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to create a spaceship that moves with 99% of the speed of light could be possible in theory and then spacetravels would be possible if Einstein is right, I can't remember exactly what the formula is but if I remember right it would take about 116 years or so to travel to the nearest star and back, but then about 2000 years would have passed on earth

Lol, I don't know where you read that, but it's shit :D time traveling is something else, it's not gonna happen when you're traveling at light speed. And the nearest star is 3 lightyears away or something yes. Alpha Century if I'm not mistaken...


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to create a spaceship that moves with 99% of the speed of light could be possible in theory and then spacetravels would be possible if Einstein is right, I can't remember exactly what the formula is but if I remember right it would take about 116 years or so to travel to the nearest star and back, but then about 2000 years would have passed on earth

Lol, I don't know where you read that, but it's shit :D time traveling is something else, it's not gonna happen when you're traveling at light speed. And the nearest star is 3 lightyears away or something yes. Alpha Century if I'm not mistaken...


actually I heard it on a lecture on sonja-kovalevsky-dagarna, wich is like a mathematic convention for 16-18 year old students in Sweden so I'm pretty sure that it's correct in theory, I just don't remember the details


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and how would it take 116 years to get to the nearest star, when it takes over a million years for the light from the nearest star to hit earth?! :blink:


EDIT:okay, i take that back.. the nearest star is only 4,3 lightyears away :wink:

however... the problem is not finding a star that's close to earth... it's finding a star with a suitable planet(s).


there are an uncountable number of planets. do you truly believe that ours is the only habitable one?

and on the subject of travels, I'll just wait for hyperspace. Remember, the Falcon can do .5 past lightspeed. I don't know what that means, but it probably is pretty fast...


eh... no, lol...

i do know that's there habitable planets out there. But planets are harder to find than stars since planets don't emit light. From earth it's quite hard see them, you know. The only way to detect them is by looking at the star's movement. But it doesn't tell anything about wheither it's a gasplanet or have a iron/rock core, or if it has water. (okay, perhaps not entirely true.. but still).. but so far we haven't found any planet that's similar to earth, with water, the right distance to the sun etc.


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and how would it take 116 years to get to the nearest star, when it takes over a million years for the light from the nearest star to hit earth?! :blink:


EDIT:okay, i take that back.. the nearest star is only 4,3 lightyears away :wink:

however... the problem is not finding a star that's close to earth... it's finding a star with a suitable planet(s).


there are an uncountable number of planets. do you truly believe that ours is the only habitable one?

and on the subject of travels, I'll just wait for hyperspace. Remember, the Falcon can do .5 past lightspeed. I don't know what that means, but it probably is pretty fast...


eh... no, lol...

i do know that's there habitable planets out there. But planets are harder to find than stars since planets don't emit light. From earth it's quite hard see them, you know. The only way to detect them is by looking at the star's movement. But it doesn't tell anything about wheither it's a gasplanet or have a iron/rock core, or if it has water. (okay, perhaps not entirely true.. but still).. but so far we haven't found any planet that's similar to earth, with water, the right distance to the sun etc.

Science Fiction writers have created a theory called Terraforming which would convert a planet or moon into a habital atmosphere. This would be done by a serise of chemical reactions on a massive scale (like at the end of Total recall). This seem to me the most likly way to live on other planets. So finding one would not be such a huge and tiresome job.


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and how would it take 116 years to get to the nearest star, when it takes over a million years for the light from the nearest star to hit earth?! :blink:


EDIT:okay, i take that back.. the nearest star is only 4,3 lightyears away :wink:

however... the problem is not finding a star that's close to earth... it's finding a star with a suitable planet(s).


there are an uncountable number of planets. do you truly believe that ours is the only habitable one?

and on the subject of travels, I'll just wait for hyperspace. Remember, the Falcon can do .5 past lightspeed. I don't know what that means, but it probably is pretty fast...


eh... no, lol...

i do know that's there habitable planets out there. But planets are harder to find than stars since planets don't emit light. From earth it's quite hard see them, you know. The only way to detect them is by looking at the star's movement. But it doesn't tell anything about wheither it's a gasplanet or have a iron/rock core, or if it has water. (okay, perhaps not entirely true.. but still).. but so far we haven't found any planet that's similar to earth, with water, the right distance to the sun etc.

