Zad wrote:
Whatever people say, the death of innocents is a tragedy. None of the people killed deserved it.
What does puzzle me is this obstinacy Americans have. Like us British, but to a fascist level. We moan about foreigners, most of our tabloid press is dedicated to how immigrants ruin the lives of us whities. For Americans, whose country has been built from the start on immigrants, to start saying things like, hey, maybe we should be careful who we let in the country, is a sad sign of the times.
Who said America was considering anything about restricting immigration?
Zad wrote:
Another way this obstinacy comes out is through the highly controversial issue of guns. Let's face it, you guys have had students being shot since the 60s, and then by state police quashing 'rioters'. Does it count as an improvement that at least it isn't the coppers doing the killing this time? Oh, excuse me, I'm trivialising the deaths of the innocents. Of course, change nothing, learn nothing, and continue to allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to buy weapons capable of killing many just because, well hey, we needed them back then to kick them goshdarned Brits out, who knows, maybe that Tony Blare guy'll invade again?
I hate to say it, but if having two elections stolen by a right-wing, Bible-bashing corporation sycophant isn't going to cause a bloody uprising, then you're all fucked. I understand. Might as well give up, the collective inhabitants of that mighty country aren't going to give up their God-given right to keep sub-machine guns just because a few goddamn commies and satanisers shoot a few kids. Oh, excuse me, I'm trivialising the deaths of the innocents.
I hated GWB from before day one, but he won both elections fairly. Should only the popular vote be counted? Of course.
I don't own a gun, never will own a gun, and don't know anyone personally that owns a gun. Your myths about America are pretty amusing though, on the other hand I visited your country a few years ago and would jump at the chance to go back. Castles=
Zad wrote:
What will it take? How many will have to die? You look at countries like England or Holland, and then say, well, just because there's no guns doesn't mean that there are less deaths! You see, there are MORE PEOPLE in America, and these extra people think different. So you, with your pot cafes and Monarchy, can't tell us what to do. You agree with each other, well, it's because you fags will agree to any old liberal nonsense that gets ejaculated out. Look at Follow The Reaper, he agreed with that pot-smoking unMetal fag what does the modellin', so he must be automatically derided.
Misha made an insensitive remark considering what happened. FTR appears to be a pretty impressionable young fellow and considers Misha to be quite the music guru. He is eager to agree with him on many other things as well, such as Misha's offensive remark---that he claimed was to stir things up.
Zad wrote:
We understand you, us Euros. You think an ocean makes our poor little brains melt, what with all the pot, lack of religion and moderately honest politicians, well, sad to say, you're wrong. Adam, you'd honestly send your daughter to a school where a shooting may take place because, gosh, that's just the way it is? Are you fucking sane? Sure, we might be looking at it a little differently because the worstest thing that happens at schools is drugs and the odd stabbing, but wait, we're not qualified to tell Americans what to do. We had our revolution before you did. We used to rule your country back in the days before your biological ancestors had even thought of emigrating from eastern Europe. And we can't suggest, hey, lose the shooters, because ... what? It just won't work? How goddamn arrogant you all are.
Eastren Europe?
Yes, congrats on your ancestors ruling America, you Brits had a heck of an empire! You keep mentioning drugs but even in America a heck of a lot of pot is smoked. Again, the shooter wasn't even a US citizen, and many US citizens---like Adam have a right to be extremely upset at what happened.
Zad wrote:
Yes, of course the deaths of the children was a tragedy. And of course, people scratch their heads and say, well, duh, no guns no corpses, and hey, these words may be coming from the mouths (hands, whatever) of people that are younger than you. Does that mean they're worthless? Should I listen to the Pope because he's older than me, and hell, all that life experience must count for something? Fuck that, fuck the pope, and fuck those who won't listen to sense. LOSE THE FRIGGING GUNS. It worked everywhere else, and you're as human, sadly, as the rest of us.
And now watch: Zad hates America, Zad hates freedom, Zad hates the American way. All I can do is
and say, the world keeps turning, the truest thing ever written. More children will die of stupid reasons, and people can say what they like about the reasons. Not taking the first steps, however, is leaving it to God, or the American people. Or are they the same thing...?
I'm against guns but guns aren't the only reason Americans like to shoot each other. Canada, for example, has a lot of guns but hardly any gun murders. I think America has some severe cultural problems that possibly contribute to gun murders along with access to handguns such as: the drug trade, despair in the underclass, or generally a violent, angry culture. I'm quite cynical about my home country and I was against the Iraq War from day one (I thought since when did Afghanistan become Iraq and Osama Bin Laden become Saddam?) but kicking Americans on a day when we many of us are collectively depressed and disgusted isn't fair.
Zad-I'm not quite sure what your point was in your mostly incoherent rant. But at least you got a chance to participate in your favorite pastime, self-aggrandizement.
