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Abortion: Yay or Nay?
Yay 79%  79%  [ 22 ]
Nay 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:19 pm 
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there was a referendum here in Portugal today regading this subject, and people won't shut the hell up about it (despite the fact that only 30% of the registered voters actually exercised their right!), so i thought i'd ask what you guys think.

"lol azrael here in _______ we decided over that __ years ago!"
i know, fuck off :P

the question was the legalization of abortion in all cases (not just rape, fetus malformation, etc), up to the 10th week of pregnancy.

i say YES, in every case.

a big complaint from the NO crowd here was that legalization would lead to liberalization and that people would abort left and right. i don't think that'd happen, people understand that it's an extreme measure and only to be used as a last resort.

the biggest problem with both sides was that some considered the 10 week old fetus "alive" while others didn't, and imo that's the main reason why people rarely change opinions regarding abortion. to me, a 10 week old fetus simply isn't "alive" like you or me, and (as far as i know) it doesn't even have its own heart beating at that point. to me, considering an abortion at that stage murder is the same as saying that birth control pills = murder.

so, what do you think?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:25 pm 
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I'm always up for fetus removal.


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I'm all in for abortion, 10 days seems to be a bit short, I personally would see more benefit in 10 years. In some cases, abortion should be possible in the post-adolescence period. That'll teach em.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:34 pm 
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yeah, if it were up to me i'd legalize retroactive abortion up to 12 years, and 16 in case of emo*.

*between the ages of 12-16 two factors would decide whether a rectroactive abortion would take place:
1. "males" - if the hair in front of their faces covered the eyes, then there clearly there would be no solution other than RA.
2. females - if the chick has potential to be hot in the future then she would be spared from RA.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:35 pm 
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yeah, if it were up to me i'd legalize retroactive abortion up to 12 years, and 16 in case of emo*.

*between the ages of 12-16 two factors would decide whether a rectroactive abortion would take place:
1. "males" - if the hair in front of their faces covered the eyes, then there clearly there would be no solution other than RA.
2. females - if the chick has potential to be hot in the future then she would be spared from RA.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:42 pm 
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Countries that legalize abortion tend to experience a drop in crime about 18 years later. The reason, of course, is that abortion=less unwanted kids=less neglected kids=less angry and bitter adults=less crime.

So, yay.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:05 pm 
fuck hte police dudes


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:06 pm 
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Yay. Anything that goes against the Vatican and Christianity in general is positive.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:08 pm 
Dago wrote:
Yay. Anything that goes against the Vatican and Christianity in general is positive.


Yeah! Fuck Italy!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:11 pm 
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I'm for it.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:26 pm 
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I'm always up for fetus removal.

:lol:

If it weren't for abortion I'd have a 16-year-old kid right now. :ph34r:


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:43 pm 
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if it weren't for abortion a 16 year-old kid would have you as his dad :ph34r:

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Azrael wrote:
if it weren't for abortion a 16 year-old kid would have you as his dad :ph34r:


Cara and Pete could be Ken's children!


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Brahm_K wrote:
Azrael wrote:
if it weren't for abortion a 16 year-old kid would have you as his dad :ph34r:


Cara and Pete could be Ken's children!


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As a male, I don't see what it has to do with me. It's the woman's choice, so she should be able to do it as late as she wants.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:45 am 
Hahaha. Crazy right? I can't imagine having a 16-year-old son or daughter. That's just insane.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:59 am 
Definite yay.


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No. Completely disagree. If you’re not ready for a kid don't have sex. I understand that may sound ridiculous, but if you don't think you can raise a child keep it in your pants.


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metalNESS wrote:
No. Completely disagree. If you’re not ready for a kid don't have sex. I understand that may sound ridiculous, but if you don't think you can raise a child keep it in your pants.


+1

Not really 100% sure where I stand on it, though. I agree with NESS, but... rape as an exception, maybe???


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