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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:44 pm 
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I take it back, Turkey sounds like it's heading for a very dark place indeed:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/893 ... im-square/


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No surprise. Erdogan never came across as a democrat.

He's been slowly rebuilding the Ottoman Empire with himself as the Sultan.

Before the current demonstrations, I had read articles about Turkish government going back to arresting journalists.

There's also been a lot of minor-Islamification - e.g.Islamification of curriculum, ban on sale of alcohol in certain areas, even stewardess uniforms being made more chaste etc.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21 ... ress-tests

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politic ... state.html


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Now a place truly worthy of being reviled: Sweden.

In Sweden just recently:

1. Bestiality was legal until this month

2. A 17 year old got a mere 4 years in prison for butchering his sister (at least 100 stab wounds)

3. A copper busted of having an inappropriate relationship with a minor (aka pedophile) and then got to keep his badge provided he had some counselling.

4. Coppers allowed rioters to loot and destroy at will. The next day meter maids slapped parking fines on burnt out wrecks.

The Swedes then blamed middle class Sweden for riots, despite the fact that they have one of the best welfare states in the world.

5. Give a renown anti-gay, anti-Jewish type a high role in one of main political parties, and then be shocked when it turns out he's an extremist.



No wonder their heavy metal was so good - they seem to be completely twisted.


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Now a place truly worthy of being reviled: Sweden.


Crossing the line from eccentric to bizarre again, I see. Sure it isn't as pretty as Norway, but hardly worth being reviled. The HDI (Human Development Index) for 2013 agrees with me, Norway is first place, but Sweden at #8 does quite well for itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index


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Did the HDI go down once they banned bestiality? :P

They banned it in Germany in late 2012 and it resulted in protests from "zoohpiles" who argued their rights were being threatened.

Apparently it's still legal in other parts of Europe where they luv their little animal fwiends so much! :wub:


Oh and Australia is number 2!


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Speaking of Australia, lol.


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http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2013/0 ... z2X8hcZUKO

Dilma's empty words in reaction to these protests. writers summed it up nicely.

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It's what we here call 'caviar socialism'.


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oh goody, more fuck ups in portugal.

finance minister resigned yesterday, and foreign affairs minister resigned today... he's the head of the smaller party in the ruling coalition and claims he did it because he had made it clear he didn't want like the replacement finance minister but the main party went ahead with their choice anyway.

there's a chance the government could fall and we'll need an early election, but i'm hopeful that good sense will prevail. we don't need that bullshit and if there is an early election i bet the socialist party will win, and they are a bunch of assholes. as in, more than the ruling party (social democratic) and everything.

the other guy might go back on his decision (doubt it), or his party could choose a new leader or at the very least lose their position in government but reaffirm support for the coalition in parliament.

btw: portuguese political class = shit

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Speaking of Australia, lol.


It's what happens when the ruling party is fractured beyond redemption. We get that ego maniac Recycled Crud back.

Shame opposition is run by a moron.


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It could be worse, it could be Egypt. Army has just deposed democratically-elected Morsi, with what looks like the support of the opposition and religious leaders...


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Happy birthday, America! We'll be back soon...

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm. This is the best piece I've seen on it, so far:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/shash ... rmys-coup/

Egypt's choice seems to be letting the Muslim Brotherhood fuck things up, or letting the army back in to fuck things up - considering the latter has been the norm for decades, it's really not as positive a choice as people seem to be hoping. All very well wide-eyed optimists saying they stand with the people of Tahrir Square, but the women getting sexually assaulted en masse might raise objections...


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So, how about that Obama administration?

:lol: at all the fools that really believed the "hope and change" line.

On top of the IRS scandal, NSA spying, Eric Holder's monkeyshines, Bhengazi, unemploymet steady at between 7 - % (real unemployment closer to 20%), highest levels of poverty since I can remember (thats only recently)
and now an attack on Syria. Because...


WMDS!

So let me get this straight: in the 2008 election campaign, both Obutthead and Crazy Joe said:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9dduPshTu4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tjMcNZ-smk

but all that was then, this is now. Or something.
:wacko:

Also, isn't Al-Qaeda one of the factions that is part of the rebellion? But, aren't we at war with Al-Qaeda?

