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Since I've chosen Lovecraft for my research product, I bought this yesterday:

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Wtf is your research on that you get to indulge in some Lovecraft?

Attempting to start Live Working or Die Fighting in the middle of the school quarter. We'll see how that goes. I'm supposed have been reading a bunch of Max Weber for a class but he pisses me off too much to get into it. Still reading tons of David Hume.


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LWoDF is really easy to plough through. Really good book; it's written in a very journalistic, anecdotal style but it is also a really interesting and educational history of the trade union movement. It picks out some previously obscure (at least, stuff I hadn't really known about at all) bits of history and links them in to global processes.

And yeah, Afro D Shack, can I study what you are studying pls.


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traptunderice wrote:
Afro_D-Shak wrote:
Since I've chosen Lovecraft for my research product, I bought this yesterday:

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Wtf is your research on that you get to indulge in some Lovecraft?

Attempting to start Live Working or Die Fighting in the middle of the school quarter. We'll see how that goes. I'm supposed have been reading a bunch of Max Weber for a class but he pisses me off too much to get into it. Still reading tons of David Hume.


Heh, it's just my Language Arts III class (I'm still in high school), we're allowed to do a research paper on WHATEVER we want. So whatever will give me an excuse to read Lovecraft...


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For the first time in a long time I bought some books!

W.E.B. Dubois 'The Soul of Black Folks'
Frantz Fanon 'Black Skin, White Masks'
Dostoevsky 'Poor Folk'
Mary Daly 'Gyn/Ecology: A Metaethics for Radical Feminism'
Daniel Little 'The Scientific Marx'

I already read the little didn't like it but it's good reference to have around. The used book store had some Adorno (Dia. of Enl., AestTheory)but they were too written up to be worth the $12 a piece they were asking for 'em :sad:


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still reading Mein Kampf....


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still reading Mein Kampf....
Why? If this is some infantile attempt to seem rebellious, you're doing it wrong.


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still reading Mein Kampf....
Why? If this is some infantile attempt to seem rebellious, you're doing it wrong.


Nah man, It's an interesting book he is just kind of long-winded at times.


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He's arguing for agnosticism. Interesting so far; the kind of book Fridge will read in his twenties and feel silly at his past life.


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He's arguing for agnosticism. Interesting so far; the kind of book Fridge will read in his twenties and feel silly at his past life.


Putting it on my amazon list right now. I've read a lot about agnosticism and the arguments for and against it, but so far I'm still convinced of its poverty.

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It's far from perfect, but interesting. He basically comes down on the side of atheism for logic, and religion for emotion, from what I've read. But he's a good, clear writer, with some kinda charming mistakes like saying the alien bursts out of Sigourney Weaver's chest.


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Goat wrote:
It's far from perfect, but interesting. He basically comes down on the side of atheism for logic, and religion for emotion, from what I've read. But he's a good, clear writer, with some kinda charming mistakes like saying the alien bursts out of Sigourney Weaver's chest.


Why that dichotomy specifically?

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Heh, not read the whole thing yet so not sure.


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Heh, not read the whole thing yet so not sure.


Well, get back to me when you do. Seems a bit of a long shot. Atheism doesn't necessarily imply rationalism, or even scientism. As for emotions, well, the big claim against atheism is that it leads to a materialistic/eliminative/naturalistic/quasi-positivistic/whatever mindset in which everything is reduced to science, which apparently would be bad for humanity. Trouble is, everything either can be reduced to science or will be able to be reduced to science in the future, so I don't really see the problem.

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At this very moment, David Hume's Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding Chapter 11 'A Providence and Future State'. Debunking the argument from design before Paley even came around is how you become a badass.


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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... oust-brown
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... llegations

Jeesus, Broon's starting to look like Nixon. Must read that book.


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Ploughing through the Illiad. Great stuff.


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James Joyce- Dubliners.

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Can someone recommend me some good short story collections? I don't think I've ever read a short story for pleasure in my life. Quite weird, since I've tried to write a few.

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James Joyce- Dubliners.

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I've heard that Joyce is damn near unreadable if you're not an "experienced" reader. Is that true?


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December Flower wrote:
Can someone recommend me some good short story collections? I don't think I've ever read a short story for pleasure in my life. Quite weird, since I've tried to write a few.

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James Joyce- Dubliners.

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I've heard that Joyce is damn near unreadable if you're not an "experienced" reader. Is that true?


For short stories go with a collection of Bukowski. My first one was Tales of Ordinary Madness. Dubliners is also a collection of short stories.

As for Joyce, well, you probably won't get his message unless you have some experience in reading between the lines or recognizing symbolism and whatnot. His vocabulary and syntax don't seem to be too complicated to me, but then again, I'm a pretty experienced reader, so my view might not be correct.

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I read one story from Dubliners and it wasn't hard to follow. It's mostly his later stuff like Ulysses and Finnegan's Wake that gives him the unreadable reputation.


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