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When Kelsey dumps Noodles he will...
Kill himself 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Stalk her until he is arrested 17%  17%  [ 4 ]
Meh, just crack onto the next girl he meets at Hot Topic 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Become a homosexual 57%  57%  [ 13 ]
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This thread was better when Kathy and I were being gay.


What do you mean, 'were'?

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your twisting my thoughts here, I said that dishonesty will harm them, not honesty. Also, you know very well money is never a good reason to stay in a relationship. There are so many things you say that are soo wrong I won't even try to argue them out anymore.

But in general someone who will do anything(including getting her woman pregnant without her consent) is a dishonest person, who can't live by himself and is willing to do anything to satisfy his needs. So basically you can shove him in the selfish category.The relationship is built on false pretences and problems will surface eventually. Is the guy happy is the gal happy ? maybe but the girl is clueless about the real situation, and that is purely dishonest.
One of the persons in this fake relationship is being used by some selfish, dishonest person who will only end up hurting the other person implicated. When this charade ends She'll only realize how badly she has wasted her life.

If you can't see how wrong this is, I rest my case..i'm not going to waste my time explaining myself, since clearly you'll never understand.


Don't be like that! Relationships are rarely equal - there's always one getting more from the other, one using the other more. It's only the acceptance of that that gets named 'love'. Is it really equal for a woman to give a man her body to use, in exchange for financial security and the social status that comes from being in a partnership (Victorian-styled views on single women are still very much applicable today!)? No, but it doesn't stop it from happening.

If she really felt something for him, she'd forgive the 'dishonesty' in getting her pregnant. Otherwise, it's her own fault for following her heart over her mind.


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Zad wrote:
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your twisting my thoughts here, I said that dishonesty will harm them, not honesty. Also, you know very well money is never a good reason to stay in a relationship. There are so many things you say that are soo wrong I won't even try to argue them out anymore.

But in general someone who will do anything(including getting her woman pregnant without her consent) is a dishonest person, who can't live by himself and is willing to do anything to satisfy his needs. So basically you can shove him in the selfish category.The relationship is built on false pretences and problems will surface eventually. Is the guy happy is the gal happy ? maybe but the girl is clueless about the real situation, and that is purely dishonest.
One of the persons in this fake relationship is being used by some selfish, dishonest person who will only end up hurting the other person implicated. When this charade ends She'll only realize how badly she has wasted her life.

If you can't see how wrong this is, I rest my case..i'm not going to waste my time explaining myself, since clearly you'll never understand.


Victorian-styled views on single women are still very much applicable today!


Well not over where I live. There is no such thing as status, in that type of situation.
Why do you say we use women's bodies ? they need it as much as we do so can't we say the use our bodies too ?

And for the money thing, less and less women go for that where is the need nowadays? women make as much as men. So it's no more a factor. I like to see my woman as an equal who complements me, and I will accept nothing less than honesty right form the start.


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Well not over where I live. Their is no such thing status.
Why do you say we use women's bodies ? they need it as much as we do so can't we say the use our bodies too ?

And for the money thing, less and less women go for that where is the need nowadays? women make as much as men. So it's no more a factor. I like to see my woman as an equal who complements me, and I will accept nothing less than honesty right form the start.


Women STILL make less than men.

http://www.cluw.org/programs-payequity.html

Come on, you only have to look at the market for pornogrpahy to answer that. Is there more pornography directed at men or women? Men. Supply feeds demand, after all...

I'm glad that you hold such a enlightened viewpoint, and you've found one of the noble few women who aren't complete and utter whores in every sense of the word, but you see my point? It's telling that the most valuable thing about your woman, the one that came first to mind was - 'she complements me'. She makes you look good. How equal and loving your relationship must be! Complete honesty is hardly ever achieved - there are some things everyone wants hidden. EVERYONE has their nasty secrets, Grandbazaar, EVERYONE.


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Zad wrote:
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Well not over where I live. Their is no such thing status.
Why do you say we use women's bodies ? they need it as much as we do so can't we say the use our bodies too ?

And for the money thing, less and less women go for that where is the need nowadays? women make as much as men. So it's no more a factor. I like to see my woman as an equal who complements me, and I will accept nothing less than honesty right form the start.


Women STILL make less than men.

http://www.cluw.org/programs-payequity.html

Come on, you only have to look at the market for pornogrpahy to answer that. Is there more pornography directed at men or women? Men. Supply feeds demand, after all...

