stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
What irks me to no end is the context under which these pretenders usurp the term "conservative". When I conjure up the term "conservative" in political discourse with nominal right wingers, they usually abscond to either Ronald Reagan or ever more disturbingly George Bush. I,e the prototypical pro-corporate, deregulatory, pro war, interventionist, oil guzzling autocrat whose penchant for sending young American middle class young men to die for geopolitical goals, is only surpassed by their ability to leap over the constitution. Suffice to say that when I hear some jester say Obama is destroying the country, bringing socialism, is a godless Kenyan muslim, I have no other option than to view the other alternative of the flag-waving, faith based, unquestioning Bush years. Conservatism is now recognized by a Jay-lenno lookalike, an Irish nymphomaniac, a morbidly obese druggie, and a closet panywaist whose only goal in life is to perpetuate the myth of a "liberal conspiracy". Fuck them all.
Out of curiosity, who would you consider a true conservative?
My fellow Arizonan Barry Goldwater
Interesting. He was more Libertarian than anything else, though.
I agree, BTW.
What about Buckley?
the weakest aspect of either individual is the anti-communist nonsense, with Buckley my issue is his defense of Mccarthy, Buckley judging by a few things was also a foreign policy interventionist, other than that he isn't all that different than Goldwater was.
Everybody has something that is disagreeable about their philosophy; Buckley was smart, but he wasn't flawless.
At any rate, the anti-communism was a product of the era.
And, to be perfectly blunt, communism goes against everything that makes humans excel.
One of the most interesting interviews I've seen is the one with Buckley and Norman Mailer.
Two intellectuals on opposite sides (more or less) of the political spectrum.
The way I see it, the biggest dissapointment (other than being hijacked by neo-cons) of the conservative movement is that it has been co-opted by religious fanatics.
That and becoming, by and large, corporate puppets.
Still, their are a few true paleo-conservatives left.