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I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


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Some people will believe anything. If some of you guys found an article saying Winnie the Pooh tossed his honey jar at the pentagon you'd be saying Bush payed him to throw it.


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100% bollocks


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Some people will believe anything. If some of you guys found an article saying Winnie the Pooh tossed his honey jar at the pentagon you'd be saying Bush payed him to throw it.


indeed.. some ppl will believe anything, like the bible or the president's words.

anywho:

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html


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When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on the FBI's web page, Rex Tomb, the FBI's Chief of Investigative Publicity, is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."
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Skeptics dismiss the video tape "found in a house in Jalalabad", Afghanistan, which allegedly shows Bin Laden confessing to the September 11 attacks. In a December 20, 2001, broadcast by German TV channel Das Erste "two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House's translation not only to be inaccurate, but manipulative."


this does not mean i think Bin Laden is a good guy, though


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I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


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I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


there are pictures...........


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leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


there are pictures...........

Actually, these pictures prove that it was not the plane it's said to be, but a drone. The scraps of metal found had a combined weight of a ton, that's too little for a a 30 ton plane. Lots of things point at the use of a computer controlled craft hitting the pentagon. It's also a bit strange that it hit the only part that was not in use. It had to make a 180 turn to do that, why would the terrorists want to make a 180 degree turn? The pilots that were initially said to have crashed the plain into the building were still alive and functioning as pilots by the way.


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Misha wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


there are pictures...........

Actually, these pictures prove that it was not the plane it's said to be, but a drone. The scraps of metal found had a combined weight of a ton, that's too little for a a 30 ton plane. Lots of things point at the use of a computer controlled craft hitting the pentagon. It's also a bit strange that it hit the only part that was not in use. It had to make a 180 turn to do that, why would the terrorists want to make a 180 degree turn? The pilots that were initially said to have crashed the plain into the building were still alive and functioning as pilots by the way.



And the passengers?


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Orion wrote:
Misha wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


there are pictures...........

Actually, these pictures prove that it was not the plane it's said to be, but a drone. The scraps of metal found had a combined weight of a ton, that's too little for a a 30 ton plane. Lots of things point at the use of a computer controlled craft hitting the pentagon. It's also a bit strange that it hit the only part that was not in use. It had to make a 180 turn to do that, why would the terrorists want to make a 180 degree turn? The pilots that were initially said to have crashed the plain into the building were still alive and functioning as pilots by the way.



And the passengers?

Have you seen body parts on any of those pictures? When you look at crashes, there are ALWAYS human remains.


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Well, I haven't seen any pictures that are close enough to where you'd be able to pick out body parts even if they were there. You honestly think this was an inside job? It would be impossible to pull something off on that grand of a scale. An assasination or something is plausibe. Multiple planes being hijacked and crashed into buildings is not. Too many people involved.


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Well, I haven't seen any pictures that are close enough to where you'd be able to pick out body parts even if they were there. You honestly think this was an inside job? It would be impossible to pull something off on that grand of a scale. An assasination or something is plausibe. Multiple planes being hijacked and crashed into buildings is not. Too many people involved.

That's probably why the FBI confiscated all video's and photo's, and was even sweeping the terrain of the crash. I dunno if it's all inside work, but I do know it's seriously fucked up. The budget for the investigation of Bill Clinton's case had an extra zero. Isn't that weird?


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The budget for the investigation of Bill Clinton's case had an extra zero. Isn't that weird?


huh?


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i think he's saying that Bill's investigation had a budget 10 times bigger, and that it's strange that they spend more investigating a sex scandal than the murder of several thousand people.

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I was only talking about the Pentagon strike...I haven't really seen anything about the Twin Tower strikes, if that's what you were talking about. All I know is that, at the Pentagon, the holes supposedly made by the airplane were circular, meaning that if they were made by an airplane the wings and tail would have had to come off, but there was no airplane debris found. Also, on the ground in front of the Pentagon where the plane would have had to hit to hit the Pentagon at that angle, there was no real mess at all...damn, I wish I could find that video.


