cry of the banshee wrote:
Bruce_Bitenfils wrote:
A (genuine and honest) question to the US folks : I heard two days ago that Minnesota (iirc) went bankrupt. The guy was saying it was basically some Tea Party guys's fault. The same guy was also saying the same Tea Party was responsible of this thing between the Congress and Obama regarding the debt ceiling, which threatens not only the US, but basically the economy of the whole fucking world.
So, my question is simple : I don't know whether it's true or not - if it's not please explain - but if it is, those guys (tea party) are obviously traitors to the nation. The way I understand it, they'd rather flush the country down the toilet than see Obama reelected. So, why don't you put a bullet (or three) in their necks ?
So, wanting to curb outrageous and unprecedented spending is treason, now? Hmmm.
Of course not. We have a serious debt problem here as well, and I'm in favor of cutting expenditures AND raising taxes (in a cleaver manner). The treason thing wasn't about wanting to curb spendings as you say, but risking a catastrophic impact on Moody's and Standard & Poor's (and the like) ratings. That would kill you, and us in the process. Those guys claim having America's interests at heart, and yet they want to choke it to death. Riiiiight.
CotB wrote:
Blaming the tea party is ridiculous... they have been around for what? A few years now?
The guy's point (may I remind you I am not saying this is true, because I don't know) was that the Tea Party guys basically took control of the Republican Party. And that they are directly responsible of the current... fight ? Although the obvious thing to do would be to raise the ceiling in exchange of structural cuts on spendings.
CotB wrote:
No, this countries convulsive death rattle is a bi-partisan affair and goes much further back than the last few years. Though Obama has made it infinitely worse through sheer incompetence and irresponsibility. Not to mention gangster style politics.
But to think that the next neo-con meat puppet in line for the presidency will make a difference is pure naivete.
OK, I'm not disagreeing.
CotB wrote:
Serious question: since Obama is the one really putting the boots to this nation, does the same sentiment regarding bullets apply to him?
Don't try to take me there. I'm no Obama fanboy/hater. I don't care. All I'm saying is that if a group of people (right-wingers, left-wingers, I don't care) are willing to risk the future of your country (and the rest of the planet with it), of the PEOPLE of your country, well... then they should be politically (not physically) taken down. And from where I stand - which is far away, granted - I don't feel Obama is one of that kind of people. He just wants to avoid the worst.
The people who ruled Greece the past 40 years were, that kind of people. I wouldn't mind see them in jail for the rest of their lives (the "bullet" thing was a figure of speech, obviously. Or was it ?)