In Flames - Come Clarity (#3154)

Eyesore · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:10 am

nik_lin wrote:

This album may be better than the last 2 but its still a fact that everything in flames has come up with from Clayman and on hasnt been worth the money..

Let's not pretend like you didn't download it, so...talk to the hand, sonny!

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:40 am

Eyesore wrote:

nik_lin wrote:

This album may be better than the last 2 but its still a fact that everything in flames has come up with from Clayman and on hasnt been worth the money..

Let's not pretend like you didn't download it, so...talk to the hand, sonny!

Well, can you blame him ? After Sountrack To Yer Ass Cape I think nobody would rush to get the new album.

Ness · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:54 am

Radical Cut wrote:

metalNESS wrote:

I am raising my score. This album is definitely better if you listen to it with an OPEN mind. There are still some really horrible songs on here though. It sits at 69/100 for me at the moment.

Horrible? Really?

Which ones? I can't remember anything from this album beyond the first four songs for the life of me. The rest is a blur, but not an offensively bad one.

I wouldn't say "offensive." I mean there weren't any songs that offended me, but there were a couple of tracks that were painful to listen to; "Leeches" and "Come Clarity." Eeck!! Horrible tracks. Then there are some less memorable ones, and then there are some really good ones.

nik_lin · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:14 pm **Posts:** 6

Eyesore wrote:

nik_lin wrote:

This album may be better than the last 2 but its still a fact that everything in flames has come up with from Clayman and on hasnt been worth the money..

Let's not pretend like you didn't download it, so...talk to the hand, sonny!

Yep.. I bought all their old CDs, from Lunar Strain to Colony, then after listening to Clayman in a friends place I decided that until they have shaped up I m not buying any more of their CDs

So yes, I download before buying.. And when its crap I never bother to buy it at all.. I m just too lazy to go to the record store and ask to listen to the CD, so kill me. That doesnt mean I dont buy good CDs to support the bands even if i already have it on mp3, so..

One reason why I keep saying its not worth buying is because i dont want anyone reading this review to get suckered into buying this piece of junk. Or, at least I personally wouldnt recommend anyone to buy it.. And definitly not without listening to it first..

Finally I d just like to say that i really love(d) in flames, their old CDs are really great, but try as I might, i just cant enjoy listening to anything they have produced from 2000 and on, and thats really a pity.. Especially considering how great material they used to make..

Eyesore · **Posted:** Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:02 pm

It's a great album. I'm not sure why it's being crapped upon so much. And that's not just because I like it and expect others to like it, but I look at all the complaints about Soundtrack To Your Escape and Reroute To Remain, listen to what everyone claims were "mistakes" and with this album they've actually corrected—if you will—said mistakes. The only thing they haven't done is get rid of the clean singing and gone back to their early style.

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

nik_lin · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:14 pm **Posts:** 6

Eyesore wrote:

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

I agree with you when you say that they have fixed a lot of the things that people didnt like about soundtrack and reroute, but does that mean the CD is good? great?

Just listen to some older songs and the melodies, then compare it to the 'melodies' in their newer tracks.. Knowing what these guys have the potential to produce, how can anyone be satisfied with it? Yes, sure, you can compare it to their latest albums alone if you like, but why? If you know that someone has great talent and skill, why compare with the worst he has produced rather than the best?

And yes, you are right

I would freak out from joy if they released something that sounded like their older albums, because I think they are just so much better.. You are of course free to love their new album, and everyone else too

But to me, it just reminds me of all they used to be that they have willingly thrown away.. Even if it was not in flames who had made this CD I still wouldnt like it much though.. Perhaps just not my style

Eyesore · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:56 am

Yeah, but people change. At 17 I had a mullet, you may have thought that mullet was cool and that I should grow another, but fuck that! I ain't growing that mullet again, that's not me now.