I'm glad that you hold such a enlightened viewpoint, and you've found one of the noble few women who aren't complete and utter whores in every sense of the word, but you see my point? It's telling that the most valuable thing about your woman, the one that came first to mind was - 'she complements me'. She makes you look good. How equal and loving your relationship must be! Complete honesty is hardly ever achieved - there are some things everyone wants hidden. EVERYONE has their nasty secrets, Grandbazaar, EVERYONE.



Woman in an equal job functions do make less to some degree but the gap is slowly closing ( Canada is one of the countries who is the most equitable towards women) and all woman can get a job in the field of work they want they are not limited to the traditional
jobs like nuresing, secretary ect..
They can be anything they want and make a better living than most guys because they pursue
their studies as many guys don't go to university. Statistics in Canada show woman get more education than men in general.

On the porn thing, there are women who watch it too they just don't yell it on top of the world. And just the fact that there are women in the business , you know that women do enjoy sex, cause why be in the business in the first place. money is one reason but most of those "actresses" say they love sex.

"She comlements me" was meant as we complement each other.

"complete honesty is hardly achieved" - TRUE, but you can't say making someone pregnant without her consent is a normal little white lie that she doesn't need to know about...


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grandbazaar wrote:
Woman in an equal job functions do make less to some degree but the gap is slowly closing ( Canada is one of the countries who is the most equitable towards women) and all woman can get a job in the field of work they want they are not limited to the traditional
jobs like nuresing, secretary ect..
They can be anything they want and make a better living than most guys because they pursue
their studies as many guys don't go to university. Statistics in Canada show woman get more education than men in general.

On the porn thing, there are women who watch it too they just don't yell it on top of the world. And just the fact that there are women in the business , you know that women do enjoy sex, cause why be in the business in the first place. money is one reason but most of those "actresses" say they love sex.

"She comlements me" was meant as we complement each other.

"complete honesty is hardly achieved" - TRUE, but you can't say making someone pregnant without here consent is a normal little white lie that she doesn't need to know about...


I think it's hilarious you take the word of a porn actress at face value. The sluts are paid to fuck strangers on tape, would you trust them with anything? Yes, I'm sure that there are a few lunatics that enjoy being treated like tissue papers, but what of those poor unfortunates sold into it? Forced into it? Gang-rape is very liberating...

The very fact that women can't be vocal about their appreciation of porn proves my point right!

Bah, you said differently. You said 'she complements me'. And even if you're right, you're still using each other - she uses you to look good, you use her to look good. Again, how loving.

In the grand scheme of things, it barely matters, do you see? She has a kid, life goes on, everything is fine. And Noodles is happy, because his dream slut's still with him. So where's the problem?


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Zad wrote:
And Noodles is happy, because his dream slut's still with him. So where's the problem?



You're one bitter man Zad. :)

I can't help but agree to a certain degree, but it seems as if
you just got fucked in the ass by some chick and now you're horribly
bitter about it.

n00dles will come to his senses one day, after girl 1238901830 dumps
him for some sleezebag, he'll understand. :)

.:crast:.


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I can't help but agree to a certain degree, but it seems as if
you just got fucked in the ass by some chick and now you're horribly bitter about it.
.:crast:.

lolz!! that happend to my mate once!! :lol:


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crast wrote:
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And Noodles is happy, because his dream slut's still with him. So where's the problem?



You're one bitter man Zad. :)

I can't help but agree to a certain degree, but it seems as if
you just got fucked in the ass by some chick and now you're horribly
bitter about it.

n00dles will come to his senses one day, after girl 1238901830 dumps
him for some sleezebag, he'll understand. :)

.:crast:.


I certainly never got anyone pregnant against her will, if that's what you're implying. Just making the point - people place too much focus on honesty, even when no possible good can come of it.


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Zad wrote:
grandbazaar wrote:
Woman in an equal job functions do make less to some degree but the gap is slowly closing ( Canada is one of the countries who is the most equitable towards women) and all woman can get a job in the field of work they want they are not limited to the traditional
jobs like nuresing, secretary ect..
They can be anything they want and make a better living than most guys because they pursue
their studies as many guys don't go to university. Statistics in Canada show woman get more education than men in general.

On the porn thing, there are women who watch it too they just don't yell it on top of the world. And just the fact that there are women in the business , you know that women do enjoy sex, cause why be in the business in the first place. money is one reason but most of those "actresses" say they love sex.

"She comlements me" was meant as we complement each other.

"complete honesty is hardly achieved" - TRUE, but you can't say making someone pregnant without here consent is a normal little white lie that she doesn't need to know about...



Bah, you said differently. You said 'she complements me'. And even if you're right, you're still using each other - she uses you to look good, you use her to look good. Again, how loving.



