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In Australia, single teen mothers get so much Government money its fashionable to get knocked up

Do they go around begging guys to have unprotected sex with them?

Actually, we don't know that the planet is overpopulated. There is easily enough food and resources for 6 billion of us, it is just that it is distributed so unevenly; the problem is one of distribution, not numbers. If you don't believe me try going to your local supermarket at closing time and see how many people could be fed with the food they are throwing away there. I get tired of this errant nonsense. Those people starving bring it on themselves... they shouldn't have had those kids! Nice one.

Jebus christ... forced birth control? mandatory abortions? what a bunch of deluded cranks some of you guys are. Fuck, just imagine trying to shove skull-piercing implements up the vagina of some young woman who wants to keep her baby. And what the hell is this "mandatory birth control"?! You are going to go round looking for teenagers having sex and then force a jonny onto the boy?

Good god what planet are you on... I am eternally amused by your demented ravings. Some of you I suspect are just jealous because these kids are getting more action than they are, despite being 13 years old

You're being silly, apart from anything else, but ok, I'll bite, despite the hysterical tabloid anti-abortion language you're using; you think it's perfectly alright for under-16s to have children?

And come on, kids that age would shag a sofa if it looked good enough. That Chantelle's horrendous.

Looking at the number of children born in a certain place vs food availability seems perfectly sensible, no?

Haha, "hysterical anti-abortion language"? Typically knee-jerk crap. This is what abortion is, didn't you know that? You can put a suction machine up there if it's early, or you can decompress the skull if its late. Or did you think it was done with magic wands and fairy dust? It is frequently a deeply traumatic experience that should only ever be undertaken voluntarily.

Where do I even start with you? Nobody is pro-abortion, except for you apparently. All those people that campaign for the right to abortion all over the world, do so under the banner of being PRO-CHOICE. Let's say it again. PRO-CHOICE. It is based on the principle that a woman's body is hers to do as she wishes with. The pro-choice movement is something I admire greatly, and if I were more easily offended I'd say your performance in this thread were pretty much spitting in its face, tbh.

Tell me why, exactly and precisely, these foetuses should be gotten rid of. Because it can't be looked after properly? You have no idea about that at all, but yet you are still certain enough to order by decree that the pregnancy be terminated.

Is it because it will be a burden on society? Again, you have no idea whether it will be or not.

But then, it isn't about any of these things at all, is it? It's about the fact that you are disgusted and appalled by a thirteen year old fathering a child. Just like pretty much everyone else is. Except, you seem to think your own right not to be offended by such "premature ejaculation", so to speak, justifies declaring that in any event of teenage pregnancy the government is morally justified in coercively entering a woman's body and destroy a child she is carrying.

Deary me.

A lot of the time food is imported to places that end up throwing it away, from places where there is not enough of it.

nobody should have sex before 18 and the punishment should be a bullet in the head.

WELL. First of all it's not a woman's body that's being debated here, it's a child's. Fridge and I assume you were quite happy for the choice to be made for her by her family to keep the baby, so why is it so shocking that the decision isn't in her hands re abortion? I know full well that abortion is taking a baby and sucking its skull out, and ditto blah blah pro-choice yes yes yes, but if the choice isn't in her hands anyways what relevance does that have?

What you miss is that often women, even in countries where the choice exists, are pressured into keeping a baby that they don't want, whether by religion, peer pressure, dumb films like Juno and Knocked Up or overbearing parents wanting to sell stories to the gutter press. Why is this particular child being born? Because its parents, whoever they may be, were not educated enough to know about sex, and the girl's guardians decided that the possible £500000 that little Alfie may be receiving as payment for the shit-stirring documentary mentioned in that Guardian link I posted is worth the girl's life being ruined. She'll have no-one's respect, ever.

I mean, come on. Is she going to have the child, go to university and become a great leader? Is she fuck. She'll be pregnant again before she's 18 and will turn into yet another desperate celebrity-wannabe whoring herself literally and figuratively for attention. This child will be a burden on society, and making out that 'ooh, it might not' in some misty-eyed anyone-can-make-it nonsensical argument is ridiculous.

As for the last bit, yikes. My disgust is more over the situation and the mother's age rather than the boy's cocksmanship. Let's turn it around: you are so hellbent on the protection of 'rights' that you would put a child through the whole painful and traumatic childbirth cycle rather than a relatively painless abortion, assuming of course it's early, just because the government has no rights at all over its citizens? Again, why should the under-16s have rights to have children?

"relatively painless" abortion? they're usually traumatic for mothers who plan on having their child and/or consider it a living thing.

Source? Mothers who plan on having their child are having an abortion for what reason exactly?

I wish

I think the main problem is having people too young to make conscious ethical decisions like this in a situation where they're forced to. A 14 year old shouldn't have to deal with the issue of abortion or not at all.

Easy solution, slip a rubber on.

this is why 12 year olds shouldnt be having sex



i probably got it from some crazy pro-life site. i haven't read about it in years. having the government force you into an unwanted abortion seems just as bad as a teen birth to me though.

Or if they do, make sure they know how to NOT have kids.

It's not a woman's body that's being debated?

There's a huge difference between a family contributing to a decision (on what basis do you claim that she had no say in the matter?) and the government imposing one upon a person, that really shouldn't need explaining.



What an utterly weird set of assumptions and predictions. Of what relevance is religion and peer pressure to this episode? Both of those are wrong because they force someone to do things they don't want to do, which is EXACTLY what you yourself are attempting. In fact, you could pretty much be Ayatollah Goat right now.



Rah rah more "I'm better than them" bollocks. Maybe you could give up being a lawyer and try doing something useful as well, eh?



Good god man get a hold of yourself. I am saying she should be allowed to choose whether she has it or not, how could you infer otherwise?. Sorry but I am beginning to question the grip you have on your own sanity, let alone the argument you are trying to make.

By the way, I don't actually believe you about this:

Almost what I think. But, I would say adults are better prepared if that makes sense. As for the forced abortion, I would say no.

Jesus fucking christ, mandatory abortions for parents under sixteen? Seriously, that is laughably ridiculous. What's next, executing retarded children because they're a burden to society and cannot be properly cared for? Hahahahahahahahaha. Seriously man, you are just ridiculous.

And the best thing we can do is make contraception readily available but with an emphasis on abstinence, since if you really don't want a baby you should probably just not have sex.