Dudeguy · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:35 am

Eyesore wrote:

Yeah, but people change. At 17 I had a mullet, you may have thought that mullet was cool and that I should grow another, but fuck that! I ain't growing that mullet again, that's not me now.

i think you should find a pic, and make it your avatar

Anonymous · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:05 am

Dudeguy wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

Yeah, but people change. At 17 I had a mullet, you may have thought that mullet was cool and that I should grow another, but fuck that! I ain't growing that mullet again, that's not me now.

i think you should find a pic, and make it your avatar

You listen to emery? they blow.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:25 am

Hahaha. I was 16 years old here, this is the juvenile mullet, the M.I.P. (Mullet In Progress). Hahaha.

Radical Cut · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:19 am **Posts:** 960

Eyesore wrote:

It's a great album. I'm not sure why it's being crapped upon so much. And that's not just because I like it and expect others to like it, but I look at all the complaints about Soundtrack To Your Escape and Reroute To Remain, listen to what everyone claims were "mistakes" and with this album they've actually corrected—if you will—said mistakes. The only thing they haven't done is get rid of the clean singing and gone back to their early style.

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

Well, it's more complicated that just fixing a few missteps, to me anyway.

Some people obviously will always resent IF from moving away from their old style, that's just unavoidable, and certainly not worth arguing a great deal about. There are those who will not accept the new In Flames. So be it.

I recognize that they've made somewhat of an effort to get back on track in some ways, and i do like some of what they accomplished doing that, but overall I just don't think the songwriting is strong enough. I have the same complaint with Clayman, RTR, and STYE, all in varying degrees of course. The songwriting just isn't consistently great and memorable, much of the album blurs and leaves no impression at all. Maybe it's because they're losing it, or maybe I'm just not receptive enough to this style, we can all make our own judgements on that, but that's why I'm not gonna give them album a high score. It just isn't strong enough to warrant either a high score, great amounts of praise, or repeated listens. I don't care that they don't sound like old In Flames anymore, I've come to terms with that, I just wish the new In Flames was up to the same level of quality, and I don't believe it is.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:11 pm

Understood. Word...and stuff.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:49 pm

Radical Cut wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

It's a great album. I'm not sure why it's being crapped upon so much. And that's not just because I like it and expect others to like it, but I look at all the complaints about Soundtrack To Your Escape and Reroute To Remain, listen to what everyone claims were "mistakes" and with this album they've actually corrected—if you will—said mistakes. The only thing they haven't done is get rid of the clean singing and gone back to their early style.

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

Well, it's more complicated that just fixing a few missteps, to me anyway.

Some people obviously will always resent IF from moving away from their old style, that's just unavoidable, and certainly not worth arguing a great deal about. There are those who will not accept the new In Flames. So be it.

I recognize that they've made somewhat of an effort to get back on track in some ways, and i do like some of what they accomplished doing that, but overall I just don't think the songwriting is strong enough. I have the same complaint with Clayman, RTR, and STYE, all in varying degrees of course. The songwriting just isn't consistently great and memorable, much of the album blurs and leaves no impression at all. Maybe it's because they're losing it, or maybe I'm just not receptive enough to this style, we can all make our own judgements on that, but that's why I'm not gonna give them album a high score. It just isn't strong enough to warrant either a high score, great amounts of praise, or repeated listens. I don't care that they don't sound like old In Flames anymore, I've come to terms with that, I just wish the new In Flames was up to the same level of quality, and I don't believe it is.

A very well explained stace, which, by the way, i fully respect because you acknowledge what the band is trying to do but admit just doesn't do it for you. If i may use an analogy: It's like having a prostitute playing with your balls...some people really dig it, but other guys acknowledge the effort and say it just isn't there thing and she should stick to focusing on the saucage... in the end though, you still know she's doing a good job, regardless your preference.

Goat · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:01 pm

Jason@Metalreviews wrote:

Radical Cut wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

It's a great album. I'm not sure why it's being crapped upon so much. And that's not just because I like it and expect others to like it, but I look at all the complaints about Soundtrack To Your Escape and Reroute To Remain, listen to what everyone claims were "mistakes" and with this album they've actually corrected—if you will—said mistakes. The only thing they haven't done is get rid of the clean singing and gone back to their early style.

