Metal Reviews

It's a moot argument anyway... the Second Amendment isn't going anywhere.
We both know this.
Which is why all the point-counterpoint in the world amounts to a pisshole in the snow in regards to the right to bear firearms.

As for



I'd rather take my chances being armed as opposed to unarmed.
At least then, you have a fighting chance; unarmed, you are at the mercy of somebody that has obviously bad intentions. Fuck that noise.

At least then, you have a chance to agitate and threaten someone who has a gun already on edge due to being in the act of perpetrating a crime.

Charming! None of that was direct proof of anything the government did, you do realise that, don't you? Conflating this to murder is simply conspiracy theory bullshit.

Glad I missed the gun debate, too.

What? You're just in time.

What topic should swat around next?
How about...

Pornography: yea or nay?


And, why or why not?

If people wanna fuck for money whether it be on camera or not, go for it.

Oh god. Yes, why not? I think consenting adults should be able to do what they like in the bedroom (or kitchen, or garage, etc) and so taking pictures/video is a natural follow-on.

TBH I'm not sure anyone will disagree with any of that, but I'm sure I'll be surprised...

I'd be willing to wager that good ole Aaron/Dead Machine, should he return to grace us with his presence, would disagree, but yeah he is probably the only one.

Looks at Cú's face with guilt written all over it

It happens to us all once we hit a certain no of posts. Keep posting and it'll go. Or I could change it. For a price. Ahem.

Oh please God no. I can only take so much aspirin

Oh yeah forgot about those silly titles lol.

Well, it's covered by freedom of speech, etc., but I think it's kind of sad and pathetic that it is so offhandedly accepted in society; used to be the province of heavy-breathing perverts in raincoats lurking about the $0.25 arcades late at night, now people openly talk about their favorite "stars" and how often they rub one off.



What about the effects on society in general, it being do readily available? I personally think it is unhealthy and a it's abundance in western society is a reflection said society's overall unhealthiness.

I am sure that that is an opinion held in the minority here, though.

They do?! Certainly not in Albion. Must be a decadent American thing.



Well, what societies don't have pornography easily available? Fundamentalist Islamic ones, basically, unless you can think of another? I know which I'd prefer...

I'm going to wait for Trapt to make the feminist argument (I remember he and Fridge having it out over strippers...) but I'm not a conservative in social matters - if men and women feel comfortable expressing themselves like that, who is anyone else to tell them not to? You can argue about the effect on children, but personally I'd consider the effect of violence more harmful than naked women, and we all came out of a naked woman to start with, so...

Hey Asa Akira has a nice ass

Feminist arguments on pornography tend to piss me off. Pornography is kinda just pathetic. It's not sexy; it's not attractive; it's just too bodies gyrating and flexing till one cums and the other fakes it. Even photographs are photoshopped to the point of the unreal. Sexual fixations are on things and organs, not sex per se. It's like the ol' Zizek example to describe the Real; you want to know what sex really is, it's a camera on the end of the dildo. The sexual Real is literally the internal view of the human body just being pounded. It's fucking grotesque. The sway of the Imaginary is gone. The only fantasy people have left are the capitalist ideological ones that things will get better or that they will be fine even if we don't change the course. The good ol' romantic ones of love and sexual attraction are gone, replaced by the commodity form, the accumulation of sexual conquests, and its fixation on breasts and holes. That moment you're pressed against someone, not even mid-coitus but just bodies close to one another, looking in each other's eyes and one's hand caresses the other one's arm. You can't get that in porn. To continue the Slovenian madman's tirades, it's like Diet Coke, same ol' appearance minus all the good stuff, the taste of it all.

I was with you up until Diet Coke, which I prefer. ;)

Yeah, I get the arguments about porn's lack of reality, but I think it's like violent videogames in that it's escapist and clearly is not supposed to be reality. That idiots take it as reality and seek to replicate it is the fault of idiots, not the thing itself. I don't like most porn, especially the violent stuff with choking etc, but I'd defend it on the basis that the people involved are doing it voluntarily and that it isn't my place to define sensuality for others.

Anyway, if not feminist, then the philosophical/political anti- view, which you provided.

I don't think anybody should tell anybody what to do whilst in the privacy of there own home, that's not really where I am coming from.
Obviously, the extreme example of fundamentalism will never do...
But what about porn that is violent and degrading? Whether or not it should be allowed (I tend to think it should be allowed as freedom of speech), how healthy is it? A distinction should be made between erotica, in the vein of Playboy type material and hardcore pornography, especially the "niche" stuff.
I hear dudes at work talking about shit that is pretty cringeworthy, vile shit like throat banging some chick until she vomits, slapping them around etc.

How long before that type of crap is accepted? Will it ever be?
I don't know.

Interesting news piece:




http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/26/po ... y-screens/

Does Zizek have an essay on this topic that I could read? Grotesque and diet coke: great stuff. I personally despise porn but I'm not sure I would make the societal arguments V makes. Maybe.

It's hollow and soulless, in other words.
Which is the path our society is heading, more and more as the years flicker by.

It seems that western civilization is increasingly like a man whose body is riddled with cancer, but he still manages to keep his shoes polished.