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 Post subject: Ozzy Osbourne - Diary Of A Madman (#2884)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:52 am 
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Ozzy Osbourne - Diary Of A Madman
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Quoted: 80 / 100


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 Post subject: Are you crazy?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:49 pm 
Over the Mountain and SATO are weak songs? Damn, I've got very bad taste in music. When I heard Over the Mountain for the first time it changed my life from someone not interested in music and with no knowledge of playing a guitar to quite the opposite in a matter of months. Considering that I still listen to this style of music, this album changed my life. That's some powerful stuff. Now I find out that the song that started it all is weak. And one of my other favorite songs is boring too. No wait, these aren't bad songs, it's just your review that's bad.


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 Post subject: HORRIBLE REVIEW...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:20 pm 
Who the hell is this reviewer? This album is a classic. Over the Mountain, weak? Are you serious. Please have someone qualified (like me!) review for this site. I've lived through the releases of the 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000. I'd be shocked if this person was even born when this came out. If he/she was, then they are really dilusional!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:26 pm 
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I think the review is fine, an 80/100 (according to the metal reviews rating thingy) is outstanding. Whats wrong with outstanding? Is it because he doesn't like some songs you do? The review was not written by you, so just calm down, sometimes people have opinions, I know its weird, but just bare with it.


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 Post subject: My response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:52 pm 
It's never a big deal until it's something very special to you that is rated low or put down. And if we shouldn't voice our opposition to reviews that we don't like, then there shouldn't be an option to do so. So perhaps you should calm down and allow others to stand up for what they believe in.


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 Post subject: Re: My response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:54 pm 
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metaldaze wrote:
It's never a big deal until it's something very special to you that is rated low or put down. And if we shouldn't voice our opposition to reviews that we don't like, then there shouldn't be an option to do so. So perhaps you should calm down and allow others to stand up for what they believe in.


signing up just to bash someone's review is low, man.

I give metaldaze - "Signing up to bash someone's review EP" 45/100 because it dragged in places and there was way too much Ozzy worship.


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 Post subject: Stupid response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:07 pm 
Why is it low to sign up when I have something to say. I suppose you are saying I should have signed up when I have nothing to say. And it's not Ozzy worship, it's Randy Rhoads worship. I've been listening to metal for about 25 years. I've heard a lot of music in that time and Diary of a Madman still holds up today as relevant music. By bashing me I am led to believe that you agree with the review and that Over the Mountain is a weak song. Well then, you too have no taste in music. I will not be responding to any more insults coming my way and from now on I will only post when I agree with the reviewer. I will also be changing my username to "sheep."


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:09 pm 
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metaldaze wrote:
Why is it low to sign up when I have something to say. I suppose you are saying I should have signed up when I have nothing to say. And it's not Ozzy worship, it's Randy Rhoads worship. I've been listening to metal for about 25 years. I've heard a lot of music in that time and Diary of a Madman still holds up today as relevant music. By bashing me I am led to believe that you agree with the review and that Over the Mountain is a weak song. Well then, you too have no taste in music. I will not be responding to any more insults coming my way and from now on I will only post when I agree with the reviewer. I will also be changing my username to "sheep."


see if you can take this sentence to its absolute logical extreme as well:
"ozzy osbourne is ok"


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 Post subject: Re: My response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:10 pm 
metaldaze wrote:
It's never a big deal until it's something very special to you that is rated low or put down. And if we shouldn't voice our opposition to reviews that we don't like, then there shouldn't be an option to do so. So perhaps you should calm down and allow others to stand up for what they believe in.


Silent Man makes a good point here. No one is saying that you shouldn't voice opposition to reviews that you disagree with. No one is saying that you shouldn't vehemently debate for something that you believe. HOWEVER (and this is not directed at any one person), all this can be done while still respecting the other person's opinion. Just because someone knows that they are always right doesn't give them a liscense to unleash their torent of insults upon anyone who disagrees. If you disagree with someone, state your side and back it up. Arguments such as "you suck," "your review sucks," "you're too young/old to know" don't do anything to support a differing opinion. Instead, they only suggest that you don't have the knowledge to carry on an intelligent debate.

As for this review, I also strongly disagree. I think this is Ozzy's best album, as the strength of the songs and the consistency of the album as a whole beats Blizzard easily fort me. In my book, it's a classic. Aleksie disagrees. That's fine with me. That doesn't make him incompetent to write a review, or mean that he doesn't know anything about metal. In fact, I've agreed with Aleksie serveral times in the past about albums, just not this one.

Like I said, no one is saying that it's bad to disgaree with one another on here, but to disagree in a juvenille and immature manner is.


