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that's not true... France's official position is very hippie... why can't they just be friends and work together ?

some left-wing thinkers think Israel and Palestine should merge into one country, this way it would no longer be a jewish nation and, hopefully, that would solve every problem in that particular region... actually some Israeli think that too...

Well, I'll defer to you in this area.

Personally, I think that the hebrews should have just taken Uganda. It would've solved a lot of prospective problems.

I hate to say it, Aaron, but you're wrong. Just because Israel won in the past, doesn't mean they can win again. The Arab armies back then were all using shitty ex-Soviet stuff, and had very little training. Now, they would put up a helluva fight, even just Iran on its own. Israel internally has too much strife for the country to come together, I don't see this Olmert guy near as good a leader as Sharon was. He bought the country together, Olmert hasn't the ability.

As for US vs Iran, that will be a helluva lot tougher than Iraq. Especially since Iran actually has nuclear capabilities (if not yet, they sure as hell will have soon), and unlike secular Iraq, has no qualms against using them. Taking Saddam out may have been the biggest mistake ever made in the region, before they were fighting each other. Now? Interesting times....

I think Iran already has nuclear stuff. Ahmedinecad's speaking "we might this, we could that" I think he's getting the people ready for the truth. And the motherfuker's insanely brave, he wouldn't hesitate to use them.

He's ruled by the religious leaders over there. If they call for jihad, there will be a damn jihad, like it or not.

True. The "J" word has been used a lot lately. It's actually a very serious word, only to happen once in a few centuries.

The world's fucking mad. I can see why the BMers want it to end.

Zadok, I'm not wrong. Whatever the arabs have, the Israelis have better versions of. The only advantage the Arabs have is numbers and nothing whatsoever else.

When will people learn that hordes of lowgrade troops =/= one big killing machine?

They may have better versions, but that won't help! The Arab airforce will go in, bomb the shit out of everything whilst keeping the ground forces busy with suicide bombers et al. Sure, the ISraelis may be better informed with Mossad, but if the Arabs are intelligent they can box them in and chip away until they are worn down. And without Sharon Israel will have a hard time surviving anyway.

Okay, let me put it this way:

Arabs: Hey Israel, look, we're kicking the shit out of you!
Israel: Get out of here or we turn Mecca into plateglass.
Arabs: AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

I think I've found their Achilles heel.

Don't under-estimate them! An early strike by them, Israel has no chance. And if they did take out Mecca, that would be it. No peace, ever. Jerusalem gets nuked, Tel Aviv, the lot.

Zadok, you're being obstinate. You think Israel wouldn't nuke Iran first? Israel has enough nukes in their arsenal to completely flatten most of Saudi Arabia and all of Iran with that.

This attack you speak of could have happened at ANY TIME since Israel got nuclear weapons but it HASN'T because the Arabs know exactly what Israel would do if they were cornered: They'd flatten every holy place that the Arabs have to go to. They'd blow up the Dome of the Rock and rebuild the Temple over it.

You think Israel wouldn't NOTICE that the Arab nations were planning to attack? Dude, how insanely stupid do you think Israel is? Or are you just hell-bent on the idea that poor little Israel needs outside help to survive? Because they DON'T. They could make Saudi Arabia into Nagaski II but worse. Radioactive vapors would turn the entire place into a ruin.

You're being silly, Zadok.

I believe Israel may eventually just call an airstrike down on Iran's nuclear facilities like they did with Iraq in the 80s. I don't think they will knowingly allow Iran to develop a bomb.

Suicide bombers alone could take out most, especially kids and women. And heck, they missed it in '73, have they improved since then? Fuck yes.

Israel may have a kick-ass army and intelligence, but without decent leadership, and faced with the combined military might of Islam? It won't be easy.

Besides, if the Arab leadership were smart, they'd call Israel's bluff. Remember the outcry when Sharon visited the Temple mount? Imagine if they demolished it, that would be the jihad of all jihads. World war 3, started like that.

Iran is not Iraq. They're smart, they've buried them in a variety of places. You think they'll stand by and watch? The minute Israel enters their territory, they'll launch. Not to mention the aircraft they'll have defending the sites...

As long as someone is stupid enough to fire a nuke soon..

First off, the Arab armies will NOT unite into a whole, they will stay seperate like they have every time, the only unity they showed was attacking at roughly the same time.

The Palestinians would not cooperate with them because Israel could easily carpet-bomb their home in a few minutes and then go and take out each army individually.

Most of their armies aren't even that large; they'd go around grabbing citizens from the streets and giving them guns to go kill. It wouldn't work, Zadok. Nukes are quite a bargaining point. Mecca and Medina are more important to the muslims then destroying Israel.

1. A Jihad's a Jihad. There's a mind behind all this stuff about the cartoons, they'll be minds behind the taking out of Israel. This Armejed Iranian bloke might just be the middle east's next glorious leader...

2. Hamas. They're really going to lay down and let that happen, aren't they? All very well saying carpet bomb them, but if they do split Jerusalem eventually (which I'm sure they will) that won't be a possibility. They'll attack from inside and outside at once, and wipe them out. Whilst the IDF's off keeping the borders safe, they'll be massacring the women and children back home.

3. If they do what I said above, they won't need nukes. How many launch sites does Israel have? Not enough, I'm telling you. As for the armed citizens, you watch them giving children guns and sending them towards the Israelis. The world will not let them be gunned down! Consider that Israel has already been catigated for it's nukes, they'll paint a picture of Israel as an aggressor. They have far better PR, they'll do it.

Why in the hell, if it was simple Jihad, did they not unite back in 1948?

Because they'll NEVER unite.



So... assuming they'll do something which Israel will not allow to ever happen... Israel will lose.

If some english bloke thought of this, why do you think Israel's leaders haven't thought of this? The above scenario will never, ever happen.



Zad, if the Arabs fart wrong at Israel in this sort of position, voila! The Israelis threaten to nuke Mecca and Medina and every muslim will collectively stop fighting because they aren't THAT STUPID.

Stop being obstinate.