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

Well, it's more complicated that just fixing a few missteps, to me anyway.

Some people obviously will always resent IF from moving away from their old style, that's just unavoidable, and certainly not worth arguing a great deal about. There are those who will not accept the new In Flames. So be it.

I recognize that they've made somewhat of an effort to get back on track in some ways, and i do like some of what they accomplished doing that, but overall I just don't think the songwriting is strong enough. I have the same complaint with Clayman, RTR, and STYE, all in varying degrees of course. The songwriting just isn't consistently great and memorable, much of the album blurs and leaves no impression at all. Maybe it's because they're losing it, or maybe I'm just not receptive enough to this style, we can all make our own judgements on that, but that's why I'm not gonna give them album a high score. It just isn't strong enough to warrant either a high score, great amounts of praise, or repeated listens. I don't care that they don't sound like old In Flames anymore, I've come to terms with that, I just wish the new In Flames was up to the same level of quality, and I don't believe it is.

A very well explained stace, which, by the way, i fully respect because you acknowledge what the band is trying to do but admit just doesn't do it for you. If i may use an analogy: It's like having a prostitute playing with your balls...some people really dig it, but other guys acknowledge the effort and say it just isn't there thing and she should stick to focusing on the saucage... in the end though, you still know she's doing a good job, regardless your preference.

It's quite frightening the number of team members who use hooker metaphors. Just saying, y' know.

Ness · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:02 pm

Jason@Metalreviews wrote:

Radical Cut wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

It's a great album. I'm not sure why it's being crapped upon so much. And that's not just because I like it and expect others to like it, but I look at all the complaints about Soundtrack To Your Escape and Reroute To Remain, listen to what everyone claims were "mistakes" and with this album they've actually corrected—if you will—said mistakes. The only thing they haven't done is get rid of the clean singing and gone back to their early style.

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

Well, it's more complicated that just fixing a few missteps, to me anyway.

Some people obviously will always resent IF from moving away from their old style, that's just unavoidable, and certainly not worth arguing a great deal about. There are those who will not accept the new In Flames. So be it.

I recognize that they've made somewhat of an effort to get back on track in some ways, and i do like some of what they accomplished doing that, but overall I just don't think the songwriting is strong enough. I have the same complaint with Clayman, RTR, and STYE, all in varying degrees of course. The songwriting just isn't consistently great and memorable, much of the album blurs and leaves no impression at all. Maybe it's because they're losing it, or maybe I'm just not receptive enough to this style, we can all make our own judgements on that, but that's why I'm not gonna give them album a high score. It just isn't strong enough to warrant either a high score, great amounts of praise, or repeated listens. I don't care that they don't sound like old In Flames anymore, I've come to terms with that, I just wish the new In Flames was up to the same level of quality, and I don't believe it is.

A very well explained stace, which, by the way, i fully respect because you acknowledge what the band is trying to do but admit just doesn't do it for you. If i may use an analogy: It's like having a prostitute playing with your balls...some people really dig it, but other guys acknowledge the effort and say it just isn't there thing and she should stick to focusing on the saucage... in the end though, you still know she's doing a good job, regardless your preference.

HAHAH!!! I understand now. It so clear.

Anonymous · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:10 pm

Zad wrote:

Jason@Metalreviews wrote:

Radical Cut wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

It's a great album. I'm not sure why it's being crapped upon so much. And that's not just because I like it and expect others to like it, but I look at all the complaints about Soundtrack To Your Escape and Reroute To Remain, listen to what everyone claims were "mistakes" and with this album they've actually corrected—if you will—said mistakes. The only thing they haven't done is get rid of the clean singing and gone back to their early style.

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

Well, it's more complicated that just fixing a few missteps, to me anyway.

Some people obviously will always resent IF from moving away from their old style, that's just unavoidable, and certainly not worth arguing a great deal about. There are those who will not accept the new In Flames. So be it.

