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The difference to what? I don't understand the question. Clarify and I'll explain (and wtfpwn you out of sight :wink: ).


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The difference to what? I don't understand the question. Clarify and I'll explain (and wtfpwn you out of sight :wink: ).


What you find funny I, or someone else, might find highly offensive, whether it's the holocaust or sexual assault. What's the difference whether it's the former or latter in terms of offense caused?


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Oh. Well that's really got nothing to do with what I repsonded to originally.

I didn't say you had to find it funny, I said no amount of nose-turning up on your part was going to make me feel inadequate for having laughed at it.

What about all your 'xtian' buddies that take offence to the Jerry Springer opera, I take you agree with them that no one should take enjoyment out of something that they find offensive?


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Oh. Well that's really got nothing to do with what I repsonded to originally.

I didn't say you had to find it funny, I said no amount of nose-turning up on your part was going to make me feel inadequate for having laughed at it.

What about all your 'xtian' buddies that take offence to the Jerry Springer opera, I take you agree with them that no one should take enjoyment out of something that they find offensive?


You don't need me to make you feel inadequate, dear. You're more than capable...

I have no xtian buddies. Well, maybe one. And of course, there'll always be something that someone is offended by, I never said the prats in the thing above should be stopped, just that I didn't find it very funny.


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Oh. Well that's really got nothing to do with what I repsonded to originally.

I didn't say you had to find it funny, I said no amount of nose-turning up on your part was going to make me feel inadequate for having laughed at it.

What about all your 'xtian' buddies that take offence to the Jerry Springer opera, I take you agree with them that no one should take enjoyment out of something that they find offensive?


You don't need me to make you feel inadequate, dear. You're more than capable...

I have no xtian buddies. Well, maybe one. And of course, there'll always be something that someone is offended by, I never said the prats in the thing above should be stopped, just that I didn't find it very funny.

And that's the difference - I'm not trying to make you find it funny, but you seem pretty intent on having those who did change their minds or at least feel low about it.


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Let's remember that the bukkake is a ritual often used in that country.


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Radagast wrote:
And that's the difference - I'm not trying to make you find it funny, but you seem pretty intent on having those who did change their minds or at least feel low about it.


Why shouldn't you feel low? Some things are even funnier when there's a bit of guilt involved. If you're that defensive about it, there must be something wrong, no?


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I just think the gag is a bit facile is all.

she caught it in teh facile lol


:lol:

Something more deserving of a lol than the video, anyway.

The jizz is probably fake, the girl is probably an actress... Maybe some of the younger people here had absolutely no idea that this kind of thing went on in real life so I could understand why they would at least find it interesting...

Anyway if it is real I'm not afraid to admit I feel sorry for the poor girl because it's the kind of thing that would fuck you up. (Oh noes rio ist sensitive wot a fag!!!!11!)


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Let's remember that the bukkake is a ritual often used in that country.


Yes birthdays and New Years are times for the whole family to get together for some bukkake bonding.


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Let's remember that the bukkake is a ritual often used in that country.


Yeah you walk down the street in Japan and people are just constantly doing the bukkake ritual in the open.


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rio wrote:
I just think the gag is a bit facile is all.


It is probably fake and a setup anyways, they always do fake cum shit and stuff in Japan just to make sensitive Fem-Males whine about sexism. lol

And to amuse the juvenile pigs? :roll:


Hey the US isn't Japan, what they find funny you might find offensive. Some of the things you do on a daily basis I am sure would offend them. The world is a big place.


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You know guys, that "I am a sesitive man" bullshit only works when you are young. Women, once they get past about 22 or 23, they know you are just spouting bullshit to make them feel good and think you are a liar if you give them bullshit lines like "That is sexist" or "I don't like porn becaue it demeans women" or similiar crap you guys are spewing. Either that or they will think you are pussy. Trust me on that, let go, don't let Oprah dictate your life and embrace your roots, you will do bettr off in the long run.

This is a Metal site, isn't their like Emo or Avenged Sevefold chat rooms you all can go and puss yourselves to women at?

"Should I accompany this rant with a smile so I am not assaulted by 17 year old Virgins?"

I bow to your expertise on women. Truly, you have shattered all my silly, mistaken notions about the female gender. Oh, how wrong I was, to assume that the woman in the video only reacted in the way she did because of her cultural programming. No, it's obviously because women enjoy being sexually assaulted. My mistake.

Just to make sure we're 100% crystal clear on how very much sarcasm that contained, I will say that if anyone did that to me, I would rip his balls off and kick him in the face. Repeatedly. Until he died.


