that over half of all adults weigh more than their recommended weight. In the USA obesity rates increased from 15 per cent of the population in 1980 to 31 per cent in 2000 [1]. In Canada, almost 50 per cent of the population is either overweight or obese [2]. Fifty-six per cent of adults and 27 per cent of children in Australia are either overweight or obese..."

http://www.esrcsocietytoday.ac.uk/ESRCI ... dex55.aspx

"Obesity accounts for 30,000 deaths a year in the UK
70% of men and 63% of women in the UK are overweight or obese
Cases of obesity in the UK have tripled over the last 20 years. By 2020, at least one third of adults will be obese
Obesity reduces life expectancy on average by nine years
Obesity can lead to health problems, including arthritis, heart disease and diabetes"

http://www.healthexpress.co.uk/obesity_info.html

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So because American consume the equivalent of two slices of bread more than the average European / Brit, they are somehow less healthy?


If you wonder why US does good in Olympics,


/Steroids/


Bullshit.
Sounds like sour grapes, if you ask me.

You guys are all grasping at straws.

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What is ridiculous is anybody that would take this piece of yellow journalism seriously; but then again, you Brits have always been big on tabloid "news". Equally ridiculous is someone living in the U.K. spending so much time obsessing over US politics.
Anybody that thinks this is a fair representation of how Americans vote is a fucking idiot.


'So much time'? Heh, not at all. And since the article quoted people like, ooh, Kerry's actual real-life press strategist, you'll forgive me if I take that over your anecdotal evidence. Which consists of calling people 'fucking idiots' and saying things like, 'nu-uh, you guys are fat too!' Hm.


Again, if you think that which foods any candidate eats is a factor when people go to the polls, you must be brain dead.
You cant tell the difference between a fluff piece and a real news story? Must be a British thing.
And, yeah, "so much time". Whenever the topic is US poliotics or US foibles in general, you and a few other tools are all over it.

Grow up.

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I'm not saying that we Euros aren't fat. I'm saying that you Yanks are fatTER, and quoting 5-year old statistics at me won't change that.

Like everyone else is saying, just because your athletes aren't pummelled barrels of lard... I can't go on. It's too obvious.

And lastly, I am quoting an American news source which says exactly that a candidate's eating habits is a factor. Why is that 'a British thing'? Christ, man, America is the most important country in the world at the moment, why the hell can't we take an interest in what goes on there? If you visited this website more than twice a year, you might realise that the major cause of arguments about America isn't the overweight, bomb-dropping stormtroopers of death, it's you overreacting to what people on an internet forum say. Grow the fuck up yourself.


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I'm not saying that we Euros aren't fat. I'm saying that you Yanks are fatTER, and quoting 5-year old statistics at me won't change that.

Like everyone else is saying, just because your athletes aren't pummelled barrels of lard... I can't go on. It's too obvious.

And lastly, I am quoting an American news source which says exactly that a candidate's eating habits is a factor. Why is that 'a British thing'? Christ, man, America is the most important country in the world at the moment, why the hell can't we take an interest in what goes on there? If you visited this website more than twice a year, you might realise that the major cause of arguments about America isn't the overweight, bomb-dropping stormtroopers of death, it's you overreacting to what people on an internet forum say. Grow the fuck up yourself.


I don't need you or anyone else to point out that the US is in sad shape, but the funny thing is, nobody points out that this trend of decadence is a WESTERN CIVILIZATION trend... no, these threads are always a one-sided monologue started by Brits, Canadians, etc.
I have yet to see a thread started by an American pointing out other countries failings.
Taking an interest is one thing, but saying that is what is the only thing going on is an insult to everybodies intelligence.

Overreacting? If I started a thread titled EUROPEANS ARE LAZY SMELLY DRUNKEN SNOBS, or JEWS ARE AVARICIOUS CONNIVING PIGS , or NEGROES ARE THEIVING RAPING SAVAGES would there be no response?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Zad.
Hypocrisy

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Overreacting? If I started a thread titled EUROPEANS ARE LAZY SMELLY DRUNKEN SNOBS, or JEWS ARE AVARICIOUS CONNIVING PIGS , or NEGROES ARE THEIVING RAPING SAVAGES would there be no response?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Zad.
Hypocrisy


If you started the last two there would be a shitstorm, and rightly so. That you can't see the difference is pathetic. Still, start a thread about how awful Europeans are if you want.

