Apologies for the grave digging, but this thread was great. I only ever listened to the thing in it's entirety twice, and I can't even remember it for the most part. I don't think it's St Anger bad, but I found it to be just very dumb album. The lyrics were atrocious, the Industrial was amateurish, and the riffs were dumb. It was something stupid frat boys would like. I felt it was beneath Trey's abilites to be honest. I wasn't offended by it, but they really put out something perplexing in it's stupidity.