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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:14 pm 
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America is fucked up.


Switzerland is fucked up. Didn't it take you until the 1970s to give women the vote?


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
America is fucked up.


Switzerland is fucked up. Didn't it take you until the 1970s to give women the vote?


True. But that's simply because everything political here happens so slowly, I expect the decision to give women the vote was made centuries before [/sarcasm]

No, it is true that in many aspects, Switzerland is also very messed up. But we're not as bad as the US.

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I think the main problem with the US is the 2 party system =X


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I think the main problem with the US is the 2 party system =X


(+1)
it's defently hard to get a clear political represention of the ppl living in a country with such system, i think.
It would be better to divide the two parties into smaller parties, some for normal ppl and some for the lunatics only few care about. Then you know exactly what you vote for.
btw, presidential election campaign is some of the most disgusting ever... bah... "Yeah!!! look at me, i caught the football thrown by my son. I'm just a normal family guy like you.. vote for meee!" - said with a big fake white hollywood grin


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I think the main problem with the US is the 2 party system =X


Well, if that were the case, then our (Canada's) two-and-a-half party system wouldn't be a whole lot better. I think it mostly comes down to culture.


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I think it comes down to party differences. In Australia, the two major parties are too similar for me to be comfortable voting for them, so I vote for a smaller, albeit influential party. Basically there is a right-wing party and a slightly less right wing party, and everyone votes for the lesser evil because they are too afraid to "trow their vote away". I say voting for someone you don't like is trowing your vote away, and with the second preference vote in Australia it is quite possible to double your vote.

The election is coming up soon, and I'm not quite sure if the slightly less right-wing party will be getting my second-preference vote. It has come down to me being overly cautious about my second preference too. I'm scared of what is going to happen this election.


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I think it comes down to party differences. In Australia, the two major parties are too similar for me to be comfortable voting for them, so I vote for a smaller, albeit influential party. Basically there is a right-wing party and a slightly less right wing party, and everyone votes for the lesser evil because they are too afraid to "trow their vote away". I say voting for someone you don't like is trowing your vote away, and with the second preference vote in Australia it is quite possible to double your vote.

The election is coming up soon, and I'm not quite sure if the slightly less right-wing party will be getting my second-preference vote. It has come down to me being overly cautious about my second preference too. I'm scared of what is going to happen this election.


Voting's compulsory in Australia isn't it?


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Sasheron wrote:
Basically there is a right-wing party and a slightly less right wing party, and everyone votes for the lesser evil because they are too afraid to "trow their vote away". I say voting for someone you don't like is trowing your vote away, and with the second preference vote in Australia it is quite possible to double your vote.
That reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a few days ago. "Why the hell does anyone want to choose the lesser of two evils?"

Good for a laugh or two.


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Mintrude wrote:
Sasheron wrote:
I think it comes down to party differences. In Australia, the two major parties are too similar for me to be comfortable voting for them, so I vote for a smaller, albeit influential party. Basically there is a right-wing party and a slightly less right wing party, and everyone votes for the lesser evil because they are too afraid to "trow their vote away". I say voting for someone you don't like is trowing your vote away, and with the second preference vote in Australia it is quite possible to double your vote.

The election is coming up soon, and I'm not quite sure if the slightly less right-wing party will be getting my second-preference vote. It has come down to me being overly cautious about my second preference too. I'm scared of what is going to happen this election.


Voting's compulsory in Australia isn't it?


Yeah it is, at least that's what I heard from my uncle who lives there.


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The problem with American politics is it costs millions of dollars to even be able to run for office, so it's automatically geared towards rich out-of-touch fuckwits. Being bred rich they don't have to struggle for anything and therefore don't know the strife of the average American worker trying desperately to make ends meet. Most of the so-called "issues" our politicians are always prattling on about, the common man doesn't give a shit about.


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Voting's compulsory in Australia isn't it?


I'd still vote if it wasn't. It just happens that people here usually don't give a flying fuck about politics or anything else, and when their living conditions and rights are compromised as a result they whine. This is the laid back country supposedly. Knowledge of politics and laid back don't mix.


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Voting isn't exactly compulsory over here. My parents have not voted in their lives cos they just don't enjoy politics, and they don't give a damn who's your state/district/county assemblymen cos most of them are just shite in doing what they promised.

Which brings me to a dilemma. I love love my country a lot, but even at an age where Im allowed to vote, I've yet to register myself as a voter. Plain lazy? Big yes. But I dont like politics as well, which is another reason.


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You should always vote. I'm not a huge fan of politics myself, in fact I think all politicians are scum, be we as the plebes have to do whatever we can to send a message.


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Eternal Idol wrote:
You should always vote. I'm not a huge fan of politics myself, in fact I think all politicians are scum, be we as the plebes have to do whatever we can to send a message.

agreed


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