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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:40 pm 
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All well and good, Ken, except one little point: when I applied to be a reviewer, I was also left hanging, and it took a lot of pestering to get Mike to say that they "were keeping the team as it was at the moment". Then a week or so later Kayla and Misha join...

It took a bit of digging, but eventually I was told off-the-record, that a certain member of the team didn't want me on, because I agreed once with Valefor or something equally stupid. I'm past caring, frankly, but 1) I would appreciate being told the truth and 2) people do get left hanging. And the attitude towards the forumites is disgraceful.

Generally when people are to become reviewers it is discussed among the team. No decision is made until everyone weighs in. I can go back on the Yahoo! page and read e-mails discussing me becoming a reviewer if I wanted to. That happened with you. It's not a quick process. I didn't get to be a reviewer right away, you know. It took a while. Plus, when you applied there were more people reviewing.

Now it's a little different as virtually every reviewer but Alex, Mike, Kayla, Jeff, Marty and myself has simply fallen off the face of the earth. Unfortunately Kaath caught Mike at a time when MR wasn't a priority, and that's understandable.

If a team member didn't like you, or didn't want you on the team, I am sorry. Misha was not really voted back in, one reviewer pretty much stepped up to the plate for him and everyone trusted his judgement.


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All well and good, Ken, except one little point: when I applied to be a reviewer, I was also left hanging, and it took a lot of pestering to get Mike to say that they "were keeping the team as it was at the moment". Then a week or so later Kayla and Misha join...

It took a bit of digging, but eventually I was told off-the-record, that a certain member of the team didn't want me on, because I agreed once with Valefor or something equally stupid. I'm past caring, frankly, but 1) I would appreciate being told the truth and 2) people do get left hanging. And the attitude towards the forumites is disgraceful.

Generally when people are to become reviewers it is discussed among the team. No decision is made until everyone weighs in. I can go back on the Yahoo! page and read e-mails discussing me becoming a reviewer if I wanted to. That happened with you. It's not a quick process. I didn't get to be a reviewer right away, you know. It took a while. Plus, when you applied there were more people reviewing.

Now it's a little different as virtually every reviewer but Alex, Mike, Kayla, Jeff, Marty and myself has simply fallen off the face of the earth. Unfortunately Kaath caught Mike at a time when MR wasn't a priority, and that's understandable.

If a team member didn't like you, or didn't want you on the team, I am sorry. Misha was not really voted back in, one reviewer pretty much stepped up to the plate for him and everyone trusted his judgement.


I can't blame you for it, unfortuanately. Still, as I said, I've moved on. Probably should have made more of an issue of it at the time, but I was protecting a confidante.


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Whatever. If you want to know why I started talking shit about you, here's the reason, you annoyed me. You pushed my buttons by accusing me of being disrespectful to a guy that I have a lot of respect for. So I started talking shit about you. It is just like the time I went and punched a guy's face in because he was talking shit about me. I know what he did was just talk, but I kicked his ass anyway. Same situation happened in that thread. I know you understand my motive very well, since you are squirting testosterone all over this board.

So you e-kicked my ass? :shock: :lol: :lol: Dude, you WERE disrespecting him. How can you deny that?

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Stop exaggerating everything. Of course he wouldn't drop his personal errands to make me a reviewer. I'm not the spoiled brat you think I am. But in the months that I had been waiting to hear from him he logged in to the site once in a while, I saw his name. He submitted reviews. So he wasn't out of the site completely. I knew he was busy and he told me the reason, but in those times that he did log in to the site he could have taken 2 seconds to say "I know we're keeping you waiting, sorry". I didn't even whine about it directly, I waited patiently for a long time, and when I said when I said one little thing that showed how upset I am, you fell down on me like a ton of bricks.

No, I didn't fall on you like a ton of bricks. I nicely explained the reason and I questioned why you would be so rude. The thing is that you KNEW you were being rude and disrespectful and you got called out and THAT pissed you off. If you not being rude and disrespectful you wouldn't have reacted that way. I hurt your pride or whatever. As for Mike saying anything to you, did you say anything to him? Did he have a PM waiting? He's been coming here to delete spammers and porn accounts! Did he have a PM message from you popping up when he logged in? Or could his PM box simply not been something he was thinking about? Two-way street, you know?

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I didn't even whine about it. I could have whined all that time for months, but I never did. I just stated one simple thing that showed my dissapointment, and it wasn't even directly about my situation. You guys are not gods you know. Aren't we entitled to say one negative thing about this site?

Of course you are entitled, but I think before publicly saying something like you could have done more to inquire about the situation with Mike. You also could have replied something like this to me in that thread instead of jumping me with insults. That would have saved us from a whole lot of subsequent drama.

