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I guess if you are into their older stuff than this would be a dissapointment. However, I like what I hear and I'm someone who isn't as familiar with the older stuff. So for someone like myself, can one say if I like this album that I would like the older stuff even more? :?


If you like epic black metal, yes. Think of this one but with longer songs, and a much more grandiose approach to the riffs and atmosphere.


Blargh, people used to give me similair responses to similiar questions and it downright pissed me off.


Why? How can you describe music relative to an album that is radically different? Give me a better answer then :wink:


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following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Jeff@Metalreviews wrote:
I guess if you are into their older stuff than this would be a dissapointment. However, I like what I hear and I'm someone who isn't as familiar with the older stuff. So for someone like myself, can one say if I like this album that I would like the older stuff even more? :?


If you like epic black metal, yes. Think of this one but with longer songs, and a much more grandiose approach to the riffs and atmosphere.


Blargh, people used to give me similair responses to similiar questions and it downright pissed me off.


Why? How can you describe music relative to an album that is radically different? Give me a better answer then :wink:


I probably would have said something like:

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It depends, itr eally isn't the same band, if the new one is basically the kind of metal you like, then no. If you enjoy any traditonal black metal (almost no similarities with this new one) then yes. Basically just try before you buy.


All I'm saying, is the question only needed a very simple answer, you're answer imo was...I don't know, too convoluted. That's just me though, when I firstb starting lsiteneing to metal people left me dumbfounded with these elaborate explanations of a band's music that could be made into a novel. Y'know, i'd just give a fairly simple answer, maybe put a couple of well known comparisons in there. Depends on whose asking the question really.


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Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Jeff@Metalreviews wrote:
I guess if you are into their older stuff than this would be a dissapointment. However, I like what I hear and I'm someone who isn't as familiar with the older stuff. So for someone like myself, can one say if I like this album that I would like the older stuff even more? :?


If you like epic black metal, yes. Think of this one but with longer songs, and a much more grandiose approach to the riffs and atmosphere.


Blargh, people used to give me similair responses to similiar questions and it downright pissed me off.


Why? How can you describe music relative to an album that is radically different? Give me a better answer then :wink:


I probably would have said something like:

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It depends, itr eally isn't the same band, if the new one is basically the kind of metal you like, then no. If you enjoy any traditonal black metal (almost no similarities with this new one) then yes. Basically just try before you buy.


All I'm saying, is the question only needed a very simple answer, you're answer imo was...I don't know, too convoluted. That's just me though, when I firstb starting lsiteneing to metal people left me dumbfounded with these elaborate explanations of a band's music that could be made into a novel. Y'know, i'd just give a fairly simple answer, maybe put a couple of well known comparisons in there. Depends on whose asking the question really.


Well, its hard to describe, especially that band. I try to be quasi-philosophical like everyone else here but i just cant get it right :oops:


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following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Jeff@Metalreviews wrote:
I guess if you are into their older stuff than this would be a dissapointment. However, I like what I hear and I'm someone who isn't as familiar with the older stuff. So for someone like myself, can one say if I like this album that I would like the older stuff even more? :?


If you like epic black metal, yes. Think of this one but with longer songs, and a much more grandiose approach to the riffs and atmosphere.


Blargh, people used to give me similair responses to similiar questions and it downright pissed me off.


Why? How can you describe music relative to an album that is radically different? Give me a better answer then :wink:


I probably would have said something like:

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It depends, itr eally isn't the same band, if the new one is basically the kind of metal you like, then no. If you enjoy any traditonal black metal (almost no similarities with this new one) then yes. Basically just try before you buy.


All I'm saying, is the question only needed a very simple answer, you're answer imo was...I don't know, too convoluted. That's just me though, when I firstb starting lsiteneing to metal people left me dumbfounded with these elaborate explanations of a band's music that could be made into a novel. Y'know, i'd just give a fairly simple answer, maybe put a couple of well known comparisons in there. Depends on whose asking the question really.


Well, its hard to describe, especially that band. I try to be quasi-philosophical like everyone else here but i just cant get it right :oops:


Haha. Oh well.

That's what I try not to be, usually, I use such amazing words as "fuck bloody sex poo". 8)


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Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Jeff@Metalreviews wrote:
I guess if you are into their older stuff than this would be a dissapointment. However, I like what I hear and I'm someone who isn't as familiar with the older stuff. So for someone like myself, can one say if I like this album that I would like the older stuff even more? :?


If you like epic black metal, yes. Think of this one but with longer songs, and a much more grandiose approach to the riffs and atmosphere.


Blargh, people used to give me similair responses to similiar questions and it downright pissed me off.