Science Fiction writers have created a theory called Terraforming which would convert a planet or moon into a habital atmosphere. This would be done by a serise of chemical reactions on a massive scale (like at the end of Total recall). This seem to me the most likly way to live on other planets. So finding one would not be such a huge and tiresome job.


and hey, we can always build domes on the moon.

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Astaroth wrote:
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and how would it take 116 years to get to the nearest star, when it takes over a million years for the light from the nearest star to hit earth?! :blink:


EDIT:okay, i take that back.. the nearest star is only 4,3 lightyears away :wink:

however... the problem is not finding a star that's close to earth... it's finding a star with a suitable planet(s).


there are an uncountable number of planets. do you truly believe that ours is the only habitable one?

and on the subject of travels, I'll just wait for hyperspace. Remember, the Falcon can do .5 past lightspeed. I don't know what that means, but it probably is pretty fast...


eh... no, lol...

i do know that's there habitable planets out there. But planets are harder to find than stars since planets don't emit light. From earth it's quite hard see them, you know. The only way to detect them is by looking at the star's movement. But it doesn't tell anything about wheither it's a gasplanet or have a iron/rock core, or if it has water. (okay, perhaps not entirely true.. but still).. but so far we haven't found any planet that's similar to earth, with water, the right distance to the sun etc.

We have Mars! When we can raise the temperature by just a few degrees (using mirrors in space for example) the sun will melt the ice on the hottest time of the day, and an atmosphere can form. When that takes place, the temperature will rise and flatten out, this will strengthen the atmosphere and life will be possible. In theory :P


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stuartn15ted wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
and how would it take 116 years to get to the nearest star, when it takes over a million years for the light from the nearest star to hit earth?! :blink:


EDIT:okay, i take that back.. the nearest star is only 4,3 lightyears away :wink:

however... the problem is not finding a star that's close to earth... it's finding a star with a suitable planet(s).


there are an uncountable number of planets. do you truly believe that ours is the only habitable one?

and on the subject of travels, I'll just wait for hyperspace. Remember, the Falcon can do .5 past lightspeed. I don't know what that means, but it probably is pretty fast...


eh... no, lol...

i do know that's there habitable planets out there. But planets are harder to find than stars since planets don't emit light. From earth it's quite hard see them, you know. The only way to detect them is by looking at the star's movement. But it doesn't tell anything about wheither it's a gasplanet or have a iron/rock core, or if it has water. (okay, perhaps not entirely true.. but still).. but so far we haven't found any planet that's similar to earth, with water, the right distance to the sun etc.

Science Fiction writers have created a theory called Terraforming which would convert a planet or moon into a habital atmosphere. This would be done by a serise of chemical reactions on a massive scale (like at the end of Total recall). This seem to me the most likly way to live on other planets. So finding one would not be such a huge and tiresome job.


yes, that's another way to go, of course. But it still requires to right type of planet. Mars did have an atmosphere once, but it vanished due to low gravity, so a small moon is not an option either. And the planet also requires a solid core (again, right distance to the sun/star - the planets that are far away from the sun doesn't have a solid core and consists of gas, like in our solar system, because only the light material are flung that far.


and what's point in having a dome on the moon? :D ... and who's going to pay for it... it would require an assload of money to fly material up there, he he :cool: ... it would probably end up costing 1.000.000 times more than a dome build on earth


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Astaroth wrote:
stuartn15ted wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
and how would it take 116 years to get to the nearest star, when it takes over a million years for the light from the nearest star to hit earth?! :blink:


EDIT:okay, i take that back.. the nearest star is only 4,3 lightyears away :wink:

however... the problem is not finding a star that's close to earth... it's finding a star with a suitable planet(s).


there are an uncountable number of planets. do you truly believe that ours is the only habitable one?

and on the subject of travels, I'll just wait for hyperspace. Remember, the Falcon can do .5 past lightspeed. I don't know what that means, but it probably is pretty fast...


eh... no, lol...

i do know that's there habitable planets out there. But planets are harder to find than stars since planets don't emit light. From earth it's quite hard see them, you know. The only way to detect them is by looking at the star's movement. But it doesn't tell anything about wheither it's a gasplanet or have a iron/rock core, or if it has water. (okay, perhaps not entirely true.. but still).. but so far we haven't found any planet that's similar to earth, with water, the right distance to the sun etc.