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All in all I still respect Mike and love this site. I still don't think I disrespected him, but I apologise if he thinks I did so. I have no desire left to become a reviewer here anyway, I started collecting my shit to apply to another site to become a reviewer a while ago.

Thanks to Mike anyway, for thinking that I'm reviewer material. I'm sorry things turned out this way. I hope he doesn't hate me and can understand my motive behind those words.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:54 pm 
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And by the way, I noted in one of my first few posts, I asked Ken to answer to me in personal messages. He didn't, and kept talking about me on public. This whole drama could have been avioded if Ken accepted my request to take this fight into private, to avoid what happened.

Ken, you are more guilty than me or anyone else that things turned out the way they did. All you had to do was pm me, and this whole thing would be avoided, and other guys wouldn't jump in to criticize you afterwards, because we could have settled it and then we could tell everyone not to scratch the wound.

Pffft! Regardless of whether I didn't PM you or not at one point the conversation was over. Those people jumped in then. A PM would have helped nothing. And no I am not more to blame. How ridiculous is that notion?

Guy #1: Hey, fuck you faggot! No one likes you?
Guy #2: Why the fuck would you say that?
Guy #1: Because you're an asshole, no one likes you and your shitty writings!
Guy #2: WTF? Fuck you, motherfucker!!
Guy #1: Take it to PM.
Guy #2: Eat shit.
Guy #1: Why are you starting fights, dude?

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Exactly. He is the one always claiming he is the only decent poster here, the boards saviour, blah blah blah, yet every second thread gets fucked up because he gets into a flamewar.

:shock: :lol:

When the hell have I ever said that?

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And Ken, DONT say its Zad or Stefans fault, because no matter who is fighting, its always YOU against them!

But who started it? Who started this thread? Me?

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And then he mods threads so he is the winner..............cant we just talk about music......even the flamewars have nothing to do with music.... :roll:

No. I moderated a few replies of Stefan's, replies that remained because other people quoted them. I deleted one thread because it had become worthless. Moderating to win would not be deleting a thread because at that point everything is gone. I moderated to get rid of a shitty thread. I moderated Stefan because it was necessary. I've been a mod here for like 9 months now and I've NEVER moderated shit. So continue making nonsensical claims.

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Did anyone notice that in the thread ken told zad and stef to stop fighting other peoples battles?? quite ironic concidering ken was doing the same for mike :lol:

Wrong again. I wasn't fighting a battle for Mike, I was giving Kaath a reason why Mike hadn't got back to him. I was trying to help Kaath out with his displeasure, giving him a reason as to why Mike didn't get back to him. It was no fight at that point. When he jumped on me I was then fighting for myself.

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Ken, I don't accuse you of flamewars, I don't mind flamewars in Helheim and I'll gladly contribute to them. You can't accuse me of trying to start this war all over again, because you do the same thing with every post you place. Stu said it best, we're indeed covering Kathy, but you're covering for Mike. I don't mind that you're a fucktard, every board needs one, to keep things interesting. I also do not mind that exactly this board fucktard is the moderator. BUT I DO FUCKING MIND THAT YOU ONLY MODERATE THE DISCUSSIONS YOU'RE IN, TO COVER YOUR OWN ASS! If I were Kathy, I would have been DAMN pissed as well, you've called him a bad reviewer and unworthy numerous times. And then even when people who don't really know any of us, like RvN, say "Wow, this Ken is being a complete idiot, get real" then you delete all of it and suppose we're ok with that? The lodical answer is this thread.

First, I don't start flamewars in every post I make. That's bullshit. I don't start threads directly attacking other people! I simply respond in kind when those do that to me. Second, I don't moderate to cover my ass. Quit making shit up. I deleted ONE THREAD that needed to be deleted. I edited three posts that were still on the board. I don't need to cover my ass, you have no ground to shout your nonsense from. I've NEVER called Kaath a bad reviewer and unworthy! NEVER! Maybe you're mistaking his words directed at me. What I hate most is people who will flat out deny something that is RIGHT IN THEIR FACE! Someone like RvN coming in and talking shit on a subject that he clearly knew dick about deserves to get deleted. Sorry.

Your motives here, Misha, are unjustified. Move on to your own site, leave this one. We all know what's coming in the next few weeks, or month or so: COME VISIT MY NEW REVIEW SITE AND MESSAGEBOARD! IT'S BETTER THAN THIS ONE.


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Just to be the DA, if K applied again would it be likely that he would get the job?


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Sorry for all the replies, I'm on a different shift than most. :lol:


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Your motives here, Misha, are unjustified. Move on to your own site, leave this one. We all know what's coming in the next few weeks, or month or so: COME VISIT MY NEW REVIEW SITE AND MESSAGEBOARD! IT'S BETTER THAN THIS ONE.