I'm confused; the "rebellion" is slaughtering innocent civilians, execution style, massacreing christian villages, and there are some that say they have used CW's themselves...
Also, wasnt Kerry campaigning on how we didnt give inspections enough time (in Iraq)? Now all of a sudden, that is just thrown out the window.

How is this in any way, shape or form in the US national interest? (Rhetorical question)

In fact, the best thing for us to do is let them sort it out; both factions are our enemys, let them devour each other.

Unbelievable that this country is just that stupid that they would give this pathologically lying no responsibility taking, ass on his shoulders wearing, pencil-necked bath house frequenting pillow-biting piece of human offal four more years.

And fuck Kerry for invoking Godwin's Law; these slimy swine need to get a new script.


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How is this in any way, shape or form in the US national interest? (Rhetorical question).


I read that Obama wanted Congress to support him for that very issue: there is absolutely no direct American connection in this Syrian conflict and as a lawyer he was worried about establishing a precedent here that would judge him very poorly down the road.

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Unbelievable that this country is just that stupid that they would give this pathologically lying no responsibility taking, ass on his shoulders wearing, pencil-necked bath house frequenting pillow-biting piece of human offal four more years.


I don't think the presidential vote would have changed this. The Republican establishment is backing this intervention (and senile Gramps McCain wants to create another Afghanistan) just like the Democratic establishment is backing it. Romney in this position would most likely have done the same thing. Only on the far right and far left are we seeing members in Congress with the balls to fight this. Here's hoping Obama endures an embarrassing revolt in his own party among the far left during the House vote count and also here's hoping Paul makes an eloquent case against Syrian intervention that the media has a hard time as putting off as more 'Tea Party fringe lunacy'.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
So, how about that Obama administration?


When you take a dump in the toilet. Look into it and that sums up my feelings of this administration.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
How is this in any way, shape or form in the US national interest? (Rhetorical question).


I read that Obama wanted Congress to support him for that very issue: there is absolutely no direct American connection in this Syrian conflict and as a lawyer he was worried about establishing a precedent here that would judge him very poorly down the road.

cry of the banshee wrote:
Unbelievable that this country is just that stupid that they would give this pathologically lying no responsibility taking, ass on his shoulders wearing, pencil-necked bath house frequenting pillow-biting piece of human offal four more years.


I don't think the presidential vote would have changed this. The Republican establishment is backing this intervention (and senile Gramps McCain wants to create another Afghanistan) just like the Democratic establishment is backing it. Romney in this position would most likely have done the same thing. Only on the far right and far left are we seeing members in Congress with the balls to fight this. Here's hoping Obama endures an embarrassing revolt in his own party among the far left during the House vote count and also here's hoping Paul makes an eloquent case against Syrian intervention that the media has a hard time as putting off as more 'Tea Party fringe lunacy'.


Obama wants congress to take the blame (or at the very least share it) when it blows up in his face; he has a consistent track record of shifting reponsibilty when things go wrong; also, he has made it clear that he (in his very wrong opinion) "doesn't need congressional approval".

This is about him saving face after opening his flipper-lipped mouth, nothing more.

As for the real reasons why we find ourseelves yet again watching UN inspection vehicles leaving the scene with "evidence" on the eve of war, could be a number of reasons. A back door effort to get Iran to attack Israel, thereby granting the green light for an attack on Iran; could be the Saudis pulling the strings...

either way it has potential for disaster.


Oh, I am under no delusion that a Romney admin. would be any better, or even that the RINOs in congress are any better, believe me. I find it sadly hilarious that so many people actually still buy the snake oil, though.

Another very strange phenomenon: all the Bush-era doves are now bloodhtirsty hawks. Go figure.

As for the senile jackass McCain; he is scum. Only a vile pusbag would pass the time at a hearing on whether or not we should go to war (a war he really, really really wants, BTW, the sick bastard) playing poker, and then joking about it when caught. It lacks basic decorum, to say the least.

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cry of the banshee wrote:
So, how about that Obama administration?


When you take a dump in the toilet. Look into it and that sums up my feelings of this administration.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
also, he has made it clear that he (in his very wrong opinion) "doesn't need congressional approval".
He's right though. He doesn't need their approval to strike.

This article, written by one of my profs: http://thebulletin.org/syria-and-limits-realpolitik

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