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If you got invaded three times, you'd be within your rights to occupy land. I'm not saying it's right...

Nah, Yids is alright. We use it ourselves.

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It's not MY reasoning. It's the reasoning that the powers that be have operated under for centuries. I didn't say it was right, but it is how the world is. Darfdur gets little to no media exposure, but bet your ass, if those where white Christians, you'd hear about it non-stop. I just choose to see things for how they really are, and not how I WISH they were.

You're right. But I don't agree that the media is on Israel's side, though. Right Republican Americans may be, but in Europe it's pretty heavy pro-Palestinian.

yeah.. but hey! it's not a big surprise to get invaded when you just stole other ppl's country, is it? Doesn't matter if the Jewish state was created by FN. FN didn't own the country did they? and how can it be the arab's problem, who already lived there, if jews wanted a place to stay for themselves?

and yes, Isreal has kill far more than 10.000 ppl from the time the country was established till now, the biggest losses is not on the Israeli side. Of course, now a days many of them are Hamas Leaders they have quite a few, either that or it's quite easy to achive a leaderposition, so screw Mac Donalds if you want to be a leader easy and quick.




Comparison:

54 Israelis were killed in Palestinian militant attacks in and 406 injured 2005
255 Palestinians died and 993 were injured in 2005

Here's a death toll list:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4294502.stm




http://www.palestinercs.org/crisistable ... igures.htm some more figures.

Of course, to be fair.. there's nothing that clearly show how many of the palestinians who were civilians and combatants


anywho.. this is just the death tolls for the period over 5 years... so... if you we add the last year( 06 ) the deathtoll reaches 3,950
on the palestinian side

This is where your argument fails. The IDF has to protect Israelis, and if this means killing combatants, so be it.



Read what Kayla said a few pages back.

indeed.. but IDF also shoots many innocent ppl because many of the soldiers are retarded, and they tread palestian civilians who wants to go the sacred cities like batshit, so i don't think my argument fails. Besides my point was that Isreal had killed more than 10.000 including the invasion on Libanon.. i win! ^^

They treat them like shit because they suspect them of being suicide bombers.

And in Lebanon, more were killed by the Lebanese Xtians than the IDF, so you don't win.

okay, i'll go eat a cookie then :roll:



( i still think i won)


first of all, when you target a moving car with explosives you get 2-4 combatants but far more civilians.

second of all, it's not only about casulties, what about 1.000.000+ ppl who have been driven from their homes from the time Israel was established? either because they fleed or got their homes smashed.

And how many people do you kill with a suicide bomb? Exactly.

You've got a point, and there's not much I can say on the matter without sounding selfish, but enough Jews have been displaced throughout the years to make this seem petty. I know, I know.

i take it that your " i know, i know" is an indication of you know what my response would be.

so we both win .. in a way


anywho... how would u suggest the problem should be solved, in order to make peace and order and make both parts come out as winners?

Unfortuanately, yes.

Either ban religion, or make intermarriage compulsary. Neither'll ever happen, though.

Luckily so (in the grand scheme of things).

All those repressed Jewish girls will have to stick to knitting, I suppose.

Well I've used that user name for basically everything since I was 16. All my accounts are under that name. I guess it gotta stuck with me.

In a war like this, there are no civilians. (Guess who I quoted there.)

Bush?

Me. I said that.