Misha hasn't mentioned that ONCE in this thread. Stop being paranoid, you Jew.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:28 pm 
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
Just to be the DA, if K applied again would it be likely that he would get the job?

No idea. Not up to me.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:28 pm 
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Your motives here, Misha, are unjustified. Move on to your own site, leave this one. We all know what's coming in the next few weeks, or month or so: COME VISIT MY NEW REVIEW SITE AND MESSAGEBOARD! IT'S BETTER THAN THIS ONE.

Misha hasn't mentioned that ONCE in this thread. Stop being paranoid, you Jew.

No shit. I said it's coming soon to a thread near you.


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Your motives here, Misha, are unjustified. Move on to your own site, leave this one. We all know what's coming in the next few weeks, or month or so: COME VISIT MY NEW REVIEW SITE AND MESSAGEBOARD! IT'S BETTER THAN THIS ONE.

Misha hasn't mentioned that ONCE in this thread. Stop being paranoid, you Jew.

No shit. I said it's coming soon to a thread near you.


But that's not what this thread was about. The way you're going on, anyone would think he had...
Anyway, go check out Adastreia.


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First, I don't start flamewars in every post I make. That's bullshit. I don't start threads directly attacking other people! I simply respond in kind when those do that to me. Second, I don't moderate to cover my ass.

Well, I didn't say you start flamewars in every post, I say you keep it living in every reply to one. And so do I at this moment. You keep saying "he started, he started" well that's a valid thing to say, but a flamewar never consists out of one post, if needs yours as well. I could have made 10 flamewars out of your sarcastic replies to my reviews, yet I didn't. Sometimes I leave things alone that are directed at me, you don't. Everyone contributing to the flamewar is guilty of the fact that there is one. And maybe you didn't make a new thread like I did, but how the fuck am I supposed to reply if some "modpowers protect me!"-asshole deleted the thread so that everyone forgets or he can say "I didn't say that" without anyone being able to look it up.
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Quit making shit up. I deleted ONE THREAD that needed to be deleted. I edited three posts that were still on the board. I don't need to cover my ass, you have no ground to shout your nonsense from. I've NEVER called Kaath a bad reviewer and unworthy! NEVER! Maybe you're mistaking his words directed at me. What I hate most is people who will flat out deny something that is RIGHT IN THEIR FACE! Someone like RvN coming in and talking shit on a subject that he clearly knew dick about deserves to get deleted. Sorry.

Your motives here, Misha, are unjustified. Move on to your own site, leave this one. We all know what's coming in the next few weeks, or month or so: COME VISIT MY NEW REVIEW SITE AND MESSAGEBOARD! IT'S BETTER THAN THIS ONE.

That won't happen, know why? Because I might risk bringing fucktards like you over.


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First, I don't start flamewars in every post I make. That's bullshit. I don't start threads directly attacking other people! I simply respond in kind when those do that to me. Second, I don't moderate to cover my ass.

Well, I didn't say you start flamewars in every post, I say you keep it living in every reply to one. And so do I at this moment. You keep saying "he started, he started" well that's a valid thing to say, but a flamewar never consists out of one post, if needs yours as well. I could have made 10 flamewars out of your sarcastic replies to my reviews, yet I didn't. Sometimes I leave things alone that are directed at me, you don't. Everyone contributing to the flamewar is guilty of the fact that there is one. And maybe you didn't make a new thread like I did, but how the fuck am I supposed to reply if some "modpowers protect me!"-asshole deleted the thread so that everyone forgets or he can say "I didn't say that" without anyone being able to look it up.
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Quit making shit up. I deleted ONE THREAD that needed to be deleted. I edited three posts that were still on the board. I don't need to cover my ass, you have no ground to shout your nonsense from. I've NEVER called Kaath a bad reviewer and unworthy! NEVER! Maybe you're mistaking his words directed at me. What I hate most is people who will flat out deny something that is RIGHT IN THEIR FACE! Someone like RvN coming in and talking shit on a subject that he clearly knew dick about deserves to get deleted. Sorry.

Your motives here, Misha, are unjustified. Move on to your own site, leave this one. We all know what's coming in the next few weeks, or month or so: COME VISIT MY NEW REVIEW SITE AND MESSAGEBOARD! IT'S BETTER THAN THIS ONE.

That won't happen, know why? Because I might risk bringing fucktards like you over.


I'm gonna sign onto your forums as 'Fucktard' now.


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Eyesore wrote:
First, I don't start flamewars in every post I make. That's bullshit. I don't start threads directly attacking other people! I simply respond in kind when those do that to me. Second, I don't moderate to cover my ass.