Edit: btw, do you have a Facebook account?


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Overreacting? If I started a thread titled EUROPEANS ARE LAZY SMELLY DRUNKEN SNOBS, or JEWS ARE AVARICIOUS CONNIVING PIGS , or NEGROES ARE THEIVING RAPING SAVAGES would there be no response?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Zad.
Hypocrisy


If you started the last two there would be a shitstorm, and rightly so. That you can't see the difference is pathetic. Still, start a thread about how awful Europeans are if you want.

Edit: btw, do you have a Facebook account?


There is no difference; they are both blanket statements directed at a sinle group and both can be (arguably) backed by internet data.
The only difference is a superficial one defined by what is PC.
Next, of course, you'll claim that I harbor those sentiments, which is not true, just illustrating a point.
I can't stand hypocrisy, it really irritates me.

I have no problem with Europeans, why would I start a thread putting them down?

And fuck no, I don't have a face book account.
Why?

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Overreacting? If I started a thread titled EUROPEANS ARE LAZY SMELLY DRUNKEN SNOBS, or JEWS ARE AVARICIOUS CONNIVING PIGS , or NEGROES ARE THEIVING RAPING SAVAGES would there be no response?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Zad.
Hypocrisy


If you started the last two there would be a shitstorm, and rightly so. That you can't see the difference is pathetic. Still, start a thread about how awful Europeans are if you want.

Edit: btw, do you have a Facebook account?


There is no difference; they are both blanket statements directed at a sinle group and both can be (arguably) backed by internet data.
The only difference is a superficial one defined by what is PC.
Next, of course, you'll claim that I harbor those sentiments, which is not true, just illustrating a point.
I can't stand hypocrisy, it really irritates me.

I have no problem with Europeans, why would I start a thread putting them down?

And fuck no, I don't have a face book account.
Why?


Oh, come on V. Blacks are a race, Jews are a race. Americans aren't a race, Europeans aren't a race. You could make an argument about white european aryans, but it's missing the point; 'Americans' and 'Europeans' are generally used to mean people that live in America/Europe. Whenever I use the word 'Americans' I take it (and thought everyone else did too, it's common damn sense) to mean a significant amount of the American population. It's not meant (at least I don't mean it as that and I apologise for not being clearer if this is what's getting you worked up) to mean ALL AMERICANS EVERYWHERE. I think Noodles just meant to start a thread discussing this link saying that Americans are fat, and ironically called it what he did. All I've been saying is that in general, the average American seems to be more overweight than the average Euro.

As for the Facebook, a Metal Reviews group started there recently and someone idly speculated on whether you have one.


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Zad wrote:
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Overreacting? If I started a thread titled EUROPEANS ARE LAZY SMELLY DRUNKEN SNOBS, or JEWS ARE AVARICIOUS CONNIVING PIGS , or NEGROES ARE THEIVING RAPING SAVAGES would there be no response?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Zad.
Hypocrisy


If you started the last two there would be a shitstorm, and rightly so. That you can't see the difference is pathetic. Still, start a thread about how awful Europeans are if you want.

Edit: btw, do you have a Facebook account?


There is no difference; they are both blanket statements directed at a sinle group and both can be (arguably) backed by internet data.
The only difference is a superficial one defined by what is PC.
Next, of course, you'll claim that I harbor those sentiments, which is not true, just illustrating a point.
I can't stand hypocrisy, it really irritates me.

I have no problem with Europeans, why would I start a thread putting them down?

And fuck no, I don't have a face book account.
Why?


Oh, come on V. Blacks are a race, Jews are a race. Americans aren't a race, Europeans aren't a race. You could make an argument about white european aryans, but it's missing the point; 'Americans' and 'Europeans' are generally used to mean people that live in America/Europe. Whenever I use the word 'Americans' I take it (and thought everyone else did too, it's common damn sense) to mean a significant amount of the American population. It's not meant (at least I don't mean it as that and I apologise for not being clearer if this is what's getting you worked up) to mean ALL AMERICANS EVERYWHERE. I think Noodles just meant to start a thread discussing this link saying that Americans are fat, and ironically called it what he did. All I've been saying is that in general, the average American seems to be more overweight than the average Euro.

As for the Facebook, a Metal Reviews group started there recently and someone idly speculated on whether you have one.


