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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:17 am 
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I'm not gonna deny what I see, you have shown a pretty good example there. Stefan was wrong at that point. However, this is only one example which is from a lot of time ago. I do not think that Stefan is constantly trolling or trying to pick fights with you all the time. I didn't notice anything like that. I think, Stefan was a useful addition to this board, he had a lot of knowledge about music that I used and intended on using even more, and everyobdy loves him so he will be missed. I'm not sure if he's certainly not coming back or he's only pissed so he will take a break. If it's the former than I think you have caused a great loss to this board by your immature behavior.

I'm not willing to start a fight about this. I'm not saying that you are wrong to use moderation in this incident, I'm just saying that the damage is too big and Stefan should come back.

No, Stefan hasn't done this all the time, but he has done it lately. In that Evoken review thread he did it, and he did the same in this thread, and he's constantly done it in the past. In that older thread why did he dredge up something that was a dead issue? In fact, when you abandoned the Evoken thread why was I then arguing with two other people, one being Stefan, when it was initially between you and I? In this thread, why was it Stefan that was speaking for Misha? Why was the crusade lead by Stefan? Because I asked why he didn't buy Fruity Loops? Holy shit! Now that is a FLAMEWAR starter!! Fruity Loops...so antagonizing. What a fool I am!

I've stated in the past that I have no issues with Stefan. For the record I have no issues with you or Zad, but when I am challenged you'd better believe that I'm going to man-up and not allow someone to talk unjust bullshit. That is not a moderator talking. You can comment on my little image that I edited over his posts, but the problem is far bigger than that. He left not because I posted that stupid image but because the board isn't fun for him when he's not in control. It's stupid to argue on the net, I agree, but I love this messageboard and I want to discuss music. I'm not interested in arguing, but when someone talks nonsense you'd better expect me to be on the frontlines. Stefan picked fights with me over the past few days for no reason. It was intentional and his purpose was clear, I know some of you dislike me and like him, but that's no reason to sit there and blindly take sides when his own words prove him to be in the wrong. I don't pick fights with people, but I do defend myself.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:18 am 
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What the fuck?

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Godfucking damn it! Why must this board erupt in e-drama approximately every month and a half?


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Godfucking damn it! Why must this board erupt in e-drama approximately every month and a half?

Someone has an irregular menstrual cycle?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:19 am 
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I certainly know who had an irregular menstrual cycle the other day. I do agree that Stefan was being an asshole lately, look at Ken's quotes of T.I.E. on that matter (hey, T.I.E. that name rings a bell, didn't he use that like a year ago?). Ken seems to want to throw up a shitload of arguments to right himself, he doesn't need to do that for me, I don't care about his arguments. I don't even care about Stefan not being here anymore, I have as much contact with him as I want via MSN, and I'm largely out of here as well in a month or two. I'm not the one to worry, though I'm sure other people aren't really fond of losing a poster whose Google-knowledge (according to Ken) exceeded almost all of us here.


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Come on everything Stefan said had winks on it, how can you take it so seriously?


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I certainly know who had an irregular menstrual cycle the other day. I do agree that Stefan was being an asshole lately, look at Ken's quotes of T.I.E. on that matter (hey, T.I.E. that name rings a bell, didn't he use that like a year ago?). Ken seems to want to throw up a shitload of arguments to right himself, he doesn't need to do that for me, I don't care about his arguments. I don't even care about Stefan not being here anymore, I have as much contact with him as I want via MSN, and I'm largely out of here as well in a month or two. I'm not the one to worry, though I'm sure other people aren't really fond of losing a poster whose Google-knowledge (according to Ken) exceeded almost all of us here.


A-fucking-men.

It seemed to me that Stefan left, not because Ken acted the fucktard and edited his post, but because Ken can never admit that he's right. I think assuming that Misha was unmusical and just wanted to make simple beats was pretty condescending on Ken's part, hence Stefan's reaction.

What the hell is it about some people? They make comments, take them beyond a joke, and then refuse to see that they've done wrong.