You listen to Metal, easily the most homophobic, misogynist, sexist, male dominated sub culture around, yet an obvious faked jizz shot freaks you out?

For Japan that is mild anyways. I am surpised it wasn't part of a daily sitcom over there.

Who are you to say their culture or their cultural programming is wrong? It isn't your country, or your culture.

Of course I don't think that is right and of course if it was really real yeah it is fucked up, but seriously get a grip over a popular form of Japanese porn. Again though, really who are you to say what is right/wrong for what they find funny?


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doube post, sorry.


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leee wrote:
You know guys, that "I am a sesitive man" bullshit only works when you are young. Women, once they get past about 22 or 23, they know you are just spouting bullshit to make them feel good and think you are a liar if you give them bullshit lines like "That is sexist" or "I don't like porn becaue it demeans women" or similiar crap you guys are spewing. Either that or they will think you are pussy. Trust me on that, let go, don't let Oprah dictate your life and embrace your roots, you will do bettr off in the long run.

This is a Metal site, isn't their like Emo or Avenged Sevefold chat rooms you all can go and puss yourselves to women at?

"Should I accompany this rant with a smile so I am not assaulted by 17 year old Virgins?"

I bow to your expertise on women. Truly, you have shattered all my silly, mistaken notions about the female gender. Oh, how wrong I was, to assume that the woman in the video only reacted in the way she did because of her cultural programming. No, it's obviously because women enjoy being sexually assaulted. My mistake.

Just to make sure we're 100% crystal clear on how very much sarcasm that contained, I will say that if anyone did that to me, I would rip his balls off and kick him in the face. Repeatedly. Until he died.


You listen to Metal, easily the most homophobic, misogynist, sexist, male dominated sub culture around, yet an obvious faked jizz shot freaks you out?

For Japan that is mild anyways. I am surpised it wasn't part of a daily sitcom over there.

Who are you to say their culture or their cultural programming is wrong? It isn't your country, or your culture.

Of course I don't think that is right and of course if it was really real yeah it is fucked up, but seriously get a grip over a popular form of Japanese porn. Again though, really who are you to say what is right/wrong for what they find funny?


Hmm, this entire situation is an interesting one. It is interesting to watch unfold, certainly. Kayla is attempting to make a sensible point, and leee retorts at it with defence of the pedantic mask that all too many would give thier lives for. But, above this, leee, and maybe Kayla, are becoming hostile.
Yes, leee, I see the point you are making, and I will give you that; yet you fail to see beyond your own judgment. My opposition to your opinion or view does not make me Emo, nor a pawn, nor Dr. Phil(according to Rad). I would like to believe I don't sound like Dr. Phil; seriously.
Yet, I believe, one of, if not the, most important parts of communication is the ability to see past a desire to be right, or get the last word, or uphold some reputation. It is to learn from the views of others and develop your own from that; otherwise everyone will always spew an endless current of undeveloped, spiritually immature, pretentious, and really unknowledged bullshit and never learn a damn thing; because they refuse to be wrong.

I thought I would throw that in; continue.


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Double post, sorry.


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You listen to Metal, easily the most homophobic, misogynist, sexist, male dominated sub culture around


Umm...no. That title goes to rap.


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doble post, sorry.






I follow trends.


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doble post, sorry.






I follow trends.


NICE TREND YA COCKTOUCHER!!


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leee wrote:
You know guys, that "I am a sesitive man" bullshit only works when you are young. Women, once they get past about 22 or 23, they know you are just spouting bullshit to make them feel good and think you are a liar if you give them bullshit lines like "That is sexist" or "I don't like porn becaue it demeans women" or similiar crap you guys are spewing. Either that or they will think you are pussy. Trust me on that, let go, don't let Oprah dictate your life and embrace your roots, you will do bettr off in the long run.

This is a Metal site, isn't their like Emo or Avenged Sevefold chat rooms you all can go and puss yourselves to women at?

"Should I accompany this rant with a smile so I am not assaulted by 17 year old Virgins?"

I bow to your expertise on women. Truly, you have shattered all my silly, mistaken notions about the female gender. Oh, how wrong I was, to assume that the woman in the video only reacted in the way she did because of her cultural programming. No, it's obviously because women enjoy being sexually assaulted. My mistake.

Just to make sure we're 100% crystal clear on how very much sarcasm that contained, I will say that if anyone did that to me, I would rip his balls off and kick him in the face. Repeatedly. Until he died.