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Misha wrote:
Orion wrote:
Misha wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


there are pictures...........

Actually, these pictures prove that it was not the plane it's said to be, but a drone. The scraps of metal found had a combined weight of a ton, that's too little for a a 30 ton plane. Lots of things point at the use of a computer controlled craft hitting the pentagon. It's also a bit strange that it hit the only part that was not in use. It had to make a 180 turn to do that, why would the terrorists want to make a 180 degree turn? The pilots that were initially said to have crashed the plain into the building were still alive and functioning as pilots by the way.



And the passengers?

Have you seen body parts on any of those pictures? When you look at crashes, there are ALWAYS human remains.


You can tell all the families and friends of the passengers lost on that plane that it was all a big "conspiracy."


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the pentagon thing seems kinda dodgy


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metalNESS wrote:
Misha wrote:
Orion wrote:
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leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


there are pictures...........

Actually, these pictures prove that it was not the plane it's said to be, but a drone. The scraps of metal found had a combined weight of a ton, that's too little for a a 30 ton plane. Lots of things point at the use of a computer controlled craft hitting the pentagon. It's also a bit strange that it hit the only part that was not in use. It had to make a 180 turn to do that, why would the terrorists want to make a 180 degree turn? The pilots that were initially said to have crashed the plain into the building were still alive and functioning as pilots by the way.



And the passengers?

Have you seen body parts on any of those pictures? When you look at crashes, there are ALWAYS human remains.


You can tell all the families and friends of the passengers lost on that plane that it was all a big "conspiracy."

I'm only making an assumption here, but the flights that crashed into the WTC were not full (far from, actually), and that's VERY unlikely for those flights. What if the passengers that were said to be on the pentagon flight were actually in those other planes?


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Misha wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Misha wrote:
Orion wrote:
Misha wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
leee wrote:
heatseeker wrote:
I used to have this great video that talked a lot about the Pentagon strike, but I've lost it...it pointed out some great stuff, like how clean the holes made through the Pentagon were and the fact that there was no airplane debris in the area...if I find it I'll post it here.


There was Airplane debris and body parts.....get real.


Okay, all-knowing being...


there are pictures...........

Actually, these pictures prove that it was not the plane it's said to be, but a drone. The scraps of metal found had a combined weight of a ton, that's too little for a a 30 ton plane. Lots of things point at the use of a computer controlled craft hitting the pentagon. It's also a bit strange that it hit the only part that was not in use. It had to make a 180 turn to do that, why would the terrorists want to make a 180 degree turn? The pilots that were initially said to have crashed the plain into the building were still alive and functioning as pilots by the way.



And the passengers?

Have you seen body parts on any of those pictures? When you look at crashes, there are ALWAYS human remains.


You can tell all the families and friends of the passengers lost on that plane that it was all a big "conspiracy."

I'm only making an assumption here, but the flights that crashed into the WTC were not full (far from, actually), and that's VERY unlikely for those flights. What if the passengers that were said to be on the pentagon flight were actually in those other planes?



So you are saying the terrorists hijacked the planes and crashed them into the WTC. Then, Bush is like, "Holy Shit guys lets do something to blow up the Pentagon. That would pwn. We can tell everybody it was terorists."


Nice story. :lame:


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Bollocks bollocks bollocks.


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I was only talking about the Pentagon strike...I haven't really seen anything about the Twin Tower strikes, if that's what you were talking about. All I know is that, at the Pentagon, the holes supposedly made by the airplane were circular, meaning that if they were made by an airplane the wings and tail would have had to come off, but there was no airplane debris found. Also, on the ground in front of the Pentagon where the plane would have had to hit to hit the Pentagon at that angle, there was no real mess at all...damn, I wish I could find that video.

I think its this your talking about, its the most well known of the 9/11 vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zUht6cLkMc Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-guQaYgrWqI Part 2

This is a video called screw loose change, it debunks the theories made in Loose change

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGscWP5Osw Part 1/12


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