I find it interesting you keep using "to look good".
complementing has nothing to do with looks, It has to do with complicity and helping each other in areas we lack knowledge or experience which in the end enhances are experience as a couple
and increases both our well being.


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grandbazaar wrote:
I find it interesting you keep using "to look good".
complementing has nothing to do with looks, It has to do with complicity and helping each other in areas we lack knowledge or experience which in the end enhances are experience as a couple
and increases both our well being.



Ah, different uses of the word (think mine was closer to its true meaning, but never mind). Some would say you do things together out of possible jealousy, fearing what one would get up to when the other's not around...


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Radagast wrote:
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This thread was better when Kathy and I were being gay.


What do you mean, 'were'?

:oops:


Can we have a child Krieg? I think we should. Let's adopt noodles and make him a fine young man.


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You know Zad, your entire (however facetious) argument is based on the assumption that she wouldn't get an abortion. Despite our government's best efforts, Roe v. Wade hasn't been overturned yet. I know that if someone got me pregnant on purpose, the first thing I would do is get myself down to Planned Parenthood.

The second would be to make sure, in the most drawn-out and excruciating way possible, that he could not do that again.


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Carnifex Umbris wrote:
You know Zad, your entire (however facetious) argument is based on the assumption that she wouldn't get an abortion. Despite our government's best efforts, Roe v. Wade hasn't been overturned yet. I know that if someone got me pregnant on purpose, the first thing I would do is get myself down to Planned Parenthood.

The second would be to make sure, in the most drawn-out and excruciating way possible, that he could not do that again.

Abortions, fuck yeah.


(Yes I know it's a reeeeally lame joke, but this thread is getting very serious.)


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Carnifex Umbris wrote:
You know Zad, your entire (however facetious) argument is based on the assumption that she wouldn't get an abortion. Despite our government's best efforts, Roe v. Wade hasn't been overturned yet. I know that if someone got me pregnant on purpose, the first thing I would do is get myself down to Planned Parenthood.

The second would be to make sure, in the most drawn-out and excruciating way possible, that he could not do that again.


Well, you said it yourself. I'd never get anyone pregnant on purpose (well, unless they wanted me to...), just arguing the point.

And I hope anyone would do the second. Sad to say that a lot wouldn't...


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I can't help but agree to a certain degree, but it seems as if
you just got fucked in the ass by some chick and now you're horribly bitter about it.
.:crast:.

lolz!! that happend to my mate once!! :lol:


Pity I missed this! :lol: Did it go how I'm assuming it did?


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Kathaarian wrote:
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This thread was better when Kathy and I were being gay.


What do you mean, 'were'?

:oops:


Can we have a child Krieg? I think we should. Let's adopt noodles and make him a fine young man.

I'll sodomise some sense into him...


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You can tell Zad never touched a boobie in his life........


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You can tell Zad never touched a boobie in his life........


:roll: I refuse to discuss my personal life with a troll alternate account. Fuck yourself, and act your age.


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Zad wrote:
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You can tell Zad never touched a boobie in his life........


:roll: I refuse to discuss my personal life with a troll alternate account. Fuck yourself, and act your age.


lol, once again more proof you never touched a boobie since you get so hyper sensitive over it.....

Come on you know I am not Ken, we are just lovers and share a bedroom, hence the same IP address. Ken does have boobies though so I am one up on you.....ha ha

Grow up dude, you keep telling me to act my age? Fuck that, I am prould to be an immature 37 year old fucking with you kids on message boards. It is fun and gets rid of stress. You notice you are the only one I ever talk shit to don't you child? Tell you something? What? You think I should be like everyone else that is my age? Bored, raising fucking kids, mowing their lawn, getting bitched at by their fat ass wife, pretending to be 20 and having cyber sex on the 'net with "chicks" Fuck that shit. I gave up long ago pleasing anyone but myself and I am going to do and act exactly how I want until I drop dead at some point hopefully in a brothel in China or Thailand fucking wasted with some 20 year old girl. You think that is gay or make me a pig, good!? Fine, You think that is immature? Again fine with me. I don't care what anyone thinks about me. I have a good job, I am well paid, I work hard, people respect me and I earn the right to act and do any fucking thing I want. Once of these days when you are all grown up you can make a choice like that. you will probably be one of those when they hit 30 they pretend they never even liked Metal or any of that shit and laugh at others. I can tell. Or you will just sit around and bitch about all the shit you could have done if you weren't such a tight ass and worried about how mature you act. A joke to be so young and so fucking tight wound and serious.

Ken is cool, he gets it (and cooks good too).


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