VinnieVincentInvaded wrote:
Mintrude wrote:
Is it really as bad as people say?
No way. Clean up the production, give Jaymz singing lessons and reduce the song lengths a bit and we're talking a solid 20-25% raise in overall score. I mean, it would still kind of suck, but there are some truly great and memorable parts on there that prevent it from being the worst thing ever created or whatever. "And the unnamed feeling...that cooooomes alive..." - fucking great chorus for one and all of Sweet Amber is pretty damn solid overall too...there are other examples as well.
Sorry, but I've said it before and I'll say it again: Judging an album based on what it "could have been" is a complete load of shit. The album is what it is, flaws and all. ... If you want to talk about how it might have been better or how the band could build from it to make something new that's better, that's one thing. But that wasn't the original question.
For the record, I do think the song lengths were one of the most obvious drawbacks to the album. However, it is also those very song lengths that destroy a certain kind of raw, impromptu merit the album
could have had were it conceived differently. No, don't just say, "the songs could have been shorter and it would have helped," because this record was very calculated on their parts, and for that, the album crashes and burns even more horribly.
As bad as everyone says it is? Well not everyone agrees, so I guess the answer is "no". ...but it's still pretty fucking bad.
-Tyrion