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 Post subject: 'Evanescence - The Open Door (#3568)'
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:48 pm 
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Evanescence - The Open Door
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Quoted: 60 / 100


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:05 pm 
There's lot's of reviews that doesn't mention each songs but review the essence of the album as a whole.... you crybabyfan




(no, i don't listen to Evanescence)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:14 pm 
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Wow love that team unity. :blink:

PS: I expected this exact response from Ken.

PPS: I will now use my awesome powaz of clairvoyance to predict a 4-page-minimum shitstorm.


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I dont really like Evanescence that much. Some songs are ok, My Immortal being the only one I heard that I would listen to by my own choosing. I dont see the point in making fun of the band though, at all. What is the point of this review? There might be 4 sentences in that whole page that properly talks about the album.

"..even though more credit should probably be given to Mozart or Beethoven than to any original Amy Lee piano arranging." - I also dont understand the point in this sentence here. How can they be compared at all?

Im not saying someone who loves the band should review this, but if the whole idea was to insult Amy Lee and her band's new album then time should have been spent on writing a good review for something people either want to see, or something that no one knows about.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:33 pm 
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Radagast wrote:
Wow love that team unity. :blink:

PS: I expected this exact response from Ken.

PPS: I will now use my awesome powaz of clairvoyance to predict a 4-page-minimum shitstorm.


Ha ha, I will stay out of that. Evanesence are what they are and I think the review covered that perfectly..........


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:03 pm 
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Completely unprofessional review. Ken I would love to see a real review on these forums since you scored it as well.


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How did their other album get a 95? :blink:


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Dago wrote:
How did their other album get a 95? :blink:

That really is the brazilian dollar question.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:27 pm 
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First of all, I must say that I'm not a big fan of Evanescence. I bought their first album at the time, but quickly got tired by it. The only song I can really listen to again is Tourniquet.

But...even thought I'm not a fan, this review should have been an editorial, not an album review. It's only some Amy Lee bashing...which, I think...is a waste of time.

I mean, how can you critic a songwriter who writes about himself ? Isn't that the biggest source of inspiration ? So f*cking what if she writes about herself ? Why do you give a damn ? Will you bash the Angtoria album for the same reasons ? Or Stratovarius albums ? Or maybe you only want to hear songs about spinning carrousels ? :lame:

If this can help some people in thinking that they're not the only want to suffer, then I think it's great. Anyway...point is, you should have reviewed the album...or else, give it a "crap of the month" logo saying it's not worth reviewing ! :huh:


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 Post subject: because it rocks !
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:13 am 
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Dago wrote:
How did their other album get a 95? :blink:


Well because its a killer album, that's why !

That new one is a really lame, whiny, uninspired, unoriginal and boring album though... 60 is almost too good a quote for this pathetic excuse for a second album (especially it took like forever to do... at this rate and with their current inspiration level, maybe in 2030 we'll get an even more boring third album).

Just my 2 cents,
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Not a fan either, but I have to agree that the review wasn't very good. I don't like when the reviewer gets all uptight about band members or whatever.. the worst example of this is probably Blabbermouth's review of Dissection's Reinkaos though.. their reviews in general are pretty much worthless, but that one was hilarious to say the least. And I'm not saying that just because I disagreed with his opinion on the album.. well, whatever :rolleyes:

Anyways, I've never actually listened to a whole Evanescence album, but I used to think some of the songs they played on the radio was kinda ok, Call Me When You're Sober however was.. well, extremely boring. :zzz:


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Eh, double post. I might take the time to say though that I don't think the score of 60 seems to fit well with the review in general.


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You know that "brown note" in South Park? Well that is what listening to Amy Lee singing does to me.


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Was going to get it then listened instore got bored pretty quick and turned it off.


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The Open Door's better than Fallen. Better songwriting, better range, her voice is better. Deserves a better review...


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Tlaloc wrote:
You know that "brown note" in South Park? Well that is what listening to Amy Lee singing does to me.


HAHAHAHA!!! :lol:


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I believe the Mozart/Beethoven comment is that some of the piano parts are just classical pieces redone now for them (But don't think neoclassical metal)

I think one of the songs is based around Mozart's Requiem (I would have to listen again). Thus children will think Lee wrote these melodies, when she gives no credit at all to these composers.

And I do think the review sucked. Talk about the album next time! I don't even know how it got a 60 when you mentioned nothing good about the album


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Bah Evanescence suck, I'm not even going to read the review. And yes, I as well predict a min 4-page storm.

@chris: Wo bisch dan die ganz ziet gseh??

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:08 pm 
metalNESS wrote:
Tlaloc wrote:
You know that "brown note" in South Park? Well that is what listening to Amy Lee singing does to me.


HAHAHAHA!!! :lol:


+1 :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:51 pm 
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Okay some of youse can't get past my Amy bashin. Let me tell you this though, if Bruce Dickinson decided that on the next album he was going to sing and play piano and the rest of the band were to be relagated to background musicians, would you say Iron Maiden have really fucked up this time, or, who the fuck does Bruce Dickinson think he is thinking that he is more important than the band. There, chow down on that little dilema!!!!