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 Post subject: Metaldaze is a fool
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:25 pm 
Who does this guy think he is saying that a "review is bad." I agree with everyone else here, "Hey Metaldaze, shut up!." When you said that stuff about how Diary was so powerful that it changed your life, well, you're just a fool and should not have let this review get the better of you. Stay away from metalreviews, dude, you're not following the clearly established rules of conduct. And you're the only one, you idiot. Now go listen to Over the Mountain with the realization that you are listening to inferior music. Why I oughta...


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 Post subject: Re: My response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:04 pm 
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metaldaze wrote:
It's never a big deal until it's something very special to you that is rated low or put down. And if we shouldn't voice our opposition to reviews that we don't like, then there shouldn't be an option to do so. So perhaps you should calm down and allow others to stand up for what they believe in.


But it wasn't even rated low is my point, it got an 80/100 which is Outstanding. I mean hell, I liked the new Arwen album for some reason and that got a 45/100.. or was it 49/100, I forget.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:20 pm 
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C-L-A-S-S-I-C!!!! ALL THE WAY FOR ME!!! :twisted:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:46 pm 
Man, it's been over three years since I've listened to this bad boy and I STILL remember most of the songs to the tee. I do have to side with Metaldaze and disagree about Over The Mountain. I thought that was a fine song (despite the wierd "string" section during the solo). Believer still stands as one of my absolute favorite Ozzy songs. And also, why does everybody hate Little Dolls so much? I love that song - probably one of my favorites on the record.

The thing about Diary Of A Madman that always surprised me is that it sounds so different from Blizzard Of Ozz (despite coming out not even one year later). The riffs, guitar tunings, the production. Everything sounds totally different. Also, for some reason, that cover art reminds me of the old show Fearie Tale Theater.


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 Post subject: Re: My response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:50 pm 
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The Silent Man wrote:
metaldaze wrote:
It's never a big deal until it's something very special to you that is rated low or put down. And if we shouldn't voice our opposition to reviews that we don't like, then there shouldn't be an option to do so. So perhaps you should calm down and allow others to stand up for what they believe in.


But it wasn't even rated low is my point, it got an 80/100 which is Outstanding. I mean hell, I liked the new Arwen album for some reason and that got a 45/100.. or was it 49/100, I forget.


Seriously... Hirax's The New Age of Terror, an album I would give a 90 or so got in the 30s here and you don't see me bitching.

As for my opinion on this album... Another pretty average Ozzy album. 63/100.


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 Post subject: Re: My response
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:19 pm 
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Seriously... Hirax's The New Age of Terror, an album I would give a 90 or so got in the 30s here and you don't see me bitching.
. 63/100.


Dude, i'm sorry, it's fairly rare that i name something "crap of the month", but Hirax's newest album is friggin' horrible. Have yo read their lyrics? that alone made me want to incinerate the cd.

Jason


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:04 am 
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Jason@Metalreviews wrote:
Dude, i'm sorry, it's fairly rare that i name something "crap of the month", but Hirax's newest album is friggin' horrible. Have yo read their lyrics? that alone made me want to incinerate the cd.


man Hirax's newest album rules. Everything from the vocals to production in that album is great. I havent read the lyrics but thrash isnt about lyrics anyway.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:45 am 
Well, I think Over The Mountain is one of the best Ozzy songs ever. Fucking classic. I go bonkers everytime I hear it on the radio.


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70/100 for me, its good but not great,but dont take my score so seriously since ive never been a fan of Ozzy.


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 Post subject: Re: My response
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Jason@Metalreviews wrote:
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Seriously... Hirax's The New Age of Terror, an album I would give a 90 or so got in the 30s here and you don't see me bitching.
. 63/100.


Dude, i'm sorry, it's fairly rare that i name something "crap of the month", but Hirax's newest album is friggin' horrible. Have yo read their lyrics? that alone made me want to incinerate the cd.

Jason


Nay, I haven't read the lyrics, but like Otakon said, its thrash. The riffing is incredible, and thats whats important to me, and I enjoy the vocals as well. Probably my second or third favourite thrash album from the past 10 years


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:54 am 
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I must say I was suprised Over The Mountain was indicated as a weak song. Fantastic guitar playing of course and a rather quirky yet simple main riff before the amazing extended guitar lines start.

And it is not Sarzo and Aldridge. There was a widely publicised lawsuit by Daisley and Kerslake, as they wrote and played all the rhythm section arrangements. I mean it is obvious when listening to the album that it is Daisley playing bass.

A little bit more research needed at MR at the moment.

The Coroner review was somewhat shallow as well.

And metaldaze you were pretty much on the money in my opinion just don't get personal.


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