You listen to Metal, easily the most homophobic, misogynist, sexist, male dominated sub culture around, yet an obvious faked jizz shot freaks you out?

For Japan that is mild anyways. I am surpised it wasn't part of a daily sitcom over there.

Who are you to say their culture or their cultural programming is wrong? It isn't your country, or your culture.

Of course I don't think that is right and of course if it was really real yeah it is fucked up, but seriously get a grip over a popular form of Japanese porn. Again though, really who are you to say what is right/wrong for what they find funny?

Why do you say it's fake? What technical aspect of the video clip leads you to say that?

As for culture, yes, you can say that parts of a culture are wrong. The biggest example of this is female genital mutilation (also called female circumcision). It's a fairly standard cultural practice in parts of Africa, and yet it's condemned by nearly every human rights organization in the world. Obviously I'm not comparing FGM to that clip, but the principle is the same. It's an incredibly degrading, humiliating experience that anyone in their right mind would be disgusted by, and yet it's accepted by a cultural standard. Would you want a return to the Victorian codes of marriage, in which a husband literally owned his wife as property?

Lastly, I'll pull out another old chestnut and say, how would you feel if some random dude came up and spooged on you?


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Carnifex Umbris wrote:
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leee wrote:
You know guys, that "I am a sesitive man" bullshit only works when you are young. Women, once they get past about 22 or 23, they know you are just spouting bullshit to make them feel good and think you are a liar if you give them bullshit lines like "That is sexist" or "I don't like porn becaue it demeans women" or similiar crap you guys are spewing. Either that or they will think you are pussy. Trust me on that, let go, don't let Oprah dictate your life and embrace your roots, you will do bettr off in the long run.

This is a Metal site, isn't their like Emo or Avenged Sevefold chat rooms you all can go and puss yourselves to women at?

"Should I accompany this rant with a smile so I am not s assaulted by 17 year old Virgins?"

I bow to your expertise on women. Truly, you have shattered all my silly, mistaken notions about the female gender. Oh, how wrong I was, to assume that the woman in the video only reacted in the way she did because of her cultural programming. No, it's obviously because women enjoy being sexually assaulted. My mistake.

Just to make sure we're 100% crystal clear on how very much sarcasm that contained, I will say that if anyone did that to me, I would rip his balls off and kick him in the face. Repeatedly. Until he died.


You listen to Metal, easily the most homophobic, misogynist, sexist, male dominated sub culture around, yet an obvious faked jizz shot freaks you out?

For Japan that is mild anyways. I am surpised it wasn't part of a daily sitcom over there.

Who are you to say their culture or their cultural programming is wrong? It isn't your country, or your culture.

Of course I don't think that is right and of course if it was really real yeah it is fucked up, but seriously get a grip over a popular form of Japanese porn. Again though, really who are you to say what is right/wrong for what they find funny?

Why do you say it's fake? What technical aspect of the video clip leads you to say that?

As for culture, yes, you can say that parts of a culture are wrong. The biggest example of this is female genital mutilation (also called female circumcision). It's a fairly standard cultural practice in parts of Africa, and yet it's condemned by nearly every human rights organization in the world. Obviously I'm not comparing FGM to that clip, but the principle is the same. It's an incredibly degrading, humiliating experience that anyone in their right mind would be disgusted by, and yet it's accepted by a cultural standard. Would you want a return to the Victorian codes of marriage, in which a husband literally owned his wife as property?

Lastly, I'll pull out another old chestnut and say, how would you feel if some random dude came up and spooged on you?


No need to get all Femanazi on me :). I agree with you and of course I don't want to see people treated like shit. My point is that, it is really isn't up to us to decide what we think is right and wrong with other cultures. It is the US's biggest problem is we always expect everybody to act like us and have the same values and then we get all shocked and bent out of shape when they don't. That stuff in Africa, wrong, to us to them who are we to say?

Why do I think it is "staged". Cause this type of porn is extremely popular in Japan and there is a huge market for it. That plus the fact that it is probably illegal (Yeah even in Japan, you get in serious trouble there now days if you do the train group or sleep with school girls, it isn't like it was 15 or 20 years ago).

It is actual footage for sure...without getting into the ins and outs of Jap porn lets just say I am for sure it is a setup like Pro Wrestling. If it isn't, well those are some crazy guys and it is probably fucked up.

I do find it funny that this is totally cool porn and legal but it is illegal to show gentilia and shit over there and everything gets the mosiac.........


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