Why? How can you describe music relative to an album that is radically different? Give me a better answer then :wink:


I probably would have said something like:

Quote:
It depends, itr eally isn't the same band, if the new one is basically the kind of metal you like, then no. If you enjoy any traditonal black metal (almost no similarities with this new one) then yes. Basically just try before you buy.


All I'm saying, is the question only needed a very simple answer, you're answer imo was...I don't know, too convoluted. That's just me though, when I firstb starting lsiteneing to metal people left me dumbfounded with these elaborate explanations of a band's music that could be made into a novel. Y'know, i'd just give a fairly simple answer, maybe put a couple of well known comparisons in there. Depends on whose asking the question really.


Well, its hard to describe, especially that band. I try to be quasi-philosophical like everyone else here but i just cant get it right :oops:


Haha. Oh well.

That's what I try not to be, usually, I use such amazing words as "fuck bloody sex poo". 8)


My favourites are 'and', 'the' and 'cat' :wink:


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following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Metalhead_Bastard wrote:
following the reaper wrote:
Jeff@Metalreviews wrote:
I guess if you are into their older stuff than this would be a dissapointment. However, I like what I hear and I'm someone who isn't as familiar with the older stuff. So for someone like myself, can one say if I like this album that I would like the older stuff even more? :?


If you like epic black metal, yes. Think of this one but with longer songs, and a much more grandiose approach to the riffs and atmosphere.


Blargh, people used to give me similair responses to similiar questions and it downright pissed me off.


Why? How can you describe music relative to an album that is radically different? Give me a better answer then :wink:


I probably would have said something like:

Quote:
It depends, itr eally isn't the same band, if the new one is basically the kind of metal you like, then no. If you enjoy any traditonal black metal (almost no similarities with this new one) then yes. Basically just try before you buy.


All I'm saying, is the question only needed a very simple answer, you're answer imo was...I don't know, too convoluted. That's just me though, when I firstb starting lsiteneing to metal people left me dumbfounded with these elaborate explanations of a band's music that could be made into a novel. Y'know, i'd just give a fairly simple answer, maybe put a couple of well known comparisons in there. Depends on whose asking the question really.


Well, its hard to describe, especially that band. I try to be quasi-philosophical like everyone else here but i just cant get it right :oops:


Haha. Oh well.

That's what I try not to be, usually, I use such amazing words as "fuck bloody sex poo". 8)


My favourites are 'and', 'the' and 'cat' :wink:


I like them, after I looked em up on dictionary.com anyways.


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My problem with this isn't the sound. it's that the songs are so flipping boring. Listening to the title track now, and after one listen there's really nothing to say. Yes, some bits are catchy, and it is a kinda progression from Rebel Eggs, but the drumming is shite (sounds like a drum machine), and I just can't take it seriously, which is where BM either stands or falls for me. And the guitar just sounds weak. Varg could do better with his casio!

Thumbs down.

Neraly bought Volcano before. Reading what I've said above, and knowing that I like Rebel Eggs, do you think I'd like Volcano? Black Lava and Fuel For Hatred are the tracks I've heard, the former sounded shit and the latter was like a weaker Havoc Vulture...


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My problem with this isn't the sound. it's that the songs are so flipping boring. Listening to the title track now, and after one listen there's really nothing to say. Yes, some bits are catchy, and it is a kinda progression from Rebel Eggs, but the drumming is shite (sounds like a drum machine), and I just can't take it seriously, which is where BM either stands or falls for me. And the guitar just sounds weak. Varg could do better with his casio!

Thumbs down.

Neraly bought Volcano before. Reading what I've said above, and knowing that I like Rebel Eggs, do you think I'd like Volcano? Black Lava and Fuel For Hatred are the tracks I've heard, the former sounded shit and the latter was like a weaker Havoc Vulture...


Yeah, the title track isn't one of the shining spots on the album. I think the last half of the album is where the goods are delivered, but I do like their new sound. As far as the drums, you must have gotten a crappy quality mp3, for they don't sound like a drum machine. It's just Frost showing that he can do more than blast-beat frenzies. It's def. not BM though, not even by the standards that Darkthrone have been setting as of late. Take that shackle off of the album and it comes off a bit better.

As far as Volcano goes, you chose the two worst songs on the album to listen to. Mental Mercury and Possessed are my two favorites. It's not as complex as Rebel Extravaganza, so I don't really know. It is the same style, but rebel is a brilliant album, and a lot of stuff is going to look weak compared to it. I would advise you to DL all of both Volcano and Now Diabolical, and just give them both an honest listen. That way if you don't like them, at least you didn't spen any money it. It's hard to say if you would like them based off of RE, for although there are similarities, they are still different.