Science Fiction writers have created a theory called Terraforming which would convert a planet or moon into a habital atmosphere. This would be done by a serise of chemical reactions on a massive scale (like at the end of Total recall). This seem to me the most likly way to live on other planets. So finding one would not be such a huge and tiresome job.


yes, that's another way to go, of course. But it still requires to right type of planet. Mars did have an atmosphere once, but it vanished due to low gravity, so a small moon is not an option either. And the planet also requires a solid core (again, right distance to the sun/star - the planets that are far away from the sun doesn't have a solid core, like in our solar system, because only the light material are flung that far.


and what's point in having a dome on the moon? :D ... and who's going to pay for it... it would require an assload of money to fly material up there, he he :cool: ... it would probably end up costing 1.000.000 times more than a dome build on earth


because the world is reaching overpopulation, and someone will have to be shipped off to the moon. Remember what Australia originaly was?

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I'd like to be around when the world ends, although maybe when I turn 60 I'll just do acid and light myself on fire and I'll just think I was.


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yes, that's another way to go, of course. But it still requires to right type of planet. Mars did have an atmosphere once, but it vanished due to low gravity, so a small moon is not an option either. And the planet also requires a solid core (again, right distance to the sun/star - the planets that are far away from the sun doesn't have a solid core, like in our solar system, because only the light material are flung that far.


and what's point in having a dome on the moon? :D ... and who's going to pay for it... it would require an assload of money to fly material up there, he he :cool: ... it would probably end up costing 1.000.000 times more than a dome build on earth


because the world is reaching overpopulation, and someone will have to be shipped off to the moon. Remember what Australia originaly was?


well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.


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because the world is reaching overpopulation, and someone will have to be shipped off to the moon. Remember what Australia originaly was?

It was a penal colony. It was more to do with Britian not wanting to build more expensive prisons than anything.


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well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
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well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.


ha ha... i don't think we have the technology in time. Nor do i think the western countries in about 50 are nearly as rich as we are today. And how are supposed to transfer millions of ppl into space?!? And how are we going to get that kind of money it would require? And which ppl should be moved to the moon... only the 1000 most wealthiest ppl could effort it, so is it really that good a solution?

of course, in science fiction-theory u could just freeze down human eggs and spermcells and let them evolve into babies when the planet was in sight, in order to ship millions of ppl at the same time... but that doesn't do anything for the ppl living on earth


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Astaroth wrote:
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Astaroth wrote:
well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.


ha ha... i don't think we have the technology in time. Nor do i think the western countries in about 50 are nearly as rich as we are today. And how are supposed to transfer millions of ppl into space?!? And how are we going to get that kind of money it would require? And which ppl should be moved to the moon... only the 1000 most wealthiest ppl could effort it, so is it really that good a solution?

of course, in science fiction-theory u could just freeze down human eggs and spermcells and let them evolve into babies when the planet was in sight, in order to ship millions of ppl at the same time... but that doesn't do anything for the ppl living on earth


what's going to happen is that the world will unite in a sense, with not all these small countries. There will be a different, wider type of government and technology will be focused less on war than on survival. Did you ever read any Asimov? I find his novels a pretty insightful prediction.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.


ha ha... i don't think we have the technology in time. Nor do i think the western countries in about 50 are nearly as rich as we are today. And how are supposed to transfer millions of ppl into space?!? And how are we going to get that kind of money it would require? And which ppl should be moved to the moon... only the 1000 most wealthiest ppl could effort it, so is it really that good a solution?

of course, in science fiction-theory u could just freeze down human eggs and spermcells and let them evolve into babies when the planet was in sight, in order to ship millions of ppl at the same time... but that doesn't do anything for the ppl living on earth


what's going to happen is that the world will unite in a sense, with not all these small countries. There will be a different, wider type of government and technology will be focused less on war than on survival. Did you ever read any Asimov? I find his novels a pretty insightful prediction.


nope, i have not, i'm afraid :)

but it's only predictions... after the moonlanding in the 60's predicted that we were living on the moon in the year of 2000... we did surpass their prediction regarding livestyle with our internet, computer, mp3-players and all, though... but the spaceprogram haven't gotten much attention after the coldwar as such... it's still a matter of money and a united world doesn't solve that problem, even though i think the united world seems a bit unrealistic in the first place.


