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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:14 pm 
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A.I.R., Madhouse, and all the other goofy songs they have on it. Armed and Dangerous is a kick ass song though. Gung ho is pretty good and so is Medusa.

And yeah DeadMachine, Neil Turbin's Anthrax is far superior to this craven shit that they started putting out in 85, and when you write such a thing don't write it like it should be dismissed easily, I think I'm totally correct in this respect.


I love "Fistful of Metal"! However, Neil Turbin only helped co-write 4 of the songs on that album. If anything, it was more in the lyrical sense, not the music. So how can you even make a statement that Turbin's work superior? He hardly did anything that made the band what it became on albums to follow? Don't get me wrong, I like his style almost as much as Belladonna's.


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Persistence of Time, is my complete favorite Anthrax album. But I do like this one, too.


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I didnt say Neil Turbin's songs were better, all I said was I liked the Anthrax songs that he sung on better. I don't care who wrote them, all I know is that nothing Anthrax has done has matched the level of song writing or sheer metallic madness that was Fistful of Metal.


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AMONG THE FUCKING LIVING

That's for Zad, seriously, £7 in Music Zone, just get it!


Hmm...maybe. Unless it's uber-technical rifftastic thrash I'm not really interested, nowadays.

And you don't know who Coroner is?

Hop to it!


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Wow I've never heard anyone refer to Anthrax as uber technical riff tastic thrash......I usually lump them into that Goofy Thrash Band that recieved Major Label support and wrote a stupid rap song.

Coroner is uber technical riff tastic thrash, listen to them instead.


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Wow I've never heard anyone refer to Anthrax as uber technical riff tastic thrash......I usually lump them into that Goofy Thrash Band that recieved Major Label support and wrote a stupid rap song.

Coroner is uber technical riff tastic thrash, listen to them instead.


Nah, he meant that he usually prefers technical thrash, which is why he'll probably give Anthrax a miss.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:23 pm 
AIR had, like, THE thrash riff. Tons of 80s thrash bands copied it in one way or another.

Anyway, I agree that Persistence of Time is THE classic 'Thrax album. But of course, opinions are like assholes. Either way, it's good to see a Belladonna-era Anthrax album finally reviewed here.


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AIR had, like, THE thrash riff. Tons of 80s thrash bands copied it in one way or another.

Anyway, I agree that Persistence of Time is THE classic 'Thrax album. But of course, opinions are like assholes. Either way, it's good to see a Belladonna-era Anthrax album finally reviewed here.


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Franz Ferdinand "You Could Have It So Much Better"
(some brainless danceable indie pop/rock again ! I think it's better than their debut)


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Stefan wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
AIR had, like, THE thrash riff. Tons of 80s thrash bands copied it in one way or another.

Anyway, I agree that Persistence of Time is THE classic 'Thrax album. But of course, opinions are like assholes. Either way, it's good to see a Belladonna-era Anthrax album finally reviewed here.


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Franz Ferdinand "You Could Have It So Much Better"
(some brainless danceable indie pop/rock again ! I think it's better than their debut)

Thees craaazee frenchmon knows 'is Anthrax, oui?


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I agree, the best early period Anthrax album is Among The Living. I'd put that, and State Of Euphoria ahead of Spreading The Disease and Persistence Of Time.

I still dont know why they brought Joey Belladonna back for John Bush, even though i did like Joey, i prefered Bush better.

Anyone been to their website lately, the intro is fucking funny and also shows why Among The Living is their best album...you'll see why...

http://www.anthrax.com


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I had no idea that Bush was so popular among Anthrax fans until he was gone. I always just assumed most people were like me in prefering Joey.


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I see it this way. Joey was good for an 80's vocalist. He didnt have the best personal life, they all had issues. But i didnt think Joey had what it took to take Anthrax to the next step. Enter John Bush and their next best album "Sound Of White Noise", which did take Anthrax to the next step. "Stomp 442" was pretty good while "Volume 8" was also good.

The thing i dont get is, why release an album of best of tracks, re-done and with Bush's vocals if they were gonna bring back Belladonna a short time later?


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I see it this way. Joey was good for an 80's vocalist. He didnt have the best personal life, they all had issues. But i didnt think Joey had what it took to take Anthrax to the next step. Enter John Bush and their next best album "Sound Of White Noise", which did take Anthrax to the next step. "Stomp 442" was pretty good while "Volume 8" was also good.

The thing i dont get is, why release an album of best of tracks, re-done and with Bush's vocals if they were gonna bring back Belladonna a short time later?


Various different ways of grabbing cash without going to the bother of writing a new album.

Live album!
Compilation!
Re-recorded compilation!
Reunion tour!
Reunion tour live album!
Reunion tour DVD!

Coming in 2008:
Reunited Anthrax's new album!
Reunited Anthrax's new album tour!
Reunited Anthrax's new album tour live album!

2009: Anthrax and Joey Belladonna part ways due to 'musical differences.' Dan Spitz also departs to open a church in Switzerland.

2010: Anthrax reunite with John Bush!
Reunion tour!
Reunion tour live album!
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:lol:

It seems that way, doesnt it

Woohoo! 600 posts!


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Neil Turbin still, in my opinion, had the best suited voice for Anthrax, he had range and power, and didnt sound like a pussy. Joeys voice is too weak and I never liked John Bush. Neil, however, was a screaming metal madman, and had he stayed in the band I think Anthrax would have made a bigger contribution to metal.


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Anthrax would have made a bigger contribution to metal.


IMO, Anthrax already have made a huge contribution to metal. Bigger than your average popular metal band.

With Turbin, i cant say i agree with you. If Turbin had stayed, Anthrax would not have become as popular and would have stayed a thrash metal band, and would have broken up over a decade ago, cause the thrash scene hardly has any life...well started to die after 1990.

Bush helped steer them in the right direction. I'm so suprised no one has pulled out the ol' "Sell Out" tag on this band. From what we heard from Spreading the Disease to what you heard on Sound Of White Noise and beyond. Dramatic change of metal style....for the better, IMO. Yet no one has called them sellouts.....yet

I consider John Bush to be the Brian Johnson of AC/DC. Bon Scott was good, but was not the man to take them to the next step. And if he were still alive, AC/DC would not be as popular as they are now...or were since Back In Black onwards. I doubt they would stil be together. Johnson saved AC/DC.

I'm not saying Anthrax needed saving, but their change in style moved them up a lot of notches

EDIT: When i say Turbin and Anthrax's sound back then, i also am including Belladonna


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I get the feeling if I'd actually heard more of the Bush-era stuff I'd be calling sell-out. As it happens I've heard only a few songs - songs that didn't encourage me to dig any deeper.

As for Turbin, I like his voice better on certain songs than Joey's, but on the whole he had an inconsistent voice that wouldn't have lasted the band in the long run. I get the feeling if he'd actually kept singing longer than he did in the 80s his voice would eventually given out on him.

Has anyone heard the album he put out in 2003? He's certainly got more control over his voice these days, but the shriekiness is almost gone.


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I don't think "I'm The Man" was ever intended to be taken seriously. It's tongue-in-cheek, but of course, the mainstream world seems to love that shit.

As for this album, great album, but I still feel that Persistence Of Time is their classic album.


Dude, is there anything you DON'T like. Just once I want to see you freak out trash a band for creating utter sh*t like Anthrax did after Among the Living. Come on, you know what it was like going from Spreading the Disease and Among to their next album where they are rapping and wearing all the stupid clothes and acting retarded?

I swear though Man, only you could defend I am the Man. I do respect your open mindedness though.

Actually for once I agree with Holy Terror, their 1st 3 albums are all the contribution they needed to metal, the rest have no impact especially the Bush stuff.


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I don't see the problem with State of Euphoria and Persistance of Time - they kept the stupid shit to the EPs.


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Good album, not a Classic though. As much as I like Anthrax, they don't have an album I would consider a Metal Classic. Even Among the Living doesn't live up to the endless praise it gets. Some of the songs are kind of meh. This band has suffered from an identity crisis from day one, which is a real shame. They have the talent but can never figure out just where they want to go.

People don't accuse of the John Bush era as being a sell-out because they sold considerably less albums and after Stomp completely fell off the radar. The reach for mainstream attention failed miserably.


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