Anyway I feel I have the right to reply about all the shit this review has caused (Sorry it is a wee bit long):

The Silent Man Wrote:

I don’t really like Evanescence that much. Some songs are ok, My Immortal being the only one I heard that I would listen to by my own choosing. I don’t see the point in making fun of the band though, at all. What is the point of this review? There might be 4 sentences in that whole page that properly talks about the album.

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I did not make fun of the band. What I did and what the point of the review is, 95% of the music is Amy Lee playing the piano and venting her spleen on people who have done her wrong. The four sentences that properly talk about the album is the other 5%. How can I elaborate on 5% on the album, especially as that 5% isn’t really all that good? I felt I had to concentrate on the majority content of the album and tell potential listeners what to expect - Which is Amy Lee whining about everyone who has dumped on her. Had Ben Moody still been with the band then I would have expected a far more powerful and diverse album. As you may have read in my review, gone are the crunchy, chugging guitar riffs and the soaring, memorable choruses. Had Ben Moody anything to do with this album then I’m sure all that and more would no doubt have been included.

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"..even though more credit should probably be given to Mozart or Beethoven than to any original Amy Lee piano arranging." - I also don’t understand the point in this sentence here. How can they be compared at all?

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" ….the latter of which is derived from Mozart's Requiem. Though Lee deserves credit for sampling a piece composed in the 18th century, it is telling that that the only memorable hook in "The Open Door" comes from a work from the Classical period.

Dago Wrote:

How did their other album get a 95.

Ross’s Reply:

Fallen was a damn good album!!

Cenotaph Wrote:

I might take the time to say though that I don't think the score of 60 seems to fit well with the review in general.

Ross’s Reply:

Did you read the review? ‘The Open Door’ has just gone platinum in the US. How can I justify giving an album that went platinum a score of 30 and a Crap Of The Month Skeleton like what I was going to do?? Granted a lot of owners of ‘Fallen’ will buy it blind expecting something as powerful and haunting as ‘Fallen’ and I will believe they will be disappointed. But I digress, if an album has gone platinum, surely it would be wrong for me to come straight out and say it’s crap – One million people can’t be wrong; can they??? As I also said in my review, all the girls sitting on the stairs crying at the end of a party, all those who’s hearts are broken when they get dumped and persons of that ilk are going to love this album. As for listening for ENJOYMENT, I don’t think so!

Lyrics etc that Amy Lee uses to have a dig at her wrongdoers:

‘Call Me When You’re Sober’ – Aimed at Shaun Morgan

Other stuff I gleaned courtesy of various places on the Interweb while researching this album are:

"The Open Door" begins with a breath. Clearly, Amy Lee has a lot to get off her chest.

“The Open Door” loses the punchy power rifts and instead persuades the listener with piano and airy vocals.


“Fittingly, then, Lee alone is the main event on "The Open Door," the newest album from the band. Tumultuous relationships and loneliness manifest themselves clearly on the tracks, all of which are written by Lee in the first person. It feels as if each one is cathartic for her, and she seems to have a song for everyone.

"You know you live to break me," she accuses in "Sweet Sacrifice," apparently addressing Moody. "Are you still too weak to survive your mistakes?" A number of tracks appear to be aimed at her ex, especially the first single, "Call Me When You're Sober," and a piano number entitled "Lithium," which is sung from his apparently pathetic perspective.”

“Rather than remain subsumed in the music and part of a larger experience, Lee grabs the reins of the musical production, making the album her own and relegating the rest of the band into obscurity.”

“Lee spends some significant time on the same tired themes of breaking up and the disdainful thought of, “Gosh, it’s sooo tough being me since I’m so successful.” (she dips into that pool on a song called “Weight Of The World”. Natch)

“Take “Snow White Queen”, an almost-Industrial haunt relating to – and identifying with – a stalker. This is certainly a place where it’d be easy to take the trite-and-true route of “get out of my life”; however, Lee is still young enough to see where her obsessed fan is coming from, as she could have been that girl herself if things had gone differently.”

“In the final track, “Good Enough”, Lee wonders if she’s good enough for her man...God.”

And here is the one that really made me go “Oh c’mon Girl, get a fuckin grip!”:

“In "Like You," Lee addresses her sister, who died in childhood, singing that she longs "to be like you, lie cold in the ground like you." – now how many tearstained young girls whose life has just fallen apart because their boyfriend has just dumped are going to look at old Amy as a kindred spirit. How many of you out there read into this that she has thought about suicide somewhere along the line! How many kids are going to hear this and say “Yup, That’s for me – Goodbye cruel world!”

In Summary:

You have said I have not reviewed the album. Okay here it is in a nutshell – 90 percent of the album is a platform for Amy Lee to vent her spleen on all those who have dumped her. There are no crunchy, chugging riffs with memorable choruses only Amy singing along on her piano. She even does the backing vocals. Sorry I can’t say too much about the Guitars, Bass and Drums as they weren’t used enough to form an opinion. – If you’ve read my review carefully, you may have noticed that all I have just said is in there; you just chose to ignore it and accuse me of Amy bashing!


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