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Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.


ha ha... i don't think we have the technology in time. Nor do i think the western countries in about 50 are nearly as rich as we are today. And how are supposed to transfer millions of ppl into space?!? And how are we going to get that kind of money it would require? And which ppl should be moved to the moon... only the 1000 most wealthiest ppl could effort it, so is it really that good a solution?

of course, in science fiction-theory u could just freeze down human eggs and spermcells and let them evolve into babies when the planet was in sight, in order to ship millions of ppl at the same time... but that doesn't do anything for the ppl living on earth


what's going to happen is that the world will unite in a sense, with not all these small countries. There will be a different, wider type of government and technology will be focused less on war than on survival. Did you ever read any Asimov? I find his novels a pretty insightful prediction.


nope, i have not, i'm afraid :)

but it's only predictions... after the moonlanding in the 60's predicted that we were living on the moon in the year of 2000... we did surpass their prediction regarding livestyle with our internet, computer, mp3-players and all, though... but the spaceprogram haven't gotten much attention after the coldwar as such... it's still a matter of money and a united world doesn't solve that problem, even though i think the united world seems a bit unrealistic in the first place.


all that needs to happen is that the UN becomes more powerful than any individual nation. Then money can be used for the greater good of the entire world, not just by whatver nation happens to have more of it. The more of an important part the UN plays in the world, the more we move closer to a united world. Religion will eventually be all but wiped out, and there will be almost no cultural differences whatsoever. Eventually humanity will realize that it has to cooperate to survive, and not bomb eachother.

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I so want to live forever so I can take lots of years (or maybe not) to get to a farawy planet and terraform it if its not habitable and then not have to live on earth cause its overcrowded with all the other people that are also living forever cause thats how it would happen.

That would be so rad.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.


ha ha... i don't think we have the technology in time. Nor do i think the western countries in about 50 are nearly as rich as we are today. And how are supposed to transfer millions of ppl into space?!? And how are we going to get that kind of money it would require? And which ppl should be moved to the moon... only the 1000 most wealthiest ppl could effort it, so is it really that good a solution?

of course, in science fiction-theory u could just freeze down human eggs and spermcells and let them evolve into babies when the planet was in sight, in order to ship millions of ppl at the same time... but that doesn't do anything for the ppl living on earth


what's going to happen is that the world will unite in a sense, with not all these small countries. There will be a different, wider type of government and technology will be focused less on war than on survival. Did you ever read any Asimov? I find his novels a pretty insightful prediction.


nope, i have not, i'm afraid :)

but it's only predictions... after the moonlanding in the 60's predicted that we were living on the moon in the year of 2000... we did surpass their prediction regarding livestyle with our internet, computer, mp3-players and all, though... but the spaceprogram haven't gotten much attention after the coldwar as such... it's still a matter of money and a united world doesn't solve that problem, even though i think the united world seems a bit unrealistic in the first place.


all that needs to happen is that the UN becomes more powerful than any individual nation. Then money can be used for the greater good of the entire world, not just by whatver nation happens to have more of it. The more of an important part the UN plays in the world, the more we move closer to a united world. Religion will eventually be all but wiped out, and there will be almost no cultural differences whatsoever. Eventually humanity will realize that it has to cooperate to survive, and not bomb eachother.


yes, perhaps... but the money should be used on earth and not on the moon. Famine won't be solved by moving to the moon. It's not easier or cheaper to grow crops and raise animals on the moon than it is on earth.
I do think humanity should realize that cooperating is a good idea... however.. a world with no cultural differences or religion at all is a world i don't to be a part of, and i don't think that's necessary in order for ppl to cooperate.. if ppl didn't have their cultural roots (or religion for some) they would become even more selfdestructive.


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Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.


ha ha... i don't think we have the technology in time. Nor do i think the western countries in about 50 are nearly as rich as we are today. And how are supposed to transfer millions of ppl into space?!? And how are we going to get that kind of money it would require? And which ppl should be moved to the moon... only the 1000 most wealthiest ppl could effort it, so is it really that good a solution?

of course, in science fiction-theory u could just freeze down human eggs and spermcells and let them evolve into babies when the planet was in sight, in order to ship millions of ppl at the same time... but that doesn't do anything for the ppl living on earth


what's going to happen is that the world will unite in a sense, with not all these small countries. There will be a different, wider type of government and technology will be focused less on war than on survival. Did you ever read any Asimov? I find his novels a pretty insightful prediction.