Eg:
Ken: The artwork forum no longer exists because of Zad.
Zad: Hey!
Ken: Stop making arguments, asshole!

And is it me, or has the forum gone downhill from the day that Ken became a mod? All the best posters gradually leave until what are we left with? MetalReviews isn't the place it was when I joined, the place I wanted to spend so much time at, the place that took me from being a Rage Against The Machine-worshipping n00b to the Metalhead I am today. It's not the place I wanted to join as a reviewer, but got turned down because forumites are treated like kids here.

So what the fuck are we left with? Can anyone tell me that?


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Jebus christ.

Stefan is a very good e-friend of mine but I can understand why Ken was annoyed at him. The Fruity Loops (whatever the fuck that is- a breakfast cereal?) enquiry didn't really merit the ridicule that it received. But then, why in God's name is it that every argument we have nowadays revolves around Ken? There has to be a lot more at work here than just people picking on Eyesore, regardless of how skilled he is at defending himself. No smoke without fire and all that...

Aagh, Zad's right. I love to argue, and I love to watch others argue, but all this is just getting to drama queen. Makes me long for the days when we just argued about politics all the time.


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Jebus christ.

Stefan is a very good e-friend of mine but I can understand why Ken was annoyed at him. The Fruity Loops (whatever the fuck that is- a breakfast cereal?) enquiry didn't really merit the ridicule that it received. But then, why in God's name is it that every argument we have nowadays revolves around Ken? There has to be a lot more at work here than just people picking on Eyesore, regardless of how skilled he is at defending himself. No smoke without fire and all that...

Aagh, Zad's right. I love to argue, and I love to watch others argue, but all this is just getting to drama queen. Makes me long for the days when we just argued about politics all the time.


You mean you and me argued about politics. :wink: I don't think anyone else other than Valefor ever seemed interested...


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Stefan did start and revive flame wars, no matter how much musical knowledge he had etc.

he wasn't banned, either, so if he's not posting it's because he doesn't want to.

(oddly enough, the thread most likely to have flamewars, the footie thread, is almost dead, flame-wise)

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Couldn't have said it better Zad, my feelings exactly. Agreed with Rio as well.


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Can we just bring Stefan back and pretend like this never happened? Misha, you're the closest to him, talk to him and bring him back bro, this is going to hurt the forum a lot.


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Kathaarian wrote:
Can we just bring Stefan back and pretend like this never happened? Misha, you're the closest to him, talk to him and bring him back bro, this is going to hurt the forum a lot.


Something tells me it ain't going to happen. Re-read Misha's posts above...


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Kathaarian wrote:
Can we just bring Stefan back and pretend like this never happened? Misha, you're the closest to him, talk to him and bring him back bro, this is going to hurt the forum a lot.

If he's going to be back, it's because Ken appologized, and it's not for long.


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Can we just bring Stefan back and pretend like this never happened? Misha, you're the closest to him, talk to him and bring him back bro, this is going to hurt the forum a lot.


Something tells me it ain't going to happen. Re-read Misha's posts above...


Crap.


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A lot of why I come here will go with Stefan and Misha. Doubt whether I'll bother returning after that, either.


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Oh christ.

It was Steve's fault. Look at the messages.

Steve is being silly.


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Oh christ.

It was Steve's fault. Look at the messages.

Steve is being silly.


I wrote:
I think assuming that Misha was unmusical and just wanted to make simple beats was pretty condescending on Ken's part, hence Stefan's reaction.


Ken's reaction was wrong.


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But Steve WAS being a messageboard fucktard. He always incites flamewars- I've seen it myself. This is just another instance. Maybe Ken's thoughts were silly upon examination, but why bother insulting him?


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If anyone should be annoyed by this it's me. Since when did 'doing a Zad' become part of board language?

It's not just this thread, Aaron. All over the board it's like this. Ken will not stop.

And what's with the 'you'd better start saluting' shit? Is that really what the board is headed towards? It's already split down the fucking middle, it's not going to take much to wrench it apart completely.


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