Metal Reviews

Time to disarm the American civillian population, methinks.

I was thinking today what would happen if the shooter chose the NRA headquarters instead of a university.

Almost all of Europe and Asia does it, it can't be to bad. I was in the Military for 6 years and never shot anything, Ken just banged skanks......it isn't all killing. Being a squadie would help you and all the other slap happy chavs your country produced for sure.

You guys are just ignorant or have no concept of America, seriously. It isn't even a personal thing about being an American, I don't even live here a lot of the time, but you all are just ignorant.

Yeah, I know. I guess all these mass school shootings are clouding my judgement.

This is actually surprising. It's surprising because it happened at a university. A highschool is more understandable, what with extreme bullying and the like. But university generally has an air of respect; guy must have been a die-hard misanthrop.

Oh, and this is funny, and I'm sorry.

I agree with you too.

Did you even know anyone who went there?

Time to do something about the gun policy in America. If you can buy guns with mailoder, then there is something wrong..

I can't believe all you hippies that think allowing less nutcases to carry guns on campuses is a good idea. As FOX news argues here, if only more students were walking around with firearms, then maybe this could have turned into a proper firefight instead of just a one sided thing.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200704170001

Also, I agree with whoever said that this MAY have something to do with an extremely intense "winner and loser" type culture. I don't necessarily blame the parents. You can have a great upbringing and still turn into a fucking mentalist.

Im an American and I am anti-gun. I will also say that it is ridiculous to think that if gun laws were stricter this wouldnt have happened. The shooter could have just built a bomb or found some other way to kill people if he really wanted to. And just because something is illegal doesnt mean that you cant get it. Its actually pretty damn eassy to get all sorts of things illegally. Maybe the guy was just nuts, or maybe he just had no capacity to deal with life. Either way, he is by no means the average American that I know.
Another thing is that this really isnt the time to comdemn America or take the same old rehashed jabs at America that every non-American takes at every opportunity. The fact is I can walk down the street without feeling like I am going to get shot. I have never had a gun pulled on me and I grew up in NY. Luckily, along with the foreign attitude of bashing America comes the American attitude of not really giving a shit what anybody else thinks. And to make things clear I am anti-gun, I dont believe we should be in Iraq, and I do think America should mind its own business sometimes. But I think everybody should be focusing on the fact that these were all kids that died, not trained soldiers and not political activists. On a much smaller scale than "the world stage" of politics and America bashing, there are 30 some-odd families out there that just lost a child. I think they would rather have a little respect, at least for right now, than to hear the same old "its America's own fault" bullshit.

Well it turns out the shooter was a Chinese national who was here on an Education Visa, so I guess we can all blame Communism. The authorities also believe he is the same person who called in bomb threats the previous week to test out the securitiy teams response times. So I don't know what to say other than VT has some serious security issues and the guy was an obvious sociopath. If he didn't have access to a gun he would have just built a bomb instead. Nothing was going to stop this maniac's thirst for carnage.

Claiming people are being anti-American because they disagree with the gun laws is about as dumb as being labelled an anti-Semite because you disagree with Israel's levelling of Lebannon. And no, I'm not trying to turn this into yet another Middle East shitfest. The point is this;

1996, Martin Bryant shoots 37 people dead at Port Arthur in Tasmania.

Bryant is locked up and the key thrown away.

Gun laws changed so that it is illegal to own anything more powerful than a spud gun. Even then you need to have a cavity search to qualify as being eligible to own one.

Existing guns are bought back from their owners by the government and destroyed. Rednecks have a sook, but nobody really cares.

No more killing sprees.

He used a 9mm. Not exactly heavy artillery.

1 - I dont think disagreeing with a gun law makes somebody Anit-American. I think jumping on the back of a tragedy to make a political point does. Its all about the tone in which things are said. ANd I wasnt singling you, specifically, out.
2 - Im Jewish and I cant stand Israel and their policies and I dont think America should back them. (we are not on this subject though)
3 - The area within 10 minutes of my house probably has a larger population than all of Tasmania, so your notion of law enforcement doesnt really apply here. Things operate on a larger scale. Not to mention that while I dont think people should carry guns, I am not so fast to just make anything illegal, because that is a road that has no end.
4 - What do cavity searches have to do with a gun permit?

Tasmania is an Australian state. And I should have mentioned that our strict gun laws extend to pistol ownership as well. By cavity searches I was obviously exaggerating the point that it is extremely difficult to obtain a gun here, and downright illegal to carry one on you outside of your private property. But I have to say that the gun culture that exists in America is non-existent here. Obviously because there are so few guns around, but also because the things themselves are not glorified here as they are in the US.

I know Tasmania is an Autralian state. I am only saying that population density makes it real hard to make something illegal that is currently legal. Not to mention something that is such a sore point in American politics. Aside from all this I am a firm believer in that it is the person to blame not the weapon. And just because something is illegal doesnt mean that it cant be obtained. The world is a violent place and humans are a violent race. Bombs, guns, rocks, arrows, cannons. Whatever it takes, when somebody wants to kill people they are going to.

Going in another direction with this, since it has come out that the gunman was a Chinese National, maybe this is just another tragedy to look at to prove to Americans that we need to be more careful who we let in this country. I wonder if the gunman had any history of violence or mental illness in China.

Man, this sucks. As Jaden said, I can see this sort of thing happening in a high school, because high school kids are bastards (I should know, being one myself) but in a university? that's insane! here's a (paraphrased) (mis)quote from the Simpsons, which I think sums up my view on the killer. Which may be wrong, I didn't know the fucking guy

Since I don't see it said, the shooter was actually South Korean.

Exactly, the man was mentally ill, his relationship went crap and he just had a fight with his girl. He went psycho. You have to be retarted yourself to claim that he would still have shot all those people if he didn't have a gun. Almost all of these things are done from impulsive, nothing of this was planned. I have no clue how to get a gun here in the Netherlands, even if guns we easy to come by but illegal, he would still have to get it, enough time for him to cool down and realise it's a bad idea. That's why these things are rarely premeditated and almost always an impuls.

Of course you do lapdog. It was a "ridiculous" statement by his own admission, so just drop it.



Please explain to me how in the hell that has anything to do with it. I went to a college very similar in size and atmosphere to VT, and trust me, whether you know someone involved or not, it hits home. It is not off base for any parent, student, even citizen in this country to be rightfully depressed and frightened by this whole ordeal.