nope, i have not, i'm afraid :)

but it's only predictions... after the moonlanding in the 60's predicted that we were living on the moon in the year of 2000... we did surpass their prediction regarding livestyle with our internet, computer, mp3-players and all, though... but the spaceprogram haven't gotten much attention after the coldwar as such... it's still a matter of money and a united world doesn't solve that problem, even though i think the united world seems a bit unrealistic in the first place.


all that needs to happen is that the UN becomes more powerful than any individual nation. Then money can be used for the greater good of the entire world, not just by whatver nation happens to have more of it. The more of an important part the UN plays in the world, the more we move closer to a united world. Religion will eventually be all but wiped out, and there will be almost no cultural differences whatsoever. Eventually humanity will realize that it has to cooperate to survive, and not bomb eachother.


yes, perhaps... but the money should be used on earth and not on the moon. Famine won't be solved by moving to the moon. It's not easier to grow crops and raise animals on the moon than it is on earth.
I do think humanity should realize that cooperating is a good idea... however.. a world with no cultural differences or religion at all is a world i don't to be a part of, and i don't think that's necessary in order for ppl to cooperate.. if ppl didn't have their cultural roots (or religion for some) they would become even more selfdestructive.


then we should all become buddhists. Aye? and maybe change the name of this thread...
but you see, even if we solve the probemson earth, mankind will still expand, and sooner or later we eill be FORCED to emigrate.

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well... overpopulation is not really an issue in the long run...

it will come to end due to global warming in a matter of , which can't be stopped, not even if i stopped today poluting the earth. The tempatures keep rising, melting the ice -> waterlevel rises half a meter-> flooding several countries. Not only that, but the climate belts will move 1000 km up north above equator and 1000 km south below equator, causing masive amount of fertile land to be transformed into desert -> famine -> dying ppl.



dying ppl-> moving to the moon. or mars. or Alpha Centauri.


ha ha... i don't think we have the technology in time. Nor do i think the western countries in about 50 are nearly as rich as we are today. And how are supposed to transfer millions of ppl into space?!? And how are we going to get that kind of money it would require? And which ppl should be moved to the moon... only the 1000 most wealthiest ppl could effort it, so is it really that good a solution?

of course, in science fiction-theory u could just freeze down human eggs and spermcells and let them evolve into babies when the planet was in sight, in order to ship millions of ppl at the same time... but that doesn't do anything for the ppl living on earth


what's going to happen is that the world will unite in a sense, with not all these small countries. There will be a different, wider type of government and technology will be focused less on war than on survival. Did you ever read any Asimov? I find his novels a pretty insightful prediction.


nope, i have not, i'm afraid :)

but it's only predictions... after the moonlanding in the 60's predicted that we were living on the moon in the year of 2000... we did surpass their prediction regarding livestyle with our internet, computer, mp3-players and all, though... but the spaceprogram haven't gotten much attention after the coldwar as such... it's still a matter of money and a united world doesn't solve that problem, even though i think the united world seems a bit unrealistic in the first place.


all that needs to happen is that the UN becomes more powerful than any individual nation. Then money can be used for the greater good of the entire world, not just by whatver nation happens to have more of it. The more of an important part the UN plays in the world, the more we move closer to a united world. Religion will eventually be all but wiped out, and there will be almost no cultural differences whatsoever. Eventually humanity will realize that it has to cooperate to survive, and not bomb eachother.


yes, perhaps... but the money should be used on earth and not on the moon. Famine won't be solved by moving to the moon. It's not easier to grow crops and raise animals on the moon than it is on earth.
I do think humanity should realize that cooperating is a good idea... however.. a world with no cultural differences or religion at all is a world i don't to be a part of, and i don't think that's necessary in order for ppl to cooperate.. if ppl didn't have their cultural roots (or religion for some) they would become even more selfdestructive.


then we should all become buddhists. Aye? and maybe change the name of this thread...
but you see, even if we solve the probemson earth, mankind will still expand, and sooner or later we eill be FORCED to emigrate.


buddhism...eh?
i don't think mankind will keep expanding. Welfare have made us get less children and that will eventually become a problem in my country. Too few young ppl to support the elders and their retirement. It is estimated than in the year of 2010 the population in my country will begin to drop... and like i said.. Global warming will take it's share of ppl too.

besides.. if mankind emigrated to other planets they would be by sending eggs and sperm into space because that's the easiest and most economical, and that doesn't really solve the problem on earth at all.


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