Metal Reviews

If there is anything of divinity in the universe, I'd like to think it's the universe itself. I'm such a Pantheist 8)

yes, that sounds acceptable...

It indeed can be full of assholes, and yet I wouldn't have it any other way! Otherwise we wouldn't get such great links to laugh at!

This explains everything.

ha ha lol

The next step for Evolution fans then would be the theory, that each of the 10^124 universes was a random mutation of the original quantum field and the one with the right parameters to enable life was the fittest to survive

A near infinite number of something infinite. How mindfuckingly unnecesarry.

whenever I start thinking about these sort of things, my head starts hurting and I get a strange urge to go play computer games...

On the massively unlikely odds of the universe forming by itself, here's a short story to counterattack (is that the word?) this argument.
Suppose a Lottery ticket is given to every being in the universe, and I happen to win. There's no reason to assume the lottery was rigged in my favour now, is there?

I see what you're saying. The universe just happened to end up the way it has. It had to end up someway, and there's no reason to assume that the way it has is so special.

For example. If I draw a random number from between 1 and 999,999,999, and it happens to be 645, 309, 456, the odds that it would be that number were very unlikely (1 in 999,999,999), but there is nothing exceptional nor odd that it ended up that number.

The only way that would make it exceptional is if I predicted that it would be 645, 309, 456, and it was.

People seem to be stuck in the mindset of the latter example. They see their world, assume it's so great, and expect that this must be the ultimate way it could have turned out. Thus, the odds that it would turn out in such a splended way were really, really low. This is a bad mindset to be in. Our world has its fair share of problems. In truth, the first example is a much better one: a random number was drawn and it just happened to be this one.

Yeah fuck the world. Theres nothing special about this place. Its really a normal thing that it happened to be the way it is, considering the chances were 10^125 to one, its really a normal thing and it happens every day.

The lottery argument against the existence of god should go into books.

i'm still with Jaden on this one...

i'm not quite sure what Mintrude means... if you mean there's unlikely odds of the univers forming itself after the big bang, then wtf?!?!?!... but if you're questioning what triggered the big bang, then " hmm.. good question"


i don't believe planet earth is all that speciel either. There are millions of terrestial planets out there.. we already found one with crappy technology... NASA is planning to build a big motherfucker telescope.. don't think just because we live in the modern world that we have peaked in technology to discover earthlike planets.. we may know more than we did 50 years ago, but we haven't found out all the things there is to know yet. You could have been born on one planet or another.. if you were intelligent enough you would start reflect upon your own existence as well... the lottery example is good example. Are u speciel?!? no, just one lucky motherfucker


and oh!.. while we all at it.. why don't we all start questioning ourselves/ each other why we were born by our parents and not by a lion or a poor family down in africa.


and to ppl who question scientific theories... why don't u become scientists since you all appearently the smartest ppl alive, ha ha 8) u may know the theories, but u don't know the science behind them, do ya?

But dude if you don't question science how are you any better than the people who don't question their holy books and believe everything they're told? We shouldn't turn science into a dogma. I am a skeptic and I question everything but I wouldn't question scientific facts (like the impossibility of the universe forming on its own) but I'm going to pick apart every theory.

you don't question science, you make researches in order to prove that the actual theory/law your attacking is wrong... :roll:

And how is that against anything I said?

And Spinoza agrees with you (and proved it deductively, incidentally)! And thus I do, too!

don't worry Kathy i do "question" science.. not all theories are correct.. god creating the univers is one theory and the big bang is another... when u want to prove a theory scientist usually try to disprove it, good technique... and so far the Big Bang is more or less flawless, even backed up by scientific facts like f.ex. the Cosmic background radiation discovered in the 60's...

but how do you know it's impossible for the univers form on it's own? ( i take that it that you mean pre-big bang?! right? )... do you know the true nature of dark empty space? the nature of nothingness? was it empty space, or nothing at all? imo these questions are too hard to comprehent for mere mortals like u and me.. let ppl like Einstein handle that




btw... the only way i want to use science is to give me certain answers... i hate most science, like those scientist who make mutated combat rats in A1
and then u could always ask yourself, is it better to know all the answers, or is ignorance better... in many ways i think ignorance is better...

There's a lot of scientist theories that were wrong... or that are not proved. But science gives a way of correct these theories, cause all is published and other scientist can prove or expand or correct that... and that's the grandeur of the science.

Science is not a inmutable holy book. Science is in constant evolution.