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Yeah, bitch got owned on that one. First world is simply the Western bloc as opposed to the USSR and socialism with the third world being the underdeveloped nations that they waged war against one another through, e.g., Korea, Chile, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, etc.

Edit: Oh wait.
No as it turns out not really a need to wait. Life expectancy we rank 51 out of 223, 10 out of 214 in GNI, and education 13 out of 181. Unless Frig was trying to attribute some degree of civility to "being first world", which would be totally fucked up and problematic in itself, then that was a silly comment. In terms of being a global dickhead, fucking number one! No competition. Same as we always were since 1947.

just out of curiosity where do Australia and Scotland (home of theidiot who thinks the US isn't a first world country) rank

The USA is a banana republic. Third world poverty rates, crumbling infrastructure, economic policies that line the pockets of the rich and powerful at the expense of everyone else, and the social mobility scales comparable to Latin America.

EDIT: Oh and I forgot about militarized police forces stamping down opposition and protests to the status quo.

ummm ARE YOU A FUCKING MORON???? no actually don't answer that let me do it for you, the answer is yes, did you not read the post which outlines the criteria upon which a nations status is judged? the major deficiency is life expectancy in the US other then that they are among the top twenty nations on Earth and your calling that third-world you spanner

looks like tne syphyllis finally made it's way to ol' Frig's brain...

Of course I did. HDI is not the be-all and end-all of nation assessment (being created for very specific sub-economic purposes), and it might help if you think of my approach as a sociological perspective rather than an economic one (like the HDI). Sort out the crippling social mobility problems, the poverty and hunger rates, the state school deficiencies, the surreal spread of religiosity and bizarre anti-science rhetoric, the complete and total disregard for workers rights and all the progress done in the economic field since the Industrial Revolution, and maybe the US can consider itself a modern country once again.

That being said, the UK will soon meet these criteria as well. "Fuck the poor" isn't the best way of getting out of a financial crisis or creating social stability. A government that kills 10'600 disabled and sick people so it can shave off a sliver of its spending without having to touch the bonuses of its private school educated elite is NOT the government of a modern progressive nation.

Again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Perce ... ld_map.png

Gotta love it.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/scspi/cgi-bin/fact15.php

Wealth inequality in the US is worse than it is in Nicaragua, Venezuala or Guyana, to name a few.

Poverty, bear in mind, is a relative term as well as an absolute one. In the UK, for example, a huge amount of people struggle by on welfare, but because of stuff like the NHS and council housing, no matter how poor they will still have a home and medical care for free, so poverty HAS to be measured in relative terms.

US "poverty" =/= poverty in those above mentioned countries; it is relative, you even admit as much, yet you are trying to compare our definition of poverty (cell phones, X-boxes, flat screen TV's, etc) to those countries?




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in ... ted_States


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua#Poverty

Get the fuck outta here.

I'm talking about wealth inequality as far as those countries are concerned, not absolute poverty (which is relative for this case, yes), but even as far as poverty goes, without national healthcare and council housing, you have Americans going hungry out of poverty. This is not the sign of a modern nation. This is the sign of a mafia state, a thug government, a ruling class of corporate fascists.

Bullshit.
Every country has people going hungry out of poverty. Outside of a few European nations (with populations smaller than many of our cities, and even in those countries, I suspect there are some that aren't as well fed as others), it is part of the human condition.

We have a welfare system here, after all.
And housing for the poor. I suggest you do a little research before spouting off a lot of nonsense about "mafia state, thug government" etc. It makes you look foolish is all it does.

I've provided stats complete with visual aids. Those don't lie, regardless of how many attempts at bashing the US you make.
You don't seem too concerned with the predicaments of some European countries that are in a similar state of affairs... wonder why... same old thing, I guess.

BTW, "wealth disparity" does not necessarilly equal more poverty;
It simply means there are a small percentage of enormously wealthy people, which has always been, and I suspect will always be, the case.

Poverty levels in the US are @12%; ergo, aside from the richest @10%, that leaves @80% that are "middle class" and fairly comfortable, relatively speaking.
It's simple mathematics.

At any rate, regardless of all the bullshit above, the US is in fact a First World country.

shouldn't comment on matters you know nothing about scottish dude

You don't get it, and you'll never get it, so I'm going to stop trying. Whatever man, yeah, you live in a paradise of social responsibility and welfare and not at all in a breadbasket of robber barons.

no YOU appear to be the one incapable of understanding that the US is far from a third world nation, your ignorance in the face of statistics totally disproving your stance is nothing short of incredible

I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry, so I'll just laugh until I cry.

It is, isn't it? Nobody has made any allusions to the US being "a paradise of social responsibility and welfare and not at all in a breadbasket of robber barons"... the whole thing was whether or not the US is or is not a First World country... even his emotional cries of how evil the US is are simply not true, but that's a whole other subject. He has a history of attempting to slur the US and invariably ends up with his foot in his mouth. Best to disregard him, which I would do well in taking my own advice.

True. The use of "modern" is awkward, though. As much as your use of first world was originally wrong too.

@Relentless: You can google that shit. Just type in the stat and the word global and wikipedia pages will bring it up.