Metal Reviews

you're being silly now. It's not morally wrong to eat proper foot, exercise and attend hospitals, and u can't compare that to altering the human beings to live forever.

this is not just a question about what's morally right. It's also a matter of the consequences for sociaty, economical, familystructures, political and outlook on life/lifestyle etc.

If u only could work for 50-60 years before the body got worned down (of course not with all types of jobs) and needed to be supported by society for 950 years, welfare sociaties would run down the drain very fast and life wouldn't be worth living forever.

And if u could live that long, you would have to live in the state of an 70-years-old body for a 100+ years during your last years.. wow, that's funny...

I don't think it's possible to live that long anyway.. either nature or the humankind itself would just find new ways to kill us.

I'm not silly! You're silly!!!!

The idea was to instant reparation of the body, which means you can work a lot longer. The idea of death is a result of your body being worn down! You age far slower, because your body repairs, that means the same person can gain far more expertise in a theoretical field, that's very good for the economy! People can work far longer that way, they start at the same age so it's much more efficient!

woow... that sounds so much like my otopia.. uhh... working my ass off for 800 years is kewl - sounds like a dream come true! That would surely make me feel free and not owned by the state... isn't it a bit naïv to think it would be fun to be (nearly) immortal in the long run?

besides, the state would still have to support those who are not as fortunate as you, and since it would be imorally, from a humanistic p.o.v, not to prolong the lives of the handicapped, dwarfs, demented, ppl in prison and swedish ppl too --- "they are people too -blaa!", that would still give u lots of trouble.
And ppl who showel dirt all day long for 800 years doesn't gain any expertise in any theoretical fields either.


".. no, because it's only the rich and ppl with a good education who should be allowed to live for thousands of years..."


.. you're silly! - i win!

The rich will get it indeed. Like always. Or are you telling me that healthcare here is just as good as in Afrika? Shoveling dirt for 800 years? How about trying another job every once in a while

so what u're saying is... healthcare is better here than in africa, does that mean that everybody should be turned into semi-robots at birth? if so, u would have all the problems i just told u about. If handicaps should be live forever there would only become of them over time, meaning sociaty would have to give more and more money away, since they would normally pass away over time. And who sais all ppl want immortality? Ppl who could live for thousands of year would always end up commiting suicide for various reasons even before being able to enjoy being old, anyway.

Some ppl were "meant" to shovel dirt all their life, since they're either too lazy or incapable of getting an education. And forcing all ppl to work their ass of for an eternity or forcing them to get an education will take away their personal freedom.

And if only the rich people could effort getting immortal you would most likely see that ppl get divided into two groups. The strong and the weak. An upper and lower class to an even bigger extend than it is today. Furthermore dictators could rule for thousands of years, that would be very nice, indeed.

or... on the other hand it could be the immortal ones who end up becoming the slaves of the mortal once, since the mortal ones could retire early while the immortal keep working.

and if it was a matter of choice you would still have two groups of ppl. And ppl nowadays wants to hire ppl who are healthy, they are more reliable in the long run, so in the end nobody would hire a mortal since they eventually gets sick or die. So ppl would be forced to live a long life against their will if they wanted a job.

i think we should make a radical schange in society. We should have a much lower population, longer life expectancies and we should focus our technology to facilitating manual labor rather than weapons technology.

probably not gonna happen since you can't get people to do what you want them to with manual labour technology

There's only one way I would prolong my life indefinitely, and that is if I could completely erase all my memories at will. One of the drawbacks of growing up is that you tend to run out of new experiences.

Makes me want to listen to the new Vision Divine album.

i find alot of contradictions here in your utopia. If u want a smaller population u better start killing now, and if ppl aren't allowed to get children life lose it's meaning. And with manual labor technology ppl without education would have nothing to do for a long long time, and that group of ppl will always exist no matter what due to various reasons, and with a smaller population there would be no need for all that many ppl with a high education... no need for all ppl to be doctors and lawyers, and such a society wouldn't be able to funktion at all. Besides, life would only get more complicated, and yet boring and meaningless.

most teenagers think life is fun and want to stay that way for ever because everything is new and exiting, but once u get old and get a real job u want to be able to retire after 50-70 years and hand over the torch to the next generation.

my utopia is a smaller population too, of course.. but with less to no technology at all and a simple lifestyle

I think pets would become very popular.