Metal Reviews

Makes sense. It's funny how Metallica's bass players are always the "sensible ones." Now, Rob Trujillo is the "most metal" man in Metallica. James admitted it himself in an interview.

And you're the one that worships Painkiller??? Or do you still like all this music even though it's nothing more than a tired attempt to copy all that went before.

uh ! Trujillo of the ST connection ? that shows how much of a metal band Metallica now is... sad but true as they sing...

I'd say that because of all the recent lameness about metallica, they can never have been really good. If they were, they would have still been...

you know what Seinfeld, I never thought about Cliff Burton that way. Its hard to say whether you're right or not but Cliff definately isnt the best bass player in the world. Steve DiGiorgio is without a doubt. NO one will ever match his bass work....ever..ever ever ever ever. He's too fucking insane. Cliff did some great stuff, but overall Steve DiGiorgio is way better. People would argue that Cliff didnt have as much time to develop....but by 86 Steve DiGiorgio was a better bass player than him....even earlier too with his Sadus stuff. The DTP Demos are fuckin killer and his bass playing is too. SO there.

where I think you're wrong is that Cliff was much more than a simple metal bass player... I do feel very diferent influences (ranging from Genesis to Wire to a lot of metal obviously) in both his playing & composing... So, as I said, he didn't possess the biggest technical skills ever (Sean Malone does* ! ) but he had "something else" which is hard to explain as it's only known as talent...

and Sadus was, indeed, a god band.. well, second rate band !

* : I don't think any musician can be called best even in his musical category... it's art, not sport !

Sean Malone is god; Gordian Knot and Cynic are amazing.

Yeah but I still think Sadus rules.

Oh yes they do. Sadus leads to much headbanging and excellent thrashing.

About this album.. A pretty average one. I never really got what the big deal was about Metallica... Kill'em All and Ride the Lightning were most definitely excellent thrash, but the rest was pretty subpar. It does have some good songs though, such as ...And Justice For All and The Frayed Ends of Sanity. Needs much better production.

How can a band that writes songs like "Kill Team" and "Twisted Face" be second rate....they became prime metal for me when I got their "Death To Posers" Demo....which kills.

well, that's only my opinion... you have every right not to share it... a few good songs, a cult demo... ok, let's say they're "cult" not "2nd rate"... feel any better ?

On a note somewhat unrelated to this topic, does anybody else here get the impression that part of the reason St. Anger was ripped apart by metal fans was because a lot of them felt they HAD to slam anything post-Black Album Metallica put out (regardless of how good it is)?

no, I slammed it because it was complete and utter shit.

What he said.

Very well crafted album, although I must say the quality of their sound isn't too great on this one... doesn't stop me from saying this is a top metal album, just like the previous 3 Metallica albums (Puppets, Lightning and Kill 'Em All).

The nice thing is, is that there are heavy thrashy kinda songs (blackened, harvester of sorrow), but also songs with slower parts (one, to live is to die). Especially in "to live is to die", the slower and softer part that starts after 4 mins 30 secs. or so, is what I enjoyed. (not that the rest of the song wasn't amazing )

And to get back to the St. Anger thing which has been started on here:
I always believe Bob Rock had too much input into Metallica's way of working. That's all i wanna say about the factors from outside the band.

Lars Ulrich not practising his drum for years.... all I can say to that is: SAD! SAD! SAD! On the other hand I have heard quite a few nice drum parts on St. Anger, although the sound of the drum is quite annoying. So you must give Lars that he does know how to play some nice drum parts (the drum parts on ...And Justice For All were brilliant by the way).

The rest of St. Anger... well I didn't like it too much myself, like many others, had a feeling of disappointment, like many others, and I even felt like asking my money back at one point. Some called it selling out, some called it crap... I just had the idea they wanted to make their music rawer and go back to their roots somehow (that's maybe why the singing sounds like it is). Too bad their attempt failed heavily.... Maybe better luck next time (at least I hope so for them and the fans sake )

Very well crafted album, although I must say the quality of their sound isn't too great on this one... doesn't stop me from saying this is a top metal album, just like the previous 3 Metallica albums (Puppets, Lightning and Kill 'Em All).

The nice thing is, is that there are heavy thrashy kinda songs (blackened, harvester of sorrow), but also songs with slower parts (one, to live is to die). Especially in "to live is to die", the slower and softer part that starts after 4 mins 30 secs. or so, is what I enjoyed. (not that the rest of the song wasn't amazing )

And to get back to the St. Anger thing which has been started on here:
I always believe Bob Rock had too much input into Metallica's way of working. That's all i wanna say about the factors from outside the band.

Lars Ulrich not practising his drum for years.... all I can say to that is: SAD! SAD! SAD! On the other hand I have heard quite a few nice drum parts on St. Anger, although the sound of the drum is quite annoying. So you must give Lars that he does know how to play some nice drum parts (the drum parts on ...And Justice For All were brilliant by the way).

The rest of St. Anger... well I didn't like it too much myself, like many others, had a feeling of disappointment, like many others, and I even felt like asking my money back at one point. Some called it selling out, some called it crap... I just had the idea they wanted to make their music rawer and go back to their roots somehow (that's maybe why the singing sounds like it is). Too bad their attempt failed heavily.... Maybe better luck next time (at least I hope so for them and the fans sake )

Terribly sorry for the double post!

I think this album is a Masterpiece. The production is really good, if you like late 1980's production values (I do!) I finally got ahold of this album after years of delay in 2002 and it was just as influencial to me as Master Of Puppets had been in 1998 and The Black Album had been in 1996. Today, I only like a few songs from "Metallica." But this album is a constant reminder of just how good Metallica were. I can't wait to hear the new album because I heeard it was really good, the videos of the "parts" they are using on the record sound very good. James ruins them with his live singing, but maybe they'll do something about it on the album. The production will be much better than Rock Rubin has been involved with for years because he knows this will be his biggest project ever.

This was the First Cd I ever had... 4th grade