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Nah, the cool kids all box with kangaroos :lol:


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Why is Hallucinations by Atrocity so hard to find (physically)?


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Why is Hallucinations by Atrocity so hard to find (physically)?
http://www.discogs.com/Atrocity-Hallucinations/release/368270

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Why is Hallucinations by Atrocity so hard to find (physically)?
http://www.discogs.com/Atrocity-Hallucinations/release/368270


Ok let me rephrase that, why is it so hard to find a physical copy of Hallucinations CD that I don't have to import?


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Why is Hallucinations by Atrocity so hard to find (physically)?
http://www.discogs.com/Atrocity-Hallucinations/release/368270


Ok let me rephrase that, why is it so hard to find a physical copy of Hallucinations CD that I don't have to import?
Classic German album...

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Why is Hallucinations by Atrocity so hard to find (physically)?
http://www.discogs.com/Atrocity-Hallucinations/release/368270


Ok let me rephrase that, why is it so hard to find a physical copy of Hallucinations CD that I don't have to import?
Classic German album...


Um what?


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Why is Hallucinations by Atrocity so hard to find (physically)?
http://www.discogs.com/Atrocity-Hallucinations/release/368270


Ok let me rephrase that, why is it so hard to find a physical copy of Hallucinations CD that I don't have to import?
Classic German album...


Um what?


The value would be high for such a disc as a collector's item.

Btw, option #2 on this list is a decent deal.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... ition=used


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I see, I've decided to just get it on iTunes, I was just curious as to why it was so hard to find.


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http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsoun ... _reali.php

If you can't handle his sappiness, here is the jist:
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I tell you all this because the month of October is when it makes sense for me to re-enlist and go into music/strange retox. The end of the year is nigh, and with all the activity and responsibility we adults are often saddled with, some of my weirdo racing stripes become faded from the friction and are in need of a top-to-bottom restoration.

It takes a lot of discipline and time, but I do my best, in this 31-day period, to listen to every record that has had a major effect on me. I rarely pull it off, but I have a damn good time trying. It is a great feeling to listen to a record I have had for well more than half my life and still find it to be amazing. It always makes me wonder how, when most things in my life were not working out all that well, I was right about an album.


I am kinda digging the idea. I've never really devoted time to past albums. They've always just been interspersed with the new, the current, the things I haven't heard up until then. Anyone ever do this? Should I make a list and check things off? Should I make a short list and really get some re-listens of old albums?

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Surprise! Hasidic doom metal with a trombone isn't that great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCyLZEqBUwQ

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I'm coming to the realisation I really haven't listened to many new albums lately, and of those I have there are very few I've liked, maybe I'm just not as interested in new releases as I used to be but I just can't be bothered with it.


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New HoF track: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/162 ... -the-hive/

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Anyone hear about the new Agoraphobic Nosebleed track? Jay Randall has been uploading it on every digital archive site imaginable, but at 1.5gb for an 11 hour track of dmt-inspired drone. Every site used keeps taking it down. I am downloading it now. Not expecting too much from it given how I think it is just Randall, no Hull, Katz or Johnson performing on this album. He is said as much that with PD on tour, ANb can't do much. But then he does this so we'll see. He may just be trolling the entire internet, but folks are mastering it for him insofar as it clogged up his laptop when he tried to do it and are re-uploading it to him.

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Anyone hear about the new Agoraphobic Nosebleed track? Jay Randall has been uploading it on every digital archive site imaginable, but at 1.5gb for an 11 hour track of dmt-inspired drone. Every site used keeps taking it down. I am downloading it now. Not expecting too much from it given how I think it is just Randall, no Hull, Katz or Johnson performing on this album. He is said as much that with PD on tour, ANb can't do much. But then he does this so we'll see. He may just be trolling the entire internet, but folks are mastering it for him insofar as it clogged up his laptop when he tried to do it and are re-uploading it to him.


Hmm, that's been done before: http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sa ... Man/368109
and apparently is pretty terrible. Would expect something that makes Sunn O)) demo tracks seem like Candlemass... and a headache partway through!


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Anyone hear about the new Agoraphobic Nosebleed track? Jay Randall has been uploading it on every digital archive site imaginable, but at 1.5gb for an 11 hour track of dmt-inspired drone. Every site used keeps taking it down. I am downloading it now. Not expecting too much from it given how I think it is just Randall, no Hull, Katz or Johnson performing on this album. He is said as much that with PD on tour, ANb can't do much. But then he does this so we'll see. He may just be trolling the entire internet, but folks are mastering it for him insofar as it clogged up his laptop when he tried to do it and are re-uploading it to him.


Hmm, that's been done before: http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sa ... Man/368109
and apparently is pretty terrible. Would expect something that makes Sunn O)) demo tracks seem like Candlemass... and a headache partway through!

I heard it and it was pretty lacking of anything of interest. Sad face.

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While this abundance has fulfilled my metal dreams, it has been accompanied by a strange sense of deflation. To some extent this is because dreams fulfilled are almost always disappointing. There are also good reasons why abundance does not necessarily satisfy. The ease of finding what was once obscure takes away the pleasures of anticipation, of discovery, of searching things out. The fact that metal music is no longer found exclusively in physical media removes much of that precious ‘aura’ that can accompany physical art objects. Demo tapes were exciting and mysterious objects because one had to ‘work’ to track them down. In the 1990s, I remember hearing rumours that there was a Pakistani metal band who had released a demo, something that seemed impossibly obscure and exotic at the time. I tried and failed to track down their tape, but I did track down others from faraway metal lands like the Phillipines and Peru and there was always a delightful frisson when tapes from distant lands finally arrived in the mail. Today, there isn’t much frisson to googling something and finding it. Stripped of the aura, rare and obscure metal recordings become much more mundane.


http://souciant.com/2013/11/too-much-metal/


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He should become a fan of 20s/30s swing music because then you run into stuff that's hard to find ~*even on the internet*~. Your heart skips a beat on coming across a tracker with that one Ella tune; you squeal with glee when, after months of waiting, you are finally blessed with a seeder.

