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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:31 am 
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isn't it wankery too, to call such ppl less intelligent just becuase they have painting skills? Imo, it's just as much wankery to let a retard paint a picture with his cock and then claim it's the best abstract and clever art there ever was "uh, this really sais something about sociaty!"


But in a way,it would say something about society. That being that people will say any old crap is the best thing ever to avoid looking stupid.


isn't it the other way around? Ppl would say that it's better than the old crap to avoid looking stupid, to give the impression that they understand art and have a huge brain capacity that can deal with the abstract.

btw.. i like old "crap". It's less pretentious, and despite being more realistic it usually isn't as real as photo for good reasons. The real old crap has a rather distorted picture of reality when it comes sociaty in general, but pictures of nature on the other hand is more alive than a photo, and the nature painting is about expressing the beauty of nature or how raw it can be.


i think he meant 'old crap' as anything that is not of quality. Not something that was made a long time ago.


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isn't it wankery too, to call such ppl less intelligent just becuase they have painting skills? Imo, it's just as much wankery to let a retard paint a picture with his cock and then claim it's the best abstract and clever art there ever was "uh, this really sais something about sociaty!"


But in a way,it would say something about society. That being that people will say any old crap is the best thing ever to avoid looking stupid.


isn't it the other way around? Ppl would say that it's better than the old crap to avoid looking stupid, to give the impression that they understand art and have a huge brain capacity that can deal with the abstract.

btw.. i like old "crap". It's less pretentious, and despite being more realistic it usually isn't as real as photo for good reasons. The real old crap has a rather distorted picture of reality when it comes sociaty in general, but pictures of nature on the other hand is more alive than a photo, and the nature painting is about expressing the beauty of nature or how raw it can be.


i think he meant 'old crap' as anything that is not of quality. Not something that was made a long time ago.


hmm.. perhaps.. i though he meant crap, like "realistic" old paintings from the 19th century... but i'll let him answer that himself :wink:


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hmm.. perhaps.. i though he meant crap, like "realistic" old paintings from the 19th century... but i'll let him answer that himself


Yep, I did mean anything that's not of quality, not something made along time ago.


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Yes, that's a mannerism I can see being confusing to non-first language English speakers.


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jackson pollock is bollocks.


And here I must stop you. It's all in the way that you look at it - imagine the paint going onto the canvas in layers, building up to a finished piece rather than trying to take it all in at once. You may not understand it, but that doesn't mean you can't appreciate it.

Music is different, since you have to give more of yourself to it generally, but much of the arty music I like isn;t Metal, and much of the reason I like, say, Napalm Death is it's blunt heaviness. Not to say the two can't intertwine, but Metal does brutal better than artsy. And the opposite is true for non-metal.

ah, I dunno, people are making picture with all the mathematical stuff that Pollock has with Adobe acrobat, I think...

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isn't it wankery too, to call such ppl less intelligent just becuase they have painting skills? Imo, it's just as much wankery to let a retard paint a picture with his cock and then claim it's the best abstract and clever art there ever was "uh, this really sais something about sociaty!"



You have perfectly described Nirvana's music with this statement.


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isn't it wankery too, to call such ppl less intelligent just becuase they have painting skills? Imo, it's just as much wankery to let a retard paint a picture with his cock and then claim it's the best abstract and clever art there ever was "uh, this really sais something about sociaty!"



You have perfectly described Nirvana's music with this statement.


+1

It's that whole "If you get enough people to believe something is worthwhile (cricket, SUVs, hip hop, Jesus) it becomes a fact; contrary to the evidence.


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Just thinking today about how Shawn Crahan from Slipknot has a tendency to spout off a load of bollocks.


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Just thinking today about how Shawn Crahan from Slipknot has a tendency to spout off a load of bollocks.

I was just thinking the other night about how he once said that, with their stage show, Slipknot were "basically, slowly killing [themselves]."

Yeah, I wish I got paid money to fanny about in a boiler suit and mask for an hour and occasionally hit a big drum with something. Then I'd be, liek, a musician. :lame:


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I was just thinking the other night about how he once said that, with their stage show, Slipknot were "basically, slowly killing [themselves]."

Yeah, I wish I got paid money to fanny about in a boiler suit and mask for an hour and occasionally hit a big drum with something. Then I'd be, liek, a musician.


I can't believe I used to think that ass was cool.


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It was like a ripoff of that guy who showed a urinal as art some time ago. Which also wasn't art and was very stupid.

Did you mean Duchamp's Fountain? That's called Dadaism, and it's far more awesome than the state of Turkey.
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Sunn O))) leads directly back to dadaism (via classical minimalism, musical neo-dadaism and dadaism in the artistic sense before that).



Hey I've just seen this. No, that isn't art so you needn't classify it. It's A URINAL which you piss in but since you probably have a vagina you haven't seen one before.


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Kathaarian wrote:
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It was like a ripoff of that guy who showed a urinal as art some time ago. Which also wasn't art and was very stupid.

Did you mean Duchamp's Fountain? That's called Dadaism, and it's far more awesome than the state of Turkey.
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Sunn O))) leads directly back to dadaism (via classical minimalism, musical neo-dadaism and dadaism in the artistic sense before that).



Hey I've just seen this. No, that isn't art so you needn't classify it. It's A URINAL which you piss in but since you probably have a vagina you haven't seen one before.
Dude, that post is more than a month and a half old. I don't even think Misha has posted in a few weeks...


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Dylan@Metalreviews wrote:
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It was like a ripoff of that guy who showed a urinal as art some time ago. Which also wasn't art and was very stupid.

Did you mean Duchamp's Fountain? That's called Dadaism, and it's far more awesome than the state of Turkey.
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Sunn O))) leads directly back to dadaism (via classical minimalism, musical neo-dadaism and dadaism in the artistic sense before that).



Hey I've just seen this. No, that isn't art so you needn't classify it. It's A URINAL which you piss in but since you probably have a vagina you haven't seen one before.
Dude, that post is more than a month and a half old. I don't even think Misha has posted in a few weeks...

Still, Kathy scored a SICKBURN :dio:


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I love how 8 weeks later the conversation picks up exactly where it left off.


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Ah the magic of internet forums :wub:

Personally any fans who are ultra defensive about bands they like and take you not liking them personally kinda annoy me.


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Personally any fans who are ultra defensive about bands they like and take you not liking them personally kinda annoy me.

wrong thread noodles


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cant stand kerry king...he talks to much


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Yep. He's always seemed like a fucking redneck to me for whatever reason.And he can't write a solo to save his life. If I hear woooooooooowwiddlywiddlywiddlywaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwww one more time I will puncture both my eardrums.


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Charlie Benante from Anthrax is working his way up the douchebag ladder.


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