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I stand by nearly every word of it, drunk or not.



No, I didn't. That's my take on the situation. Have I ever claimed to be that important? What is this, jealousy? Of what? Where's all this coming from?



We argued in one forum, and mostly kept it within a few threads. Is it our fault that was all there was to read? Why are you bringing old and irrelevant stuff up? What's it got to do with anything?



Fine. Apology accepted.



It made sense. I make more sense drunk than a lot of people here do sober.

Wait.

What?

Zad---If you want to stand by everything you wrote in that rant then fine, I don't see any point to this argument continuing. Lets move on.

Missed that. What she said.

its so obvious and puzzleing when you put it in bold..

I wasn't bashing Euros, I was just pointing out the difference in our laws and ways of thinking..... I think dudes from the Netherlands are some of the coolest people I have ever met, same goes for Swedes. You UK Soccer hooligans are another story though.......

Uh, what? Because she's a little concerned for her safety? What the hell? Do you even know her? No. Did I say she was paranoid to the point of not even wanting to leave the house at all? No. Did I say she sits through her entire bus ride looking around nervously to see who might kill or kidnap her? No...

How about I go ask some of the other students that go to school where she does if they're concerned about their safety, especially ones that ride the bus system or have night classes...



Give me a break. First, yes stuff has happened to her, but I certainly don't owe you an explanation as to what, nor did I give you any indication that something hadn't happened. Once again you want to turn this into a "me vs you" issue and still not answer any real questions.



What the fuck? You have no answers. Just more irrelevant crap and shit that I never said. When did I say that this nation is better off because we have guns? You're the one making the claims about guns here, so fine, back them up and give me a plan.

No, the world is not out to get me. Did I say it was? This nation and its citizens, however, is getting more and more hostile and apathetic to each other everyday. People are starting to reach breaking points, and when that happens, they don't care anymore about who they might hurt or the consequences of their behavior.

I'm a little disappointed you don't seem to have more to say that's actually of value, or an interest in actually examining and understanding the problem. I had a whole list of additional things I was going to talk about that I see here or forgot to mention before. And yeah, I had a few good things to say as well. We're not completely fucked yet, but we're getting there, yes.

...

Now about that quote from my first post about the teacher that suddenly everyone noticed:

http://www1.wsvn.com/news/articles/world/MI44896/

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0417vatech-holocaust0417-ON.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3049678&page=1l

...and there are several more sources. The agenda? Perhaps to push the idea that holocaust survivors have some sort of inherrent credibility. Why does it matter now that he survived it, but more than that, why is it as much the headline as what he actually did? He could have done several great things in his lifetime that probably wouldn't (or didn't) get mentioned here, but boy, someone finds out you survived the holocaust and has to print that right away. Do you really think it's a coincidence?

Since they printed it though, I admit I'd like to know what exactly it was that he survived since I suspect the news is being so vague about it because he really wasn't immediately "threatened". Not the best way to put it perhaps, but you can bet that if he had say... actually been at one of the Nazi camps, that would have been printed with the story.

But yes it was "Holocaust Remembrance Day" on Monday, so I'm willing to give the media a certain amount of benefit of the doubt, even though I suspect they'd have said the same things no matter what day it would have happened.

How come no one blinked an eyelash when I said in the Taake thread that people are being put in jail in Germany for burning the diary of Anne Frank? (oh well, that's another topic)

-Tyrion

I predict zad posting something so he can have the last word

Also I think the holocaust survivor thing is just a dramatic thing the media are using to get peoples attention. Also it is a pretty big part of a person's life, all I really know about my grandpa is that he was a carpenter and that he survived the holocaust >.>

Your right, but newspapers have to make money as well as news sources and this shit sells. Look how far we streched this topic...... and even manged to have 90 million anti american rants over it fromr our resident 16 year old foreign culture experts.

I agree. I don't know what's more striking to me: that the media would do that or that that's what it might take to get a person's attention instead of the things he actually did and what he made of his life. Maybe being a highly respected professor or doing a heroic thing aren't enough anymore...

I'm not making light of what he might have experienced, but the term itself really doesn't hold a lot of concrete meaning despite the significance some people immediately want to attach to it. But like I said, I think that's largely (and sadly) the point.

-Tyrion

What's wrong with saying he's a holocaust survivor?

Edit: I take it everyone's seen this?

Isn't Tyrion's gf Desolate Ever After? Apologies if that's all wrong... I don't know where I got the idea from but it does make sense in my mind, for whatever reason.

Ummmn Tyrion's Black, so I would think not.

It's illegal in Europe to deny the holocaust. I think it's a good thing though, the holocaust is still a sensitive subject here. My very Grandfather didn't survive the holocaust, he was sent to a concentrationcamp and broke his neck from a fall out of the guard tower. My other Granddad hid an entire jewish family in his basement for years. He and my Grandmother were even imprisoned for that, even though they gave them food and everything. We could have known cuz we heard people talking when we were playing in the kitchen back then.

Wierd now why did I think that?

Possibly because Tyrion told Ken that DEA was his girlfriend.

Nevermind. This thread has gotten ridiculous, as any thread of this nature is bound to. Back to studying for finals (and trying to find a job and an apartment and panicking) for me.

I am?? *Looks at his hands and arms, then looks back at the screen again...* No, I'm not black. ... Yes, Rio, that is who my girlfriend is. Why that's become relevant to this topic is a bit of a mystery to me.

I wouldn't have said anything different in my original post no matter who I was dating. Being concerned is not the same as being paranoid. Those are my concerns as much as hers, and anyone who actually cares about another person is going to be concerned for their safety. ... It's really not very different from hearing about several apartment fires in the area during the last two weeks or so. By the fourth one or so, you're thinking "jeez" and you go check your smoke detector to make sure the battery is working. It's not like I went out and bought a self-inflatable fire escape to launch from the bedroom window if there's a fire here some night (do they even make those?).

Anyone who gets run over at a crosswalk by a judge who's speeding and not paying attention to driving (and never even asked if she was ok), spends that afternoon in the hospital, and gets up the next morning to go to class as usual can't be very paranoid. She's "completely off her rocker" though, just ask Kayla.

Again, none of this is really relevant...

-Tyrion

My mistake. I know there was a semi-regular around here who is Black and for some reason I thought it was you. I also didn't pay much attention to the DEA business as I really don't like how a certain few around here think they have the obligation to play Thought Police.

DEA has a boyfriend?? Wtf? Whatever. Guns are fucked up, and I back up Zad... Also, we do have lots of violence here, but few deaths. However, if people were able to get guns easily we'd be having gang wars between the commies and the fascists. And the hippies would be caught in the middle. But the Coms and the Fascs would be really violent...

And she's hot. And you're jealous. You know all of you would kill a few negros to get a piece of that ass.

Don't play.