traptunderice wroteThrashtildeth wrotetraptunderice wroteThrashtildeth wroteMy family's been there for generations. That's their home, man. Why would anyone want to be in their home? That's all there is to it.I was born there. I was lucky my parents decided to come to Australia. But for other people....they just wanna live where they grew up. IT's not so weird.
I met an eighteen year old Palestinian kid yesterday who brought to the protest his grandfather's key to his original house in Haifa before he was evicted by Israel and was forced to hike to Damascus. What about his home, bro? This isn't like a valid point, but it's pretty valid.
Not arguing that, dude. If you have a look back at V's post, he asked why would our family want to live in such a powder keg ready to blow, all I was doing was answering the question directly, I meant no other implication.Besides, if you have a look back through my posts here, especially on the previous page where I got annoyed at Steve, I'm not taking sides on this issue. At this point, both sides are evil as far as I'm concerned.
But both sides aren't evil. Palestinian unrest represents a moment in which they were shoved out of their homes in order to make room for Israel, and now Israel basically works to undermine their basic existence. Whether I was spouting Leftist drivel earlier or not, the links that I posted contained valid representations of how the Israelis feel about Palestine, but more importantly the policies that have been enacted to kill their country and its civilians of hunger and thirst. To shoot "rockets" (whatever that implies whether it be bombs or firecrackers, I'll even concede the point, call all 254 "rockets" bombs if you'd like) at a country that blockades you and forces you to watch your families starve and wither seems justified to a degree, no?
You keep looking at this like the palestinans never did anything to hurt anybody. The links you posted are perfectly legitimate, I have no arguments against that. Still, no offence intended at all, but you sound like you really have no idea what's going on over there at all except for the last couple of years. Do some more research dating back a few more decades.
There is a long history of Palestian acts of terror against Israeli civilians dating all the way back to the inception of the Israeli state. Now here's the thing you have to remember: whether or not it was right or wrong for that land to become the state of Israel, it was lawful. Under international laws, the Israeli people were given that land. Again, maybe not necessarily right but still completely lawful. Now go and look up the history of Palestinan terror attacks on the people of Israel. Look up what Hamas were up to in the 90s. Here's a useful link for that: <a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pa ... de_attacks</a>
Now, I'm not AT ALL trying to say that this makes the Israeli actions right. In fact, I don't believe that at all. The Israeli government, as I've said, is comprised almost entirely of right wing lunatics and at this point, they're completely morally fucked. Having said that, it annoys me how you keep trying to make Israel out like they're the "bad guys" in this.
There's no bad guy in this, it's not a comic book. Both sides are completely evil, just take my word for it. I've lived through this shit my whole life, and I've worried about my family through too many suicide bombings to be lectured on the "innocence" of the Palestinians.