Well, I didn't say you start flamewars in every post, I say you keep it living in every reply to one. And so do I at this moment. You keep saying "he started, he started" well that's a valid thing to say, but a flamewar never consists out of one post, if needs yours as well. I could have made 10 flamewars out of your sarcastic replies to my reviews, yet I didn't. Sometimes I leave things alone that are directed at me, you don't. Everyone contributing to the flamewar is guilty of the fact that there is one. And maybe you didn't make a new thread like I did, but how the fuck am I supposed to reply if some "modpowers protect me!"-asshole deleted the thread so that everyone forgets or he can say "I didn't say that" without anyone being able to look it up.
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Quit making shit up. I deleted ONE THREAD that needed to be deleted. I edited three posts that were still on the board. I don't need to cover my ass, you have no ground to shout your nonsense from. I've NEVER called Kaath a bad reviewer and unworthy! NEVER! Maybe you're mistaking his words directed at me. What I hate most is people who will flat out deny something that is RIGHT IN THEIR FACE! Someone like RvN coming in and talking shit on a subject that he clearly knew dick about deserves to get deleted. Sorry.

Your motives here, Misha, are unjustified. Move on to your own site, leave this one. We all know what's coming in the next few weeks, or month or so: COME VISIT MY NEW REVIEW SITE AND MESSAGEBOARD! IT'S BETTER THAN THIS ONE.

That won't happen, know why? Because I might risk bringing fucktards like you over.


I'm gonna sign onto your forums as 'Fucktard' now.


*makes note*


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Zad-Ban
Eyesore-stripped from mod status and Banned
Misha-told to follow through with his threat of leaving and then banned.

Any other site, and these things would have happened a long time ago. You should feel blessed.

Don't think so? Go register at another board, and try conducting this pathetic display of "He Said/She Said" "But I'm right guys.I really, really, really am. Scouts honor" and see how long you last. Five minutes tops.


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Eternal Idol wrote:
Zad-Ban
Eyesore-stripped from mod status and Banned
Misha-told to follow through with his threat of leaving and then banned.

Any other site, and these things would have happened a long time ago. You should feel blessed.

Don't think so? Go register at another board, and try conducting this pathetic display of "He Said/She Said" "But I'm right guys.I really, really, really am. Scouts honor" and see how long you last. Five minutes tops.


Any other site, you'd have been banned ages ago for going off at Chris that time. This 'you all suck' persona a few people have going is really cool.


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Eternal Idol wrote:
Zad-Ban
Eyesore-stripped from mod status and Banned
Misha-told to follow through with his threat of leaving and then banned.

Any other site, and these things would have happened a long time ago. You should feel blessed.

Don't think so? Go register at another board, and try conducting this pathetic display of "He Said/She Said" "But I'm right guys.I really, really, really am. Scouts honor" and see how long you last. Five minutes tops.


Any other site, you'd have been banned ages ago for going off at Chris that time. This 'you all suck' persona a few people have going is really cool.


Considereing Chris never said a word to me about it, I highly doubt it.


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Well, I didn't say you start flamewars in every post, I say you keep it living in every reply to one. And so do I at this moment. You keep saying "he started, he started" well that's a valid thing to say, but a flamewar never consists out of one post, if needs yours as well. I could have made 10 flamewars out of your sarcastic replies to my reviews, yet I didn't. Sometimes I leave things alone that are directed at me, you don't.

Sarcastic replies in your reviews? There is a difference between playful sarcasm that is present throughout the entire board and perpetrated by everyone and flat out rudeness intended to cause friction, my friend.

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Everyone contributing to the flamewar is guilty of the fact that there is one. And maybe you didn't make a new thread like I did, but how the fuck am I supposed to reply if some "modpowers protect me!"-asshole deleted the thread so that everyone forgets or he can say "I didn't say that" without anyone being able to look it up.

You don't reply! Isn't that the point? You're suggesting in one breath that people should walk away and ignore something, then in the next breath you're arguing that removing that which causes the problem shouldn't be removed? Are you making sense? You're arguing both sides of the coin here! I deleted that thread and that was it! There was no agenda so I could make things up! It was over. YOU brought it up again. Not me. Get real, buddy.

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That won't happen, know why? Because I might risk bringing fucktards like you over.

So mature. I read all your words when Chris was questioning your motives. You're reviewing here not for metalreviews.com, but for your upcoming site. You will plug it, you already are. I could care less about your site, I don't like your music, why would I go there?

Shall we continue this dance?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:38 pm 
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Eyesore-stripped from mod status and Banned

Doubtful. Mods get away with far more on other sites. Editing Stefan's replies was the worst I've ever done and the editing wasn't an issue, I probably put too much emphasis on the word fucktard, but that's a minor infraction at worst.

All my words are quite civil considering. The funny thing is, in the past I have said something over and over again and people argue it, only to have Mike come in, say the same thing, and everyone goes: Yeah, I can see that. :roll:


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