Bah, enough.
Western civilization is locked in a downward spiral; old news.
I am not "worked up", the title of the thread was IMO disingenuos .
Fuck it, who cares....
Seriously, though, why would you (or anybody else) waste a moments thought on the American political system, regarding who will be the next meat puppet, at least? It's a sad joke.
Also, why always dwell on the negative?
Who cares that a whole bunch of Americans / Europeans / etc. are fat? Other than the social causes (longer commutes, lower wages, higher cost of living, ever more hectic schedules) which result in this phenomena, that is.
I don't worry about others, only me and mine.

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You guys are all grasping at straws.


...says the one who brought up athletes to defend the overall health of his country?


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So because American consume the equivalent of two slices of bread more than the average European / Brit, they are somehow less healthy?


If you wonder why US does good in Olympics,


/Steroids/


Bullshit.
Sounds like sour grapes, if you ask me.

You guys are all grasping at straws.


Marion Jones, the guy who won tour de france last year(don't remember his name), NFL players in particular, NHL players. Testing for steroids is pretty much never done over there. pretty much every powerlifter who claims to have the world record etcetcetc.


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You guys are all grasping at straws.


...says the one who brought up athletes to defend the overall health of his country?


Says the one that uses sensationalistic hyperbole to stir shit up?
I am not defending anything, least of all the overall health of the US; if you were half as smart as you think you are, you couild see that I was pointing out the fact that the thread is total bullshit, since other Western countries are right behind the US... like I said the difference between us and the next country on the list is less than two slices of bread.
The point about the gold medals was merely to point out that we dominate the rest of your pasty candy asses in all Olympic sports.
:lol:

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cry of the banshee wrote:
So because American consume the equivalent of two slices of bread more than the average European / Brit, they are somehow less healthy?


If you wonder why US does good in Olympics,


/Steroids/


Bullshit.
Sounds like sour grapes, if you ask me.

You guys are all grasping at straws.


Marion Jones, the guy who won tour de france last year(don't remember his name), NFL players in particular, NHL players. Testing for steroids is pretty much never done over there. pretty much every powerlifter who claims to have the world record etcetcetc.


Oooohhh... one person, maybe two... and we are talking about the Olympics, not the NFL.
More bullshit... face it, you guys are just weaker than we are.
Don't be such a sore loser.

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Haha do you even have a clue? No, don't think so. I'll take your responses with a grain of salt.


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Seems like the discussion has gotten pretty deep and as I'm a lazy Scandinavian I haven't read it all. But "Americans are fat selfish pigs"... Fat yes we all know that, but selfish? Hmm could be. I think the title is missing the word "stupid". There's more internet crap about Americans being scarily stupid than selfish.


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I was pointing out the fact that the thread is total bullshit


a thread named "AMERICA IS FAT SELFISH PIG" is bullshit? surprising!

i just thought the point about portion sizes was interesting, and in my experience true, AND YOU ALL HAD TO GO DO THIS. OH GOD THE HORROR


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Haha do you even have a clue? No, don't think so. I'll take your responses with a grain of salt.


Do you? citing TWO steroids cases as proof that thats the reason why US dominates the Olympics is clued in?

Fool.

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Seems like the discussion has gotten pretty deep and as I'm a lazy Scandinavian I haven't read it all. But "Americans are fat selfish pigs"... Fat yes we all know that, but selfish? Hmm could be. I think the title is missing the word "stupid". There's more internet crap about Americans being scarily stupid than selfish.


You base your world view on "internet crap" and have the face to call others stupid?
Irony, anyone?

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Haha do you even have a clue? No, don't think so. I'll take your responses with a grain of salt.


Do you? citing TWO steroids cases as proof that thats the reason why US dominates the Olympics is clued in?

Fool.


Yes I do, I've been studying both drug and steroid abuse for the last year in college.

Diane Williams and Evelyn Ashford is additional examples. Marion Jones' ex-husband. I could mention many more. What makes you think that the US basket and baseball-team doesn't use steroids/drugs for their preparation? Of course they won't do it in the Olympics, they'll get caught. But as I said, doctors and medical staff doesn't seem to have a problem with signing a prescription for steroids. As I stated earlier, drug and steroid abuse is rarely tested in the US.

And does the US completely dominate the olympics? nah. And definately not the winter olympics.

And what the hell. What the hell is the point of discussing athletes if you can't discuss all of them? Including the ones not participiating in the olympics.


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