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Yeah, the title track isn't one of the shining spots on the album. I think the last half of the album is where the goods are delivered, but I do like their new sound. As far as the drums, you must have gotten a crappy quality mp3, for they don't sound like a drum machine. It's just Frost showing that he can do more than blast-beat frenzies. It's def. not BM though, not even by the standards that Darkthrone have been setting as of late. Take that shackle off of the album and it comes off a bit better.

As far as Volcano goes, you chose the two worst songs on the album to listen to. Mental Mercury and Possessed are my two favorites. It's not as complex as Rebel Extravaganza, so I don't really know. It is the same style, but rebel is a brilliant album, and a lot of stuff is going to look weak compared to it. I would advise you to DL all of both Volcano and Now Diabolical, and just give them both an honest listen. That way if you don't like them, at least you didn't spen any money it. It's hard to say if you would like them based off of RE, for although there are similarities, they are still different.


Fair enough. As I said, the sound's not that dreadful, but it's the songs, they just seem like weaker versions of what they've already done. Still, I'll give them a listen...

Edit: As for the drums, it sounds as if the songs are based around them, rather than the riffs. The drumming's not boring, but it is rather mechanically precise, and I get that Frost's a good drummer, but it just sounds far too controlled. Where's the chaos? Where's the anger? This is more of a grumble than a scream.

If after a hundred listens one 'got' it in some way I'd be praising it to the skies, but as far as I can see this is just watered-down mainstream-friendly post-black. That's it, after such a career?! Good luck to Mr Wong in becoming the biggest BM band ever, but don't expect much support.

Still, I'll give them a listen...


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If nothing else the 2 most recent Satyricon albums have forced me to really enjoy Rebel Extravaganza, which when it came out I wasn't a big fan of it.


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Zad wrote:
My problem with this isn't the sound. it's that the songs are so flipping boring. Listening to the title track now, and after one listen there's really nothing to say. Yes, some bits are catchy, and it is a kinda progression from Rebel Eggs, but the drumming is shite (sounds like a drum machine), and I just can't take it seriously, which is where BM either stands or falls for me. And the guitar just sounds weak. Varg could do better with his casio!

Thumbs down.

Neraly bought Volcano before. Reading what I've said above, and knowing that I like Rebel Eggs, do you think I'd like Volcano? Black Lava and Fuel For Hatred are the tracks I've heard, the former sounded shit and the latter was like a weaker Havoc Vulture...


Yeah, the title track isn't one of the shining spots on the album. I think the last half of the album is where the goods are delivered, but I do like their new sound. As far as the drums, you must have gotten a crappy quality mp3, for they don't sound like a drum machine. It's just Frost showing that he can do more than blast-beat frenzies. It's def. not BM though, not even by the standards that Darkthrone have been setting as of late. Take that shackle off of the album and it comes off a bit better.

As far as Volcano goes, you chose the two worst songs on the album to listen to. Mental Mercury and Possessed are my two favorites. It's not as complex as Rebel Extravaganza, so I don't really know. It is the same style, but rebel is a brilliant album, and a lot of stuff is going to look weak compared to it. I would advise you to DL all of both Volcano and Now Diabolical, and just give them both an honest listen. That way if you don't like them, at least you didn't spen any money it. It's hard to say if you would like them based off of RE, for although there are similarities, they are still different.


I agree it does get better towards the end.

But i also agree with Zad, the drums take too much focus, and not because they are good, but because its Frost behind the kit. And he's y'know, like, God.

And the vocals are definitely lame. The songs though, are so strangely minimal, as in sounding sparse and weak, not like the kind of minimalism you would find on a Burzum album. If it sounded less cold, like the guitars and drums worked organically together to form a BAND, not just two dudes jamming, it would be much better imo.

This could have been good in an alternate universe. if the production was different, and the songs just had a BIT of atmosphere, i might actually like it.


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This is growing on me. Dammit.

FUCK YOU - YOU CAN NEVER WIN!!

Everything I said above still counts, but the MySpace songs are weirdly addictive. Might get this after all... :roll:


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No kidding. Part of me hates this stuff because it is flat out inferior to their earlier albums, but Satyricon sure has found the formula to weirdly hypnotic sameness.


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I love it. Catchy and headbanging moments like you said.. what's not to like? I don't care what they've done before.. the past is the past.


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I love it. Catchy and headbanging moments like you said.. what's not to like? I don't care what they've done before.. the past is the past.


:omfg: Welcome back! :D


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I saw them live, and they played only four new songs: ND, KING, TPB & ANE ;)

Killing live versions! Unfortunately they didn't play my favorite Rite Of Our Cross :(


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Zad wrote:
This is growing on me. Dammit.

FUCK YOU - YOU CAN NEVER WIN!!




Yep - this album completely grew on me as well...

In my top 10 of the year at this point.


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Wow i just heard this album, and i must say that i liked it, lots of Black & Roll headbanging moments.


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