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The Axis of Perdition - The Ichneumon Method (And Less Welcome Techniques)
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What a terrific surprise to see this album reviewed!
You sure nailed it in the review. All I can say is that it's fucked up.
In the good kind of way. I agree with everything, it's not the most pleasant or joyful record but it has something strange and attractive about it. I would consider this my fav album of them, but the latest Urfe is perhaps even more dissonant and disturbing. :ph34r:


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Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


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Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


Reviews are forthcoming for both. Cheers guys, great band indeed.


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Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


The Silent Hill samples keep me from taking this seriously.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Esiel wrote:
Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


The Silent Hill samples keep me from taking this seriously.


I've hardly played any of those games... maybe that's why it hits so hard. Stil, you found SH to be a laugh-riot?


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One of the most amazing bands around imo. Like you Zaddy I find this hard to listen to because it is indeed disturbing. But equally awesome. I think Blut Aus Nord is the only band that can compare to TAOP in terms of weirdness.

The red god is my favorite album by them. I haven't listened to this one nearly enough, I will do that now.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Esiel wrote:
Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


The Silent Hill samples keep me from taking this seriously.



I'm not sure if you mean the samples on Deleted Scenes or simply what I said about SH. The movie kind of missed the mark, really. I didn't mean it in a literal way, either. They tried too much to appeal to the game fans while putting together a coherent story and it nearly failed. But anyway... the point of Silent Hill was never to be gory or scary in the "boo!" sense. Each Silent Hill game is an experience... a descent into a psychological hell. What makes SH scarier than other horror games/movies is, IMO, the strong feeling of insecurity and insanity that it conveys. Personally, I find the idea of going insane and not being able to make reality from fiction to be much scarier than zombies or anything gory. (no offense to b-movie fans, I'm one too!)

But yeah... the point is, Axis of Perdition menage to convey that chaotic, uncomfortable feeling of insanity and puts it to an album. That's simply what I meant by being scarier than Silent Hill. Deleted Scenes to me feels like Silent Hill without the little bit of coherence. It just lurks and and emulates the mind of a maniac. But that's what's so damn cool about this band!


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Esiel wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Esiel wrote:
Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


The Silent Hill samples keep me from taking this seriously.



I'm not sure if you mean the samples on Deleted Scenes or simply what I said about SH. The movie kind of missed the mark, really. I didn't mean it in a literal way, either. They tried too much to appeal to the game fans while putting together a coherent story and it nearly failed. But anyway... the point of Silent Hill was never to be gory or scary in the "boo!" sense. Each Silent Hill game is an experience... a descent into a psychological hell. What makes SH scarier than other horror games/movies is, IMO, the strong feeling of insecurity and insanity that it conveys. Personally, I find the idea of going insane and not being able to make reality from fiction to be much scarier than zombies or anything gory. (no offense to b-movie fans, I'm one too!)

But yeah... the point is, Axis of Perdition menage to convey that chaotic, uncomfortable feeling of insanity and puts it to an album. That's simply what I meant by being scarier than Silent Hill. Deleted Scenes to me feels like Silent Hill without the little bit of coherence. It just lurks and and emulates the mind of a maniac. But that's what's so damn cool about this band!


But this 'maniacal incoherency' also has its downfall, as one has to be in an absolutely 'correct' mood to appreciate it. I have yet to experience one of these moods, and thusly, I haven't been able to listen to Deleted Scenes... in its entirety. The same would go for this one, if I ever get around to buying it.

But alas, masterful bands require time and dedication!


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Esiel wrote:
Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


The Silent Hill samples keep me from taking this seriously.


I've hardly played any of those games... maybe that's why it hits so hard. Stil, you found SH to be a laugh-riot?


No, but it's kinda hard to feel scared or uncomfortable when they pull samples from a video game. It gives me the image that the band is just a few guys who like the Silent Hill series, so they decided to write Black Metal about it. It kinda kills it for me.

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Esiel wrote:
Great review for a band that completely sets themselves apart. This one was fucked up enough but the follow-up to this (Deleted Scenes...) is just... there's no words for it. It's Silent Hill put to black metal. It's Silent Hill made even scarier. But I think that's exactly why some will feel attracted and pulled towards this band. They're one of the very few who makes album that make you feel genuinely uncomfortable... but that's the "charm" of it all.