I had a similar thought about how hard it must've been to find philosophy articles pre-internet. And to keep track of important quotes and stuff when you had to return things to the library.

Anyways I think I'd go for abundance any day. Maybe this is because I was raised in the time of abundance, and abandoning it for not being able to listen to whatever I want whenever I want seems a little silly. Like, back in Victoria we had Russell Books, a used bookstore where I was pretty much guaranteed to find what I wanted. I go looking for something by Nabokov, Beckett, Pynchon, Gaddis, Nietzsche, and I leave with something by them. I haven't found a similar place in Montreal and it sucks.


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Zadok wrote:
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While this abundance has fulfilled my metal dreams, it has been accompanied by a strange sense of deflation. To some extent this is because dreams fulfilled are almost always disappointing. There are also good reasons why abundance does not necessarily satisfy. The ease of finding what was once obscure takes away the pleasures of anticipation, of discovery, of searching things out. The fact that metal music is no longer found exclusively in physical media removes much of that precious ‘aura’ that can accompany physical art objects. Demo tapes were exciting and mysterious objects because one had to ‘work’ to track them down. In the 1990s, I remember hearing rumours that there was a Pakistani metal band who had released a demo, something that seemed impossibly obscure and exotic at the time. I tried and failed to track down their tape, but I did track down others from faraway metal lands like the Phillipines and Peru and there was always a delightful frisson when tapes from distant lands finally arrived in the mail. Today, there isn’t much frisson to googling something and finding it. Stripped of the aura, rare and obscure metal recordings become much more mundane.


http://souciant.com/2013/11/too-much-metal/


Yes, there is some truth in what the author is saying but ultimately I think this concern is passing.

I also highly suggest V reads this author's reflection on metal mulitculturalism. :wink: http://souciant.com/2012/12/metal-multi ... #more-9254

My favorite selection: "It’s no coincidence that the most loathed metal sub-genre, nu metal, is also the one that has been most active in incorporating black (principally rap) musical influences."

Lets apply this elsewhere: I loathe Volbeat not because Volbeat is shit, but because I have a deep-seated hatred of Elvis impersonators!


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Zadok wrote:
Thought this was a good piece:

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While this abundance has fulfilled my metal dreams, it has been accompanied by a strange sense of deflation. To some extent this is because dreams fulfilled are almost always disappointing. There are also good reasons why abundance does not necessarily satisfy. The ease of finding what was once obscure takes away the pleasures of anticipation, of discovery, of searching things out. The fact that metal music is no longer found exclusively in physical media removes much of that precious ‘aura’ that can accompany physical art objects. Demo tapes were exciting and mysterious objects because one had to ‘work’ to track them down. In the 1990s, I remember hearing rumours that there was a Pakistani metal band who had released a demo, something that seemed impossibly obscure and exotic at the time. I tried and failed to track down their tape, but I did track down others from faraway metal lands like the Phillipines and Peru and there was always a delightful frisson when tapes from distant lands finally arrived in the mail. Today, there isn’t much frisson to googling something and finding it. Stripped of the aura, rare and obscure metal recordings become much more mundane.


http://souciant.com/2013/11/too-much-metal/
I think I'm being published in a book that this guy is editing. Regardless, dude read some Walter Benjamin and completely missed the point. Digital reproduction, the incessant proliferation of music into digital format that makes all of it accessible all the time, does negate any of the aura that it might have once had. But eliminating that aura eliminates the barrier between artist and audience. Mass proliferation equals mass participation. I could post my buddy's crust punk band here and y'all could listen to it, despite them being a 30+ gutter punk, an alcoholic and a grad student in history. That's pretty fucking cool. http://coelacanthmetal.bandcamp.com/

As for that multiculturalism essay, the Laina Dawes book that he cites seems really good from what I've read of it. His claim about Sub-Saharan metal is wrong though. Bands from Uganda, South Africa, Madagascar, the aforementioned Botswana and Zambia all get mentioned when discussing African metal. I think there is also a comparative element. Metal as being a part of the culture industry competes with other parts. Metal markets to same the dispossessed youth as rap does. The market of alienated youth is a divided market; black kids tend to listen to rap and white kids if they don't listen to rap or alt rock, they listen to metal. It isn't that raced individuals are missing from metal (the audience of that Absu show in DC a few weeks back was half hispanic); it is more to blame that black folk when affluent enough to participate are going to different shows. There is a reason that Anthrax, Body Count, Public Enemy, Slayer could cross genre lines at the time and that's because they're effectively hitting the same demographic of pissed off youth. Now, twenty years later consumer choices are more constitutive of folks' identities, and rejecting what you don't "like" is as much a part of people's listening as it is enjoying what you like. I think that kinda closed the possible bridge there from early on. It is still crossed sometimes, but to claim that nu metal represented that moment is fucking stupid. Nu metal was a marketing of that original spirit and sold back to us. I might write a response to this article because I have this dude's email.

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I might write a response to this article because I have this dude's email.
Did you read his archived article about Burzum? Specifically this one: http://souciant.com/2011/03/black-metal-for-leftists/ I found his struggle with reconciling his love for Vikernes' music with his personal identity as a lefty a bit more intriguing than the usual arguments about Burzum music versus Burzum message, and he might be on to something with his conclusions about Varg as the 'eroding legend'.


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