I recognize that they've made somewhat of an effort to get back on track in some ways, and i do like some of what they accomplished doing that, but overall I just don't think the songwriting is strong enough. I have the same complaint with Clayman, RTR, and STYE, all in varying degrees of course. The songwriting just isn't consistently great and memorable, much of the album blurs and leaves no impression at all. Maybe it's because they're losing it, or maybe I'm just not receptive enough to this style, we can all make our own judgements on that, but that's why I'm not gonna give them album a high score. It just isn't strong enough to warrant either a high score, great amounts of praise, or repeated listens. I don't care that they don't sound like old In Flames anymore, I've come to terms with that, I just wish the new In Flames was up to the same level of quality, and I don't believe it is.

A very well explained stace, which, by the way, i fully respect because you acknowledge what the band is trying to do but admit just doesn't do it for you. If i may use an analogy: It's like having a prostitute playing with your balls...some people really dig it, but other guys acknowledge the effort and say it just isn't there thing and she should stick to focusing on the saucage... in the end though, you still know she's doing a good job, regardless your preference.

It's quite frightening the number of team members who use hooker metaphors. Just saying, y' know.

Since 'chick' would have done just fine.. unless we are saying In Flames are a bunch of whores

Anonymous · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:11 pm

Zad wrote:

Jason@Metalreviews wrote:

Radical Cut wrote:

Eyesore wrote:

It's a great album. I'm not sure why it's being crapped upon so much. And that's not just because I like it and expect others to like it, but I look at all the complaints about Soundtrack To Your Escape and Reroute To Remain, listen to what everyone claims were "mistakes" and with this album they've actually corrected—if you will—said mistakes. The only thing they haven't done is get rid of the clean singing and gone back to their early style.

Everything people complained about before is virtually gone on this album, yet people still complain? It's odd. The people who complain about this album only want In Flames to play that old style.

Well, it's more complicated that just fixing a few missteps, to me anyway.

Some people obviously will always resent IF from moving away from their old style, that's just unavoidable, and certainly not worth arguing a great deal about. There are those who will not accept the new In Flames. So be it.

I recognize that they've made somewhat of an effort to get back on track in some ways, and i do like some of what they accomplished doing that, but overall I just don't think the songwriting is strong enough. I have the same complaint with Clayman, RTR, and STYE, all in varying degrees of course. The songwriting just isn't consistently great and memorable, much of the album blurs and leaves no impression at all. Maybe it's because they're losing it, or maybe I'm just not receptive enough to this style, we can all make our own judgements on that, but that's why I'm not gonna give them album a high score. It just isn't strong enough to warrant either a high score, great amounts of praise, or repeated listens. I don't care that they don't sound like old In Flames anymore, I've come to terms with that, I just wish the new In Flames was up to the same level of quality, and I don't believe it is.

A very well explained stace, which, by the way, i fully respect because you acknowledge what the band is trying to do but admit just doesn't do it for you. If i may use an analogy: It's like having a prostitute playing with your balls...some people really dig it, but other guys acknowledge the effort and say it just isn't there thing and she should stick to focusing on the saucage... in the end though, you still know she's doing a good job, regardless your preference.

It's quite frightening the number of team members who use hooker metaphors. Just saying, y' know.

pimpin ain't, pimpin ain't easy man - Ice-T

Goat · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:33 pm

Quote:

pimpin ain't, pimpin ain't easy man - Ice-T

I'll take your word for it.

Quote:

Since 'chick' would have done just fine.. unless we are saying In Flames are a bunch of whores

Roll.

Caligula_K · **Joined:** Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:56 pm **Posts:** 3561

The thing about this album is that it sucks. Not as much as Soundtrack to Your Escape, but it is still sucky in many, many ways. Like somebody said: If this gets a 95/100, what do albums like The Jester Race and Lunar Strain get, albums which are actually good? Quite a hyperbolic rating.

Goat · **Posted:** Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:36 pm

Brahm_K wrote:

The thing about this album is that it sucks. Not as much as Soundtrack to Your Escape, but it is still sucky in many, many ways. Like somebody said: If this gets a 95/100, what do albums like The Jester Race and Lunar Strain get, albums which are actually good? Quite a hyperbolic rating.

Yet looking at it on its own, it's not bad....

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