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bottom line, regardless of the economy, if you can't afford a home, don't apply for home ownership.
Whatever happened to prudence and personal responsibility?


Sadly, that is the job of regulators and lenders. Human DNA hasn't changed. Up here, anyhow, there are strict rules (and getting stricter) on who can be granted a mortgage and under what terms, and the banks simply won't lend you the money if your debt service to income ratio is too high. And they look at ALL of your debt obligations. Funnily enough, it has worked.


That's the way it should be, of course.

I disagree about relieving people of their personal fiscal responsibility, though... I cannot afford a new Corvette, and I know it. If I somehow manage to convince a dealership to allow me to finance it, I default on the car payments and it gets repo'd, that is really my fault for being stupid and shortsighted.

Same with credit; if you live outside your means and rack up an unpayable credit debt, whose fault is that?


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http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm ... 802df.html

What a puss.
Princess "chafes" at answering questions shouted at him during pooled, non-press conference events, does he?

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his staff has often opted for “stills sprays,” excluding print reporters or TV cameras who might capture Obama in the less than flattering non-act of snubbing a query.


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Rebekah Brooks has resigned! :lol: Good riddance, you corrupt, rancid bag of piss. And the Feds are investigating 9/11 hacking, what a glorious week this has been.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/20 ... CNETTXT766


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Interesting.


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He wishes he had access to a gun. I bet he isn't hoping that they would have access to a gun as well. Some 'fag' pulling a gun out on an armed gang who already intended on beating the shit out of him would have shot his ass at the first sign of him pulling a gun on them.

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What is it with black "yoofs" and gang violence? Cowardly jackals, I am waiting for the day when a pack of these savages attacks the wrong white boy and gets a clip or two emptied on their worthless asses. We have CCW laws here, after all.
But they only attack the weak, the weak looking, or when they outnumber the victims by a large margin, so that probably won't happen. Still, it would be sweet.

If more people started popping off a few rounds at these evolutionary dead ends, maybe there would be less black mob attacks on whites.

He is right; in this cesspool of a society we live in it is up to and you alone to protect yourself and your family.


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Shoot first, think later.... Maybe America can kill himself that way, that would be nice.


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I didn't know if you guys know this but only black people have gangs.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-03-18/b ... -men-power

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2 ... 47266.html

http://www.redding.com/news/2009/jun/29 ... ystanders/

Interestingly, white gangs comes up with white power stuff but point still stands.

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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
Shoot first, think later.... Maybe America can kill himself that way, that would be nice.


Shut up, ass hat.

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I didn't know if you guys know this but only black people have gangs.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-03-18/b ... -men-power

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2 ... 47266.html

http://www.redding.com/news/2009/jun/29 ... ystanders/

Interestingly, white gangs comes up with white power stuff but point still stands.


Challenge:
lets see who can post more mob violence, I'll take black on white, you take white on black... you game?
And I am not talking anything more than ten years old.

And posting the same story twice doesn't count as two incidences, sorry.


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But they only attack the weak, the weak looking


I have to admit this is true to a certain extent. I am more often "nagged" by turds when I have to use my cane than when I do not. This is no mere coincidence. But I'm glad I don't own a gun when that happens, though.


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Let's also post poverty rates to reflect the disproportionate wealth and how it encourages barbarism amongst individuals regardless of race.

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Let's also post poverty rates to reflect the disproportionate wealth and how it encourages barbarism amongst individuals regardless of race.


Nope.
Poverty is no excuse for attacking helpless individuals.
Try again, that shit doesn't fly here.

Because if poverty were the cause, there would be more white violent crimes, since their are more whites in poverty due to them being the predominant racial group here.
Instead we see the opposite.
You really wanna keep going? I'll feed you your liver, as I have so many times before.

So you up for it or not?


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Poverty rates for whites is 12% to like 35% for blacks. Not to mention differing rates of media coverage.

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Poverty rates for whites is 12% to like 35% for blacks. Not to mention differing rates of media coverage.


Nope, media coverage is the opposite... want proof?

Also, 12% of 70% >>> 35% of 12%... so, nice try.

some numbers based on the us population being 300,000,000 (rough figure):

210,000,000 whites in us (70%)

63,000,000 in poverty (30% of single parent households)


36,000,000 blacks in us (12%)

14,400,000 in poverty (40% of single parent households)

63,000,000 > 14,400,000


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in ... ily_status

Try again.


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Let's also post poverty rates to reflect the disproportionate wealth and how it encourages barbarism amongst individuals regardless of race.


Nope.
Poverty is no excuse for attacking helpless individuals.
Try again, that shit doesn't fly here.

Because if poverty were the cause, there would be more white violent crimes, since their are more whites in poverty due to them being the predominant racial group here.
Instead we see the opposite.
You really wanna keep going? I'll feed you your liver, as I have so many times before.

So you up for it or not?


I can agree somewhat with this statement that he made, as evidenced that when the going gets tough in times of catastrophe or a breakdown of society, that poverty and or lack of the necessities in life have caused groups regardless of race to act out in desperation. There needs to be some more oversight in this comment, as poor blacks steel as much as dirt poor whites who waltz into walmart and lift whatever objects they desire. As for attacking helpless individuals, we can play the charade of digging up pointless statistics to suit our point. But in the end it is the individual who perpetrates a crime and is charged in the court system, not a race.

As for gangs, the issue at hand is whether or not an enterprise is to be had in engaging in criminal activity. In most of my research the original intent with prison gangs in particular was protection of their "race", and as time went on succeeding generations transformed the intent to a logical arm of backward capitalism. Aryan Nations, Aryan Circle, and Caucasian gangs of such are the minority, but pose a threat equal to MS13, Nuestra Familia, the Latin Kings or any black gangs such as the Gangster disciples for the fact that the money in the drug trade can gather arms equal on both sides to fight the neverending struggle for turf and money. I think it's intellectually dishonest to blame black gangs who are disproportionately displayed on the media, when all races have their gangs and the problem is on the rise. The issue should not be pointless finger pointing, and addressing the problem of gang activity in prison by weeding those pieces of shit out through whatever means necessary.

We've all heard the idiot Californian prison guards say, "We don't run the prison", they do well if some of these people get the rightful bullet they deserve, then perhaps these idiot CO's at times working in conjunction with the gangs will find themselves selling hotdogs on a street corner as opposed to being part of the problem. Does it take a "war" on crime in the Reaganite neoconservative sense, no but if you make an example out of the gang leaders and impose harsher sentences and community outreach on the local not federal level, then perhaps we can see a change.


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stevelovesmoonspell wrote:
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Let's also post poverty rates to reflect the disproportionate wealth and how it encourages barbarism amongst individuals regardless of race.


Nope.
Poverty is no excuse for attacking helpless individuals.
Try again, that shit doesn't fly here.

Because if poverty were the cause, there would be more white violent crimes, since their are more whites in poverty due to them being the predominant racial group here.
Instead we see the opposite.
You really wanna keep going? I'll feed you your liver, as I have so many times before.

So you up for it or not?


I can agree somewhat with this statement that he made, as evidenced that when the going gets tough in times of catastrophe or a breakdown of society, that poverty and or lack of the necessities in life have caused groups regardless of race to act out in desperation. There needs to be some more oversight in this comment, as poor blacks steel as much as dirt poor whites who waltz into walmart and lift whatever objects they desire. As for attacking helpless individuals, we can play the charade of digging up pointless statistics to suit our point. But in the end it is the individual who perpetrates a crime and is charged in the court system, not a race.

As for gangs, the issue at hand is whether or not an enterprise is to be had in engaging in criminal activity. In most of my research the original intent with prison gangs in particular was protection of their "race", and as time went on succeeding generations transformed the intent to a logical arm of backward capitalism. Aryan Nations, Aryan Circle, and Caucasian gangs of such are the minority, but pose a threat equal to MS13, Nuestra Familia, the Latin Kings or any black gangs such as the Gangster disciples for the fact that the money in the drug trade can gather arms equal on both sides to fight the neverending struggle for turf and money. I think it's intellectually dishonest to blame black gangs who are disproportionately displayed on the media, when all races have their gangs and the problem is on the rise. The issue should not be pointless finger pointing, and addressing the problem of gang activity in prison by weeding those pieces of shit out through whatever means necessary.

We've all heard the idiot Californian prison guards say, "We don't run the prison", they do well if some of these people get the rightful bullet they deserve, then perhaps these idiot CO's at times working in conjunction with the gangs will find themselves selling hotdogs on a street corner as opposed to being part of the problem. Does it take a "war" on crime in the Reaganite neoconservative sense, no but if you make an example out of the gang leaders and impose harsher sentences and community outreach on the local not federal level, then perhaps we can see a change.


I'm talking about interracial mob violence.


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traptunderice wrote:
I didn't know if you guys know this but only black people have gangs.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-03-18/b ... -men-power

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2 ... 47266.html

http://www.redding.com/news/2009/jun/29 ... ystanders/

Interestingly, white gangs comes up with white power stuff but point still stands.


All races have gangs. I'm not quite sure what your broader point is, and while poverty certainly is a part of the issue, a federal response as seen by the War on Drugs is not a desirable solution to the problem. Perhaps, a few social programs on a limited basis in the inner city could change a bit, and I am for this but something in the "War on drugs" sense as spouted by the big government loving idiots in both parties is something that logically follows acknowledgement of the problem on the national scale. We've seen when a community and on the local levels things change, as in LA when the Bloods and Cryps made a treaty as the community grew to not tolerate the activity. This of course is a nebulous response, as the gang problem in LA is at a fever pitch and the people obviously don't care that much.


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And to hell with trapt trying to sidetrack this issue by trying to make it about poverty... the raw numbers are clear: more whites live in poverty than blacks. The per capita rate may be higher for blacks, but that is not the argument.
Since there are more sheer numbers of whites in poverty, why do the crime stats indicate the opposite, eg, black violent crime is vastly more common than white violent crime; add the interracial aspect, and the disparity is even greater.


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And to hell with trapt trying to sidetrack this issue by trying to make it about poverty... the raw numbers are clear: more whites live in poverty than blacks. The per capita rate may be higher for blacks, but that is not the argument.
Since there are more sheer numbers of whites in poverty, why do the crime stats indicate the opposite, eg, black violent crime is vastly more common than white violent crime; add the interracial aspect, and the disparity is even greater.


I would say this is more due to Caucasians being more of the population, but I'm not a statics major and as always sociology can work either way when determining the causal factors of crime in race. I can't argue either way really, but I agree for the most part with your post.


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