I haven't heard Urfe myself but from what Zeth said, I badly need to get to it. :ph34r: :dio:


The Silent Hill samples keep me from taking this seriously.



I'm not sure if you mean the samples on Deleted Scenes or simply what I said about SH. The movie kind of missed the mark, really. I didn't mean it in a literal way, either. They tried too much to appeal to the game fans while putting together a coherent story and it nearly failed. But anyway... the point of Silent Hill was never to be gory or scary in the "boo!" sense. Each Silent Hill game is an experience... a descent into a psychological hell. What makes SH scarier than other horror games/movies is, IMO, the strong feeling of insecurity and insanity that it conveys. Personally, I find the idea of going insane and not being able to make reality from fiction to be much scarier than zombies or anything gory. (no offense to b-movie fans, I'm one too!)

But yeah... the point is, Axis of Perdition menage to convey that chaotic, uncomfortable feeling of insanity and puts it to an album. That's simply what I meant by being scarier than Silent Hill. Deleted Scenes to me feels like Silent Hill without the little bit of coherence. It just lurks and and emulates the mind of a maniac. But that's what's so damn cool about this band!


I've played Silent Hills 1, 2, 3, and 4. The first three are some of my favorite games ever. The movie was pretty sincerely meh.


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You're the type of person who sits there and listens to Iron Maiden - Rime Of The Ancient Mariner, arms crossed, and then goes 'Hmph! It was only an albatross, don't see what all the fuss is about.' MISSING THE POINT, DUDE!


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The albatross is a literary device. Silent Hill is a video game.

I perfectly understand being influenced by the Silent Hill series, but like I said, using samples kinda kills it for me, partly because the VA in those games isn't really that great..


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The albatross is a literary device. Silent Hill is a video game.

I perfectly understand being influenced by the Silent Hill series, but like I said, using samples kinda kills it for me, partly because the VA in those games isn't really that great..


But it works great in context! Fine, maybe playing SH and getting to the 'Daddy, help me' bit, it's just another plate of chips, but as used in TAOP it's highly effective and freaky, especially when the track starts and it goes several floors down towards the Basement of Mental. No?


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It's not that I don't enjoy AoP, and I can definately see what they wanted to do with the samples, but it just doesn't really work for me. Overall, I tend to find that samples are a lot more effective when I don't know where they're from. If I had no idea what Silent Hill even was, the samples would probably work a lot more for me.

See, I love Dream Theater's "Space-Dye Vest," but knowing that the "dry heat" bit came from Conan O'Brien, that part makes me giggle a little bit.


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It's not that I don't enjoy AoP, and I can definately see what they wanted to do with the samples, but it just doesn't really work for me. Overall, I tend to find that samples are a lot more effective when I don't know where they're from. If I had no idea what Silent Hill even was, the samples would probably work a lot more for me.

See, I love Dream Theater's "Space-Dye Vest," but knowing that the "dry heat" bit came from Conan O'Brien, that part makes me giggle a little bit.


Really? Doesn't make a difference to me.


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If we sampled your mom from last night I'd bet you'd be pretty scared.



Is it still hip with your mother jokes? I'm getting out of touch.


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No, but it's kinda hard to feel scared or uncomfortable when they pull samples from a video game. It gives me the image that the band is just a few guys who like the Silent Hill series, so they decided to write Black Metal about it. It kinda kills it for me.


True. I can relate to that some in the sense that there's this Bethlehem song on Mein Weg that pulls the "Redrum" sample from The Shining (the movie) and I just can't help but laugh everytime. It's meant to be disturbing but it's so goofy that it's funny.

Although, I've listened to Urfe (the new AoP album) and it's completely different, though. It's gone way past Silent Hill. It's even more eerie than Deleted Scenes, I think.

And wow... did this thread degenerate since earlier... :lol:


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Resident evil is better.








wait, what?


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I prefer this album to Deleted Scenes, that one's just genuinely too freaky. I listened to that album as a whole one night and had nightmares for the first time in about 30 years. :P

I think 'My Time, My Reign, My Tyranny' is the best on this album, it's complete chaos.


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