Overrated and underrated metal musicians?

noodles · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:28 am

sorry, yeah i was joking. i thought it would be kind of obvious that the two bands aren't really comparable at all. "iron maiden are better than any punk band" i just a pretty silly thing to say imo because they just don't have much if anything to do with punk.

i was listening to Enemies of Reality today and Jeff Loomis strikes me as a bit overrated. he can shred and write some great riffs, but his tone isn't very good - it's got that Meshuggahy mechanized feel to it but it's murky instead of sharp - and some of his solos are just kind of lazy (the one in "I, Voyager" for example)

actually, i can't think of any 7 or 8 string guitarists who i really enjoy listening to. for Meshuggah it fits their music well, but it's not exactly pleasant.

Ness · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:38 pm

I think you're stretching for attention now. Come on, Loomis??? I'd say he is pretty damn underrated, and he gets a lot of recognition.

Thomas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:08 pm

I agree about his tone... But he is a damn skilled guitarist, if you like it or not.

noodles · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:46 pm

metal_xxx wrote:

I agree about his tone... But he is a damn skilled guitarist, if you like it or not.

yeah, wasn't trying to argue that

Thomas · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:38 pm

Am I the only one finding Amon Amarth completely average? Bough their two first full-lenghts today, and I'm not impressed so far.

The_Voice · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:43 am

metal_xxx wrote:

Am I the only one finding Amon Amarth completely average? Bough their two first full-lenghts today, and I'm not impressed so far.

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Dago · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:15 am

Adveser wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

to him it is... tehy're gonna bring down christianity anytime now.

Not at all.

It has everything to do with knowing the eventuality of that outcome, that religion will become inconsequential over time.

Compare the world's history as it relates to religion and it is clear that never has religion been more irrelevant than it is now. Sure, An argument could be made that fanatics are more powerful, but only because weapons are more powerful. Even in Iran their words are meaning less and less.

Anton LaVey anticipated religions end sooner than it is happening. Its really that cut and dry.

Satanists are not anti-christian (that's black metal your thinking of)

Satanists are anti-faith in any form.

Figure out the rest for yourself, the info is out there, so go find it.

Well i didnt know that. It seems Satanism is not so bad after all, if it is like you describe.

Karmakosmonaut · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:27 am

There's another Jihad at our doorstep and you claim religion has never been weaker? :unsure:

Goat · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:25 pm

A jihad! Where?

Amon Amarth grow on you. Get drunk and pretend you're a Viking.

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:29 pm

I never thought much of them until I heard a song that totally made me feel like a motherfucking Norse warrior. It's was pretty cool.

Thomas · **Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:38 pm

Zad wrote:

A jihad! Where?

Amon Amarth grow on you. Get drunk and pretend you're a Viking.

yea... it sounds better after a couple of spins.. Allthough not as fantastic as I expected it to be.

heatseeker · **Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:51 am

About Jeff Loomis, none of his guitar work on Dead Heart in a Dead World has struck me as amazing or even above average, but This Godless Endeavor is pretty much equivalent in technicality to the shredmasters (Malmsteen, Petrucci, etc.). I think there's something I'm missing on DHIADW because everyone says it's amazing, but it just seems like really basic riff-chorus-riff-chorus-solo-riff stuff with riffs and solos that aren't good enough to make up for it. This Godless Endeavor, different story, but yeah.

Thomas · **Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:03 am

I never thought of Jeff Loomis as anything in particular before I heard his solo stuff.. Nevermore is and will always be mediocre to me.

EdgeOfForever · **Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:44 am

metal_xxx wrote:

I never thought of Jeff Loomis as anything in particular before I heard his solo stuff.. Nevermore is and will always be mediocre to me.

That's crazy, I'm still trying to find something as good and consistent as Nevermore, they're amazing.

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:31 am

Speaking of Jeffs, I was listening to Bloodbath this morning and I had an awesome thought: Jeff Walker fronting Bloodbath.

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

Karmakosmonaut wrote:

There's another Jihad at our doorstep and you claim religion has never been weaker? :unsure:

Correct.

I can't be legally murdered for expressing interest in Black Magic.

There's ALWAYS a jihad anyway and I couldn't care less how offensive anything is to muslims. They don't understand that the laws of the US supercede their religion in every case.

Goat · **Posted:** Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:11 am

Adveser wrote:

Karmakosmonaut wrote:

There's another Jihad at our doorstep and you claim religion has never been weaker? :unsure:

Correct.

I can't be legally murdered for expressing interest in Black Magic.

There's ALWAYS a jihad anyway and I couldn't care less how offensive anything is to muslims. They don't understand that the laws of the US supercede their religion in every case.

Something's slightly off about this post, but I can't put my finger on it...

Dago · **Posted:** Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:14 am

traptunderice · **Posted:** Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:34 pm

It's odd that he brings up the US when it has more to do with Europe but whatever.

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

traptunderice wrote:

:blink: It's odd that he brings up the US when it has more to do with Europe but whatever.

Well, I don't live in Europe, so I couldn't say that in my situation. And yes I'm quite aware of the situation in Europe where certain, not all mind you, muslims believe their holy book IS the law. Sorry, that is not true. The soveirgn laws of a country are the rules, not religious dogma.

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