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Fuck, that's some fucked up shit.

Those pics really show how fucked up war really is. We hear about acts of war and terrorism being done every day, but you rarely get graphic pictures to go with those news. Just reading about these kind of things every day in the news has made me somewhat desensitized, but it's allways shocking to see the pictures of it. So i guess i'm still human

You can make such pictures in every war. I'm pretty sure the worst thing are never shown to the people.

Yeah, most likely.

Newsflash for you Karmakosmonaut, it's the fucking truth. In Romania, we still associate the russian soldier with the expression "davai ceas".

Another historic fact: russian soldiers freed the women from Auschwitz. Then they raped them.

Sorry, but that's retarded. Free yourself from those stereotypes.

Never thought I'd agree with a Karmakosmonaut post on politics, but yeah, what's with all the Russian soldier stereotypes?

Trapt,



People are using the "wooh evil Russia" stereotype a lot, presumably to place in counterpoint to cuddly lovely NATO, but Putin does have form in using violent occupation to expand their territorial influence i.e. in Chechnya. It seems to me that they wish to transform S.O and Azkhabia into pro-Russian micro-states, which they don't have any business doing.

What's retarded and where's the stereotype? I just confirmed that what traptunderice mentioned actually happened. I've heard several such stories from old men who were around at that time, including my own grandfather. They were not making it up. But I guess you know better.

The message here is basically 'move on'. Hating the Russians because of what they did fifty years ago, is the same as hating the Germans for what they did seventy years in the past. Anachronistic, pointless, closed-minded, and as I've already stated, retarded.

They have only become stereotypes because that is what really happened. My friend's grandpa was sent to Siberia and died there for owning a bank. He is pretty avid about hating Russians for what they did for reasons not for stereotypes.

It is alright to criticize Russia for what they did fifty years ago because they are still doing it. As far as I know, they aren't still burning Jews in Germany but Russia is still militarily occupying states they have no business of entering like Romania.

Of course. I just can't stand Russia taking all that flak while the U.S. doesn't. Mind you, the U.S. take a lot of flak allright, but the difference between the group of people badmouthing one and the group badmouthing the other is telling. I'm saying this as a Western European, with little geopolitical input in either country.

So stereotyping Russia is retarded because the US isn't equally stereotyped or criticized? If so that is retarded. America basically opened the door for Russia to invade anyways by pinning ourselves down in Iraq when we should only be in Afghanistan.

Oh and NATO is preWWI bullshit.

It's ridiculous that Russian soldiers can act like scum (Chechyna, heard of it?) and there's hardly any news reportage yet when western soldiers do relatively minor things wrong the media is all over them.

I mean, no-one's saying that the Georgians aren't shits either, but there's a reason people say 'war is hell'. And no, it's not because you have to shoot at other people.

Yeah, they are still doing it now. Besides, it's not like they did some abuses during WWII and that was that, "get over it, it was 50 years ago". Maybe that's convenient for a Belgian to say. For us, in Eastern Europe, that was only the begining. Our democracies were overthrown, the political leaders were jailed or executed and 40 years of communist regimes and ruthless dictatorships followed, all inforced by Russia. Whenever people tried to overtake these regimes or the regime itself tried to become more liberal, Russian tanks and soldiers marched in to settle things. It happened in Hungary, it happened in Cehoslovakia (on 20 August 1968, Cechks are commemorating 40 years right today). That's why former communist countries are so wary of Russia, that's why presidents of Ukraine, Poland and the baltic countries were the first to go to Tbilisi and show support. They know better what Russian attitude towards what they consider to be their "spheres of influence" really is, they know very well they can be next, especially Ukraine. While the Westerners are often naive about it.

And all this hatred towards US smells of hypocrisy, because if tomorrow Russia attacks another European country, say Belgium, all Belgians will fall on their knees and beg US to come and save their butts. And if US won't, then some nationalist Belgian kid will find out for himself just how stereotyped the views on Russian soldiers really are.

How many Russian soldiers have you actually met to make that judgement? The reason we react so badly to Western soldiers abusing prisoners etc is because we hold them to such a paradigm of wonderfulness in the first place. Want proof of this? Try to find anybody in the mainstream media except George Galloway describing any British troops as anything other than brave, heroes, great lads etc. Those Russians on the other hand...

People that imply that entire groups of other people are a homogenous mass of scum can, in the words of Dead Kennedys/Napalm Death, fuck off.

saw John Steward the other day... it's rather funny that the American government say you can't just walk around invading other countries in the 21th century .. hyprocisy, i dare say... yet, true

What?! Just because our troops are held up as angels means we have to extend the same courtesies to everyone else's troops? Face it, Charles, soldiers are scum, bred to kill other people and trained to not get all upset afterwards. There are reports of sick goings-on at Abu Greib et al, but there are also reports of very sick goings-on at the hands of Russian soldiers, and I should ignore them because I, personally, have not met any Russian soldiers and so am not aware that some of them may own kittens? Christ. That's the worst argument I think you've ever put forwards.

And never quote Napalm Death to a fanboy, honestly. ND and DK are telling Nazi Punks - a homogenous mass of scum if ever there was one - to fuck off. In other words, the opposite of what you said.

John McCain said that which made it even better.

A hundred percent of Russian soldiers may not be barbarous but there are enough examples to guestimate that a good majority of them have done some despicable acts as many other soldiers from other countries have. I just know of exact examples where Russians have done that and it has lead me to consider them to be wretched characters.

Unless those soldiers are ninety years old, you can't blame them. The Russian Army isn't an officialised institution for war criminals.

They fooled me.