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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:24 am 
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yeah, A Perfect Circle sound similar to Tool because of the personal touches from the band members they share. stuff like Indukti and all this agit-atmospheric rock failed doom bands play comes closer to the actual style of music.

edit: and er, the albums "Discipline" and "THRAK" by King Crimson. kinda dumb of me not to mention those. :P :P


I was waiting for you to mention KC. :D
I'm very sorry I missed KC and Tool's tour a couple years ago.


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Well to get back to the original topic, I got hold of the new single as well. That Meshuggah-like break was a nice surprise, and the last minute was a good conclusion. Sure some parts of the song remind me of Schism but it is still a good track. It has been a long 4 and 1/2 year wait but the hardest part will be these next couple of weeks.
it actually wasn't that long of a wait for me because Lateralus was basically the first album I ever liked ^____^

i like the song, if its the worst on the album then i willb e amazed, if it is average then the album will be great, if is the best i'll be slightly disapointed.


That's cool. Lateralus is a great first album; it is my personal favorite of theirs. I got Aneima about a year after it came out and Lateralus the week it was released. I think the refreshing thing about Tool is the space between albums; my music taste has changed immensely since Aneima and a lot even since Lateralus, but Tool still sounds good to my ears. I'll be willing to bet this track is par for the course compared to the album, maybe even a little on the weak side, because this is the single.


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I have the full album


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Husker wrote:
I have the full album


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they didnt send out promos...


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Husker wrote:
I have the full album


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they didnt send out promos...


then how the fuck am i and other people I'm talking to listening to it? Not to mention the over 1000+ people who have downloaded/downloading it on oink. :|


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This is wrong, but im listening to it and i fell guilty :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


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ok i have mixed felings about the album, vicarious is not indicative of the album so if you like vicarious you may not like the album, and maybe it will grow on me but so far is not better than lateralus....


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here's my review:

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Well 5 years was a lil' long but Tool are back with some good old fashioned tunes that blast apart their proggy wanker image they established with Lateralus. Danny Carry and Justin Chancellor provide some upbeat, complex and overall enjoyable rhythms while Adam Jones shreds his axe like never before in a jaw dropping display of melody and taste. The songs hear are then topped off by Maynard's powerful vocals which never cease to dazzle me with their hooks, emotion and shear enjoyability. Delightfully angry and never pretentious or preachy he just simply gives 'er like never before. Go in feeling however you want, leave with a smile on your face and an energetic kick in your step.They also show their frolickier side with a bit of experimentation but that never detracts from what this album is truly about:

SHRED YOUR AXE MOTHAFUKKA!!!!

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Would those that have heard the album say that 10,000 days is technically "simpler" or is just a different direction from Lateralus?


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Listening to it right now, the riffs have more triplets and more general chugga-chugga than on Lateralus and the time signatures are still complicated. in fact i'm pretty satisfied with the level of complexity and variation, but I'm a Meshuggah fan.

the only thing Vicarious was missing was a good vocal melody line, I hope there's one somewhere on the CD..

edit: didn't find any. also, they're stopped progressing - all they use are the same chord progressions from Lateralus. obviously the time signatures and riffs are different but it's still very noticeable. it's still a great CD but it's alt. metal rather than prog to me.


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lizardtail wrote:
Listening to it right now, the riffs have more triplets and more general chugga-chugga than on Lateralus and the time signatures are still complicated. in fact i'm pretty satisfied with the level of complexity and variation, but I'm a Meshuggah fan.

the only thing Vicarious was missing was a good vocal melody line, I hope there's one somewhere on the CD..

edit: didn't find any. also, they're stopped progressing - all they use are the same chord progressions from Lateralus. obviously the time signatures and riffs are different but it's still very noticeable. it's still a great CD but it's alt. metal rather than prog to me.


Thanks for the response Lizardtail. I was hoping they'd progress more, or at least change after such a long break, but I guess I'll have to be satisfied with more of a Lateralus part II.


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I thought they progressed a lot... pretty much everything besides Vicarious and the song about Pot seemed like stuff Tool hasn't really done before.


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I thought they progressed a lot... pretty much everything besides Vicarious and the song about Pot seemed like stuff Tool hasn't really done before.


Interesting. I guess I will have to wait before I choose sides.


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neutral feelings toward this song...

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emperorblackdoom wrote:
noodles wrote:
I thought they progressed a lot... pretty much everything besides Vicarious and the song about Pot seemed like stuff Tool hasn't really done before.


Interesting. I guess I will have to wait before I choose sides.
well lizardtail has a point that they're using a lot of the same stuff from lateralus, but they're applying them in more experimental ways

or something.


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noodles wrote:
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I thought they progressed a lot... pretty much everything besides Vicarious and the song about Pot seemed like stuff Tool hasn't really done before.


Interesting. I guess I will have to wait before I choose sides.
well lizardtail has a point that they're using a lot of the same stuff from lateralus, but they're applying them in more experimental ways

or something.


Understood. Do you have any idea how this stacks up to Lateralus in your mind yet?


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neutral feelings toward this song...


Are you a fan of their earlier stuff?


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neutral feelings toward this song...


Are you a fan of their earlier stuff?


well, I wouldnt say a fan... I guess neutral feelings towards all TOOL...

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here's an actual review of the album:
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Ah, the new Tool album. Sure to cause some controversy, if not because of the fact that it is Tool, then because the album repeats many of the melodies from Lateralus and shows the band taking an even subdued, proggier side than they had on that phenomenal album. Before hearing it I promised myself I'd listen to it around 5 times before coming to any sort of judgement, and that was probably for the best as my opinion on it changed thusly through the 5 listens:

1st - Meh, disapointed.
2nd - Some cool parts, but lots of bland as well.
3rd - Really good.
4th - Obsession.
5th - Obsession continues.

So... what does 10,000 Days have? Well as I said before it features much more experimentation than any previous Tool album. While they are still fiddling with the same chord progressions as on Lateralus, Tool have developped more complex rhythms and with the except of the single "Vicarious" and perhaps "The Pot" (an interesting blend of Opiate's rockier side with later Tool's inhumanity resulting in something that sounds like a rock song interpreted by aliens) everything sounds refreshingly new.

But new would not simply be enough - this is what threw me off on the first two listens. Besides the interesting/cool/funny "Rosetta Stoned", none of the experimentations on the album grabbed me significantly. It seemed that the main appeal I would find from 10,000 Days would come from only two or three songs.

Oh how that changed.

The title track was the first song to show its true beauty to me: It's tension. It makes Neurosis or Indukti's most powerful moments feel like the tuggings from a toddler who has seen a toy he wants. I don't think any other song has ever given me chills for 11 straight minutes the way "10,000 Days" does.

From there on out it was basically a done deal, I was converted, this album is simply AMAZING and most likely will be my favourite album of 2006, it is certainly the best Tool release yet. Call me a fanboy or whatever (Lateralus was the first album I ever bought), but I was ready to be disapointed and it won me over in the end.


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