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PROPOSED. This is representative of the Wall St group as well and does not include any of the other groups. I and countless others did not participate in this. Also any of these proposals can be shot down in the General Assembly if somebody declares themselves morally opposed to it. You're going to have a lot of lefty hippy bullshit but that can be reigned in by how conservative the group is or chooses to be. It just becomes their political goals, open-ended directions not hostage situation demands.

On that note, let's look at what you reject. Six hour workdays results in a 30 hour week. France is at what a 35 hour week and the US is at 40. Those ten hours cut from three individuals' week of work creates one extra job. The reigning in of how much a salary can top out at would pay for those extra positions and raises required to make 30 hours a liveable wage. 5x the minimum wage is strict in terms of wages. 20x is probably more feasible but 20x is way better than the 470x which it reaches currently, no?

Retirement at 55 is dumb. I actually think retirement should increase unless at 55 people begin taking on jobs better suited to them such as babysitting children or something. Retirement is 65 because that was a year or two before the average death rate of the time. People spent two years on social security if they were lucky, not the average 15 years we have now due to increased life expectancies.

Banning of land ownership is kinda fucking utopian and is a challenge to property rights and just won't fly. I would be much more happy about the advocating of public spaces as public.

Abolition of life imprisonment. Doesn't Norway restrict sentences to 21 years? Are Norwegians more enlightened than us? Why is this problematic?

For serious. People just throwing out ideas.

I'm not saying I disagree with it *all* (yay for open borders!) but seriously, 90% taxation of a maximum wage of $90 an hour = $9 remaining an hour. When according to this little fantasy, the minimum wage is $18. It might not be official Occupy policy, but if you're going to publish something at least make sure it makes goddamn sense! Apart from anything, not a single one of these is going to become implemented through camping out anywhere. This looks like pie-in-the-sky far-left nonsense, and makes Occupy as a whole look fucking ridiculous, especially because as you admit, Trapt, some of these are political goals!

Retiring at 55 was great!

That's what Adveser is doing, too.

At least his strain of madness is entertaining...

And harmless to others.

Indeed! The more I look into what people are saying about Occupy, the less I like it. Take this example:

http://beyoungshutup.wordpress.com/2011 ... edinburgh/





Nutters. Occupy Wall Street may be different, but this is not some global network that will bring about positive revolutionary change. The best thing I expect from Occupy is a Chris Morris film that does to lefties what Four Lions did to Islamic terrorists.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ar/248594/

Mildly NSFW. And very wtf.

Shit like that is perpetuated by a lot of old guard leftists too here in the states. That's the sucky thing about dealing with people in our society. The sexism and racism implicit in the entire society carries right on over to the people trying to change society all too often. The worser hypocrisy is still the govt charging these groups with sexism and racism as if govts never establish or solidify those forms of oppression.

Of all the spin-doctorate shenanigans you've written in this topic yet, this takes the cake

In Australia you now retire at 67. By the time I'm 67 there won't be any retiring - you'll work until you drop dead.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/2 ... 10985.html

Public sector strikers can fuck the fuck off. That is all.

Welcome to my world...

Seriously? You're turning into a tory.

"The country is bankrupt! Let's protest against its bankruptcy by bankrupting it a little more!"

Strikers are taking the day off to protest merely having to work a little longer and pay a little more for their own damn pensions, which even after the changes are still a far better deal than in the private sector. Low earners in the private sector are paying tax to support their cushy deals - how is that morally right to you? And how does pointing this out make me a Tory?

Oh, look! Why are you complaining? You're not getting fucked over as much as the other people who lack organization so why are you complaining? Speaking relatively when so many people are getting fucked over is pretty fucking conservative, i.e., bogus. How could anyone ever complain at all about having a job? Fuck benefits, at least they are getting a wage and aren't homeless, am I right?