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I would say this is more due to Caucasians being more of the population, but I'm not a statics major and as always sociology can work either way when determining the causal factors of crime in race. I can't argue either way really, but I agree for the most part with your post.

I can agree somewhat with this statement that he made, as evidenced that when the going gets tough in times of catastrophe or a breakdown of society, that poverty and or lack of the necessities in life have caused groups regardless of race to act out in desperation. There needs to be some more oversight in this comment, as poor blacks steel as much as dirt poor whites who waltz into walmart and lift whatever objects they desire. As for attacking helpless individuals, we can play the charade of digging up pointless statistics to suit our point. But in the end it is the individual who perpetrates a crime and is charged in the court system, not a race.

As for gangs, the issue at hand is whether or not an enterprise is to be had in engaging in criminal activity. In most of my research the original intent with prison gangs in particular was protection of their "race", and as time went on succeeding generations transformed the intent to a logical arm of backward capitalism. Aryan Nations, Aryan Circle, and Caucasian gangs of such are the minority, but pose a threat equal to MS13, Nuestra Familia, the Latin Kings or any black gangs such as the Gangster disciples for the fact that the money in the drug trade can gather arms equal on both sides to fight the neverending struggle for turf and money. I think it's intellectually dishonest to blame black gangs who are disproportionately displayed on the media, when all races have their gangs and the problem is on the rise. The issue should not be pointless finger pointing, and addressing the problem of gang activity in prison by weeding those pieces of shit out through whatever means necessary.

We've all heard the idiot Californian prison guards say, "We don't run the prison", they do well if some of these people get the rightful bullet they deserve, then perhaps these idiot CO's at times working in conjunction with the gangs will find themselves selling hotdogs on a street corner as opposed to being part of the problem. Does it take a "war" on crime in the Reaganite neoconservative sense, no but if you make an example out of the gang leaders and impose harsher sentences and community outreach on the local not federal level, then perhaps we can see a change.

it's about a culture that thrives on thuggery and a culture in which racial hate is fueled by the race hucksters that blame everything on whites.
Decades of black "leaders" telling blacks that everything wrong with their lives is the fault of YT is nothing more than incitememnt to violence.

I almost think I want to 'like' this. Still hesitant.

@Steve: My point about the links is opposed to V's linking gang violence to blacks alone when he was talking about "yoofs" whatever the hell that is.

I forget that V doesn't see race and how it affects people's behavior. The perception of race is going to affect how people view themselves and what they see as accceptable. If blacks are perceived as hoodlums, are poor and have no other opportunities then why not simply embrace being a hoodlum if it makes you safe in a group or make some money robbing and stealing.

So if poor whites, percieved as white trash, without oppurtunity group up and blame their lot on blacks and go around in gangs attacking blacks, that's acceptable?

So, I am guessing you do not care to take the challenge, then?

We've already debunked the "poverty is the reason" line, so that's it for that...

Stats, news coverage, all of this can be used to say whatever we want it to say. It's a dumb challenge.

Bullshit.
Stats don't lie.

I think steve made the point that interracial violence is going to happen more than not due to the large number of whites. Those black folk simply don't come across as many of their own kind to beat up since all us white folk are running around all the time being productive, putting ourselves out their in the open.

They already do that. That's a description of most white power groups. The disadvantaged background of skinheads quite often leads to this. it is not acceptable. Neither is black participation in gangs. What irks me is the fact that you link violence essentially to blacks.

The cycle repeats itself due to the culture which you think exists, barring some tweaks to it. I refuse to think that people join gangs because of people like Sharpton or Jackson but their exists a propensity to join gangs due to the conditions in the city developing out of poverty which black youth are sucked into and often encouraged to participate in through the culture of mainstream commericialized, mind you, hip-hop. It's not because they are black like you seem to reduce it to but I think you're right that this trend happens but for different reasons. I think it is nurtured by the media, exacerbated by the real conditions of poverty, the false hopes of what it can do for them and misunderstood nature of the problem. To paraphrase IT, their problem is my problem is your problem, not the white man next door but the white people in the govt. And the biracial guy who acquiesces to the white people in business. He doesn't get a free pass for being a bitch.

Twain's three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Sounds like a copout to me.

Hypothetically, if I posted a million articles on violence by whites would you really change your mind? The answer is no. Let's be honest. Why should I waste my time?

Waste your time? So backing up your assertions is a waste of time?

And I clearly stated interracial violence.

If I posted a million articles on interracial violence committed by whites, would it alter your understanding of the issue?

So do it already. In recent times, though; Stick with the past ten--twenty years.
Are you accepting my challenge?

That in no way answers the question. No matter what I post you're views will not be influenced. Just read like twenty abstracts of scholarly articles and the results seem to be that you can't really pin interracial violence on economic motivations or frustration but often times it results out of opportunity in given social settings. Which basically means when you have black kids who aren't averse to violence looking to make a quick buck by robbing someone they're going to rob the white yuppie more likely than the black person from their neighborhood who they know is broke. Criminology generally avoids sweeping theories. So the question becomes why aren't black people robbed and killed by white people? Given social perspectives I just don't think white people perceive black people as having yuppie-ish jobs so they're not going after them. White people attack white people though. I don't know, man, I got nothing.

I'm not going to go. It won't prove anything to me to do the research. And my results will not change how you